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Dear Brothers in Islam
This is to announce that January 1998 marks the end of ONE YEAR since Mirza Tahir Ahmad renewed his challenge of Mubahila in January 1997. This challenge was addressed to all 'ENEMIES of AHMADIYYAT'. Since I consider myself to be the biggest enemy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, on behalf of the entire Muslim Ummah and from the platform of ANTI-AHMADIYYA MOVEMENT, I ACCEPTED THIS CHALLENGE. I requested an audience with Mirza Tahir Ahmad, at his Headquarter and on his convenient time to have a face to face Mubahila as well.
However initial response of Qadianis was to label me a coward who is trying to run away from this challenge by asking to meet Mirza Tahir! When I categorically stated my acceptance of this challenge, then they attempted to disqualify me. Finally when they realised that they can't dissuade me, i started recieving intimidating posts, informing me of impending doom. If I am away on vacation, they would frantically write to me hoping that I have met my fate. But it was not their fault. I feel pity for them, for they blindly trust the man, Mirza.
What Qadianis/Ahmadis never realise that this repeated Mubahila challenge is being given to boost the falling morale of the Qadiani creed. Of course there were some covert planning as well to destabilise Pakistan and 'create' Sectarian clashes, so that Mirza Tahir can attribute it to the success of Mubahila. Which I am sure he is doing in his Friday Sermons. AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SO STUPID THAT THEY EVEN BELIEVE HIM. Question is: Did any of those who died in pakistan accept the challenge.
AMAZINGLY, one person who openly and repeatedly accepted the challenge, i.e. MYSELF, by the Grace of Allah, is alive and well. This proves that Mirza Tahir has been defeated in this challenge of Mubahila. Let his followers now believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was a LIAR. May Allah open their eyes and bring them back to the fold of Islam. Ameen.
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah.
Rashid
Dear Mr. Hashim Ahmed
Thankyou for your last few entries. Please note that this guestbook is not a forum for debate. You are welcome to enter your comments and views regarding the Anti Ahmadiyya Web Page. If someone does not answer your questions, it does not in anyway mean that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad can be declared truthful by default. This just shows how illogical and immature is your approach to the whole issue.
In reply to my proofs from Ahmadi sources that Mirza Ghulam had died of Cholera, bathing in his own faeces, rather than showing me proof to the contrary, the only thing you can come up with is some biography written by a hired writer by the name of Ian Anderson. Are you trying to tell the readers that the biography written by this man is more authentic than the written by Mirza's son, Mirza Basheer ahmad and Mirza's Father-in-Law, Mir Naser Nawaab? Are you telling us that these early so-called companions of Mirza Ghulam were liars?
You have mentioned that you consider that you consider Mirza Saheb as a Imam Mahdi. Amazing indeed!! Mirza Ghulam himself thought that he is not the same Imam Mahdi that has been predicted in the Hadith of Holy Prophet SAAW. Read these quotes:
"I do not claim that I am that Mahdi who is according to (words of Hadith) 'from the son of Fatima and from my progeny' etc." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya V, Roohani Khazain vol.21 p.356)
"We admit this that several Mahdis may have come before and possibly will come in future as well and probably someone by the name of Imam Muhammad may also appear." (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.379)I think it is important that you should go and read the books of Mirza ghulam again and make sure what you believe in. And untill you have done that, please stop decieving Muslims. Moreover, please don't use this guestbook as a debating platform.
Thankyou
Wassalam
Rashid
But we are the Ummah of the Holy Prophet of Allah, Muhammad (SAW), and we should avoid resorting to the use of the language used by Ghulam Ahmad and his Khalifas. Allahu Su'bahanahu Wa-Ta'ala will decide who are the "children of prostitutes", and He will give the punishment that befits such utterances.
habib - 146.225.66.151 - Mozilla/3.01Gold - <habib_mustafa@hotmai>
- Thursday, July 09, 1998 at 19:49:50 (EDT)
ghulam printed as ghalib in previous message by mistake.
habib - 146.225.66.151 - Mozilla/3.01Gold - <habib_mustafa@hotmai>
- Thursday, July 09, 1998 at 19:42:45 (EDT)
Dear Readers| Ahmadis have been boasting of their examplery morals. Visit this site and hear for yourself: ://.nl-marketing.com/netlink/rashid/abuse/abuse1.html Those who are sensitive to hearing any abuses being hurled, should avoid listening to this conversation. Wassalam Rashid
Dr. Rashid - 146.225.66.151 - Mozilla/3.01Gold - <rasyed@emirates.net.>
UAE - Thursday, July 09, 1998 at 19:10:07 (EDT)
Assalaamu Alaykum Brother Rashid, I didn't mean to undermine your efforts in exposing the fraud of Mirza Ghalib, which have been spectacular. The number of hours that you may have spent in compiling so much of material (85 books in 3 languages, in addition to the hundreds under the banner of the Qadiani Khilafat, which hide the true nature of Mirza Ghalib's renditions of his claims, and package his comedy of errors into a religion with perfection) is unthinkable. I understand your concern at the way in which so many people are being mislead, and the manner in which they revere a person like Ghulam Ahmad. You are right that the new generations of Ahmadis don't know a bit about the person of Ghulam Ahmad, and what his actual words where. I also find it alarming that they are growing in number in the USA and Canada, amoung immigrants from the Indian Subcontinent, who were distanced from Islam for generations, and are now taking in whatever the Qadianis are telling them. Your awareness campaign will certainly save many who have not been deceived by these people. No person who has been practising Islam with piety and faith in Allah, with the knowledge of the Qur'an and the Sunnah in him/her would fall for it. It is our fault that we have distanced ourselves from Islam, giving scope for the growth of such weeds amoungst us. We cannot be absolved of a share in the sins committed by the Ahmadis in accepting Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet/Messiah of Allah. May Allah forgive us and our forefathers for living in spiritual conditions that proved conducive for Shaitan to succeed in his tricks. All I am saying is that we should not lose our patience, and continue to deliver the message of Allah. It is He who would deal with those who have rebelled against Him, and we donot have to feel frustrated about it, but only the guilt that we (as an Ummah) were responsible for it. I am just imagining how a third/fourth generation Ahmadi would read this page. In all probability, he would just venture into it, and turn away due to his reverence for Ghulam Ahmad, screaming "lies", because what's said in these pages were not told to him by his Qadiani proselytizers. But he might have stuck on to read more, and gradually accepted the truth, if the presentation had been more polite. But all said and done, you have done a great job, and may Allah bear fruits to your efforts. Ameen. Wa-salaam.
Habib - 208.237.97.106 - Mozilla/4.05 - <habib_mustafa@hotmai>
USA - Thursday, July 09, 1998 at 17:47:18 (EDT)
Dear Brother Habib Salaam Thankyou for your comments which are highly appreciated. I am sure that what you are saying is true but for the last 100 years our ulema had adopted the same strategy which you have alluded to and we have seen that movement has kept growing and the cloak of holiness around the person had kept on growing stronger and stronger with the result that today the thrid/fourth generation of Qadianis revere Mirza Ghulam in a similar manner as the Muslims do for Holy Prophet Muhmmad SAAW, and consider their messiah as a prophet in his own right, second advent of Holy Prophet Muhmmad who is better than the first one| There is much more, but this is not the place. Read the articles on kalima in Ahmadiyyat and you will discover yourself. Someone has to clean the gutter, and of course what comes out of it is not very pleasant for anyone. It is the need of the hour that Mirza Ghulam should be exposed for what he is. I am just quoting from the books writtten by Mirza himself, trying to tell these new generations what has been hidden from their eyes, for they have access to the propaganda literature only, they do not know urdu or arabic or persian to read the books themselves. Please help us in making muslims aware of this fraud in the name of islam. Wassalam Rashid
Dr. Rashid - 194.170.168.13 - Mozilla/4.04 - <rasyed@emirates.net.>
UAE - Wednesday, July 08, 1998 at 17:39:37 (EDT)
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saback - 207.79.35.32 - Mozilla/3.0 - <blatantruth@hotmail.>
usa - Wednesday, July 08, 1998 at 02:57:42 (EDT)
Assalaamu-alaykum, Dr. Rashid, You have done a good work in exposing the fraud of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. But you have done so in a very impolite manner. In the process, you may be further distancing the Ahmadis from the truth. It would have been better if you had presented the truth as the truth, in a much more mellowed manner, instead of resorting to the character-assasination of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. It think it is absolutely irrelevant whether Mirza Ghulam Ahmed died in a toilet or not. See how piqued Hashim Ahmed is by your mentioning it. The chances that he would realize the truth become lesser when you say such things, especially in such a crude manner. But I should commend you for accepting the challenge of Mirza Tahir Ahmed. And you have rightly pointed out that the people who the Qadianis claim died due to the wrath of Allah were in no way the people who accepted the same challange. habib_mustafa@hotmail.com
Habib Mustafa - 146.225.66.151 - Mozilla/3.01Gold - <habib_mustafa@hotmai>
- Tuesday, July 07, 1998 at 20:48:06 (EDT)
ASSALAM O ALAIKUM. EED MELAD AL NABI MUBARAK. Wassalm
POET - 152.163.206.236 - Mozilla/2.0 - <poet@poetry.com>
INT - Monday, July 06, 1998 at 21:06:19 (EDT)
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USA - Saturday, June 13, 1998 at 23:32:42 (EDT)
As salam-u-alaikum: We seek refuge in Allah in order to be saved from the accursed devil. O'Allah we seek refuge in you from the test of the dajjal. In the Name of Allah, the Most, Gracious, Most Merciful. The Islamic Religious Center is an sunni muslim non-profit organization in Cleveland Ohio United States. WE think that your site is a blessings to muslims all over the world. You may send tax-exempt contributions to us at Islamic Religious Center, P.O. Box 20578, Cleveland Ohio 44120-0578 United States. NO AMOUNT IS TOO SMALL| May the Peace and Blessings of Allah and His Mercy be you.
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USA - Saturday, June 13, 1998 at 23:32:35 (EDT)
As salam-u-alaikum: We seek refuge in Allah in order to be saved from the accursed devil. O'Allah we seek refuge in you from the test of the dajjal. In the Name of Allah, the Most, Gracious, Most Merciful. The Islamic Religious Center is an sunni muslim non-profit organization in Cleveland Ohio United States. WE think that your site is a blessings to muslims all over the world. You may send tax-exempt contributions to us at Islamic Religious Center, P.O. Box 20578, Cleveland Ohio 44120-0578 United States. NO AMOUNT IS TOO SMALL| May the Peace and Blessings of Allah and His Mercy be you.
Islamic Center - 152.163.195.240 - Mozilla/2.0 - <jsl1419@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, June 13, 1998 at 23:30:41 (EDT)
Mr. Rashid Ali. You say to me that I am calling the sons and companions of the imam mahdi lyers. Well, you are quite obviously not very good at reading between lines. Yes, there have been many biographies written by these people, most of which i have read but in NONE of them does it say directly or indirectly that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam died in the toilet bathing in his own fecies. In ALL of them it clearly states that he died peacefully without suffering in his sleep. I therefor ask you to read the books a bit more carefully. You also said that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never claimed to be Imam Mahdi and he said that in Braheen e Ahmadiyah. Well, before you start spreading these lyes, at least do some carefull research. Braheen e Ahmadiyah was written BEFORE Ahmadiyat even came into being and its topic is nothing to do with mahdi, messiah etc. Braheen e ahmadiya is about Islam as aside to other religions. In this book he gives evidence to prove that islam is the true religion. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a few years later put his claim forward that he is the Imam Mahdi I have to go now i will write in a few minutes
Hashim Ahmed - 203.62.181.55, - Mozilla/4.05 - <rather not say>
- Friday, June 12, 1998 at 12:29:49 (EDT)
Excellent page.Very cool. Highly informative. Yes Mirza Ghulam ahmed Qadiani died in toilet with in his mouth.
Rambler - 203.62.181.55, - Mozilla/4.05 - <rambler@yahoomail.co>
coc - Friday, June 12, 1998 at 12:09:50 (EDT)
May Allah succeed you in your work
Vaquas - 209.161.226.149 - Mozilla/4.05 - <svaquas@iname.com>
Can - Wednesday, June 10, 1998 at 21:42:29 (EDT)
Dear Rashid Ali, Your coments stating that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never said he was the Imam Mahdi prophecised in hadith are i am afraid completely false. He claimed that he was the promised messiah and mahdi. Yes, there have been other reformers and will continue to be reformers until the day of judgement but there will only be one Imam mahdi. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad said he was the Imam Mahdi. Also, you said that his own son declared that he died in his own fecies. I am afraid you either have made this up or someone else has told you a lie. Also, it says nothing of the sort in Braheen e Ahmadiyah. Braheen e Ahmadiyah isn't even about the claims of the promised messiah. That book was written by him before he put this claim forward. Braheen e ahmadiyah is justifying with proof that Islam is the true religion. Also, giving indications, that other religions are are false. NO i am therefor not saying that the son of the imam mahdi is a lyer. i am calling YOU a lyer. A brainwashed lyer. The biography written by the companions of the imam mahdi does not state once, that he died in his own fecies. Another lie by you. Braheen e Ahmadiya was written before he claimed to be the Mahdi. Therefor it could not posibly have contained the crieteria you mentioned. Another lie by you. Also, Ian Adamson was not a hired writer. He found all the information himself looking through libraries etc. My only advice for you at the moment is to read the books of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad without taking LSD first. Then, read Invitatiopn to Ahmadiyat, A man of God and Ahmad the guided one. Again without taking LSD first.
Hashim Ahmed - 137.150.220.23 - Mozilla/3.01 - <Rather not say>
- Tuesday, June 09, 1998 at 12:32:57 (EDT)
i still have had no replies to my two messages. By this it is quite obvious that nobody here has any replies. This quite clearly means that Ahmadiyat is victorious in this debate. Once you people are presented with basic facts, you cant do anything about it because you have no replies. Accept us as what we are, the truth. Or at least accept us as muslims.
Hashim Ahmed - 195.99.46.70 - Mozilla/2.0 - <rather not say>
- Sunday, June 07, 1998 at 07:00:18 (EDT)
still no replies if there are no replies by the end of the week end then i will win this debate by default and so will ahmadiyat
Hashim Ahmed - 206.96.90.133 - EmailSiphon - <rather not say>
- Friday, June 05, 1998 at 11:50:06 (EDT)
Another thing which you people say is that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam died in the toilet. Well, that really makes me laugh. Where the hell did you get that from? Which filthy lier or comedian i should say told you brainwashed people this. If you read Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalams biography which was written by a christian man called Iain Adamson ( not biased ) you will find out that he died a peacefull death in his sleep without one bit of suffering. So please, stop these lies. At the moment, we have more of a right to call ourselves muslims than you. Telling the truth which is something you find quite difficult, is one of the principal laws of Islam. Please reply to my last statement quickly. Or I will win this debate by default.
Hashim Ahmed - 195.99.46.119 - Mozilla/2.0 - <rather not say>
- Thursday, June 04, 1998 at 13:22:08 (EDT)