>
Rabwah, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 21:07:27 (EST)
Abdul Aziz: You lied again just like your master MIRZA KAZIB.You
made up the story again. There were no manholes at the time of MIRZA and
after,In Chiniot, the time you are talking about. Again you skipped the
MAIN event intentionaly. You did not give the detail of IBRATNAAK &
MISERABLE DEATH OF MIRZA KAZIB.WHY? do you feel ashamed or what. Tell me
how did MIRZA KAZIB DIED? Just In your own words. I wana see how much LIE
you can write or tell. Because this event is on the record. Everybody knows
THE WHOLE TRUTH (HOW DID MIRZA DIE). I Believe that you know the whole
story too. Unles you believe in "CROW IS WHITE" policy.
Qadiani Buster <UMTUL@shitty
Mirza.com>
Rabwah, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 21:00:04 (EST)
Abdul Aziz: You lied again just like your master MIRZA KAZIB. the
made up the story again. Also there were no manholes at the time of MIRZA
and after, the time you are talking about. Also you skipped the MAIN event
again. You did not give the detail of IBRATNAAK & MISERABLE DEATH OF
MIRZA KAZIB. do you feel ashamed or what. Tell me how did MIRZA KAZIB DIED?
In your own words. I wana see how much LIE you can write or tell. Because
this is on the record. Everybody knows THE WHOLE TRUTH. I Beliweve that
you know the whole story that how did MIRZA KAZIB DIED. Unles you believe
in "CROW IS WHITE" policy.
Qadiani Buster <UMTUL@shitty
Mirza.com>
Rabwah, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 20:55:59 (EST)
Dear Mr. so-called Qadini Buster: I am afraid I cannot enter into
a debate with you because you will not use logic. The only tool you have
is your indecent language. However, I shall answer your question. I shall
love to die like my master Mirza Ghula Ahmad (AS). When he died Allah (SWA)
was pleased with him and he was pleased with Allah. To his death applies
the last part of sura 'Al-Fajr'. Please pray that I die the same death.
However, I shall warn you against using the foul language you have been
using against Mirza Sahib. A few years ago a mullah from Chiniot used to
use your language. Allah's wrath seized him. He fell in a manhole in the
sewage system. He died tasting the shit of the whole city in his mouth.
In fact his whole digestive and breathing system was full of shit. Remember
sir, Allah's punishment is very swift and severe. WassalaamVh
Abdul Aziz <n.r>
Ca USA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 20:32:36 (EST)
So-Called ALI The Murtadd: You like to write long letters with all
the MIRZAI nonsense, looks like that you get paid well by MIRZA TAHIR (The
Chief Murtadd). Why dont you write a details about "MIRZA KAZIB'S " DISGRACEFUL,
SHAMEFUL, DREADFUL, IBRATNAAK DEATH. I MEAN When the SHIT came out of his
mouth. I Just like to hear the whole story from your mouth. ALI (MURTADD)
I have a question for you. Would you like to die the same way MIRZA MURTADD
DIED? I mean Just a little SHIT in your mouth? What the heck. at least
It will be an honor for you just like MIRZA MURTADD> Please Say YES> Dont
break my Heart. ALI (MURTADD) I have another question. I believe you are
a MURTADEEN'S SCHOLAR and you must have answer for this. The question is:
That When MIRZA KAZIB was dying with SHIT in his mouth, how come the "TICHI
TICHI" did not come to save him(The MIRZA) ? Do you thing it was too much
bad smell of MIRZA'S SHIT that "TICHI TICHI" could not stand or HE (TICHI
TICHI) was busy in doing something else. I believe you must have an answer
for this Simple question. Just dont tell Chief Murtadd (Mirza Tahir) that
you are gona answer this question.
Qadiani Buster <Umtul@ShittyMirza.com>
Rabwah/Halifax, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 20:30:22 (EST)
So-Called ALI The Murtadd: You like to write long letters with all
the MIRZAI nonsense, looks like that you get paid well by MIRZA TAHIR (The
Chief Murtadd). Why dont you write a details about "MIRZA KAZIB'S " DISGRACEFUL,
SHAMEFUL, DREADFUL, IBRATNAAK DEATH. I MEAN When the SHIT came out of his
mouth. I Just like to hear the whole story from your mouth. ALI (MURTADD)
I have a question for you. Would you like to die the way MIRZA MURTADD
DIED? I mean Just a little SHIT in your mouth? at least It will be just
like MIRZA MURTADD> Please Say YES> Dont break my Heart. ALI (MURTADD)
I have another question. I believe you are a MURTADEEN'S SCHOLAR and you
must have answer for this. The question is: That When MIRZA KAZIB was dying
with SHIT in his mouth, how come the "TICHI TICHI" did not come to save
him(The MIRZA) ? Do you thing it was too much bad smell of MIRZA'S SHIT
thatt "TICHI TICHI" did not come close to his body or HE (TICHI TICHI)
was busy in doing something else. I believe you must have an answer for
this Simple question. Just dont tell Chief Murtadd (Mirza Tahir) that you
are gona answer this question.
Qadiani Buster <Umtul@ShittyMirza.com>
Rabwah/Halifax, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 20:25:04 (EST)
Oh Disgraced Murtadd WARAICH: May CURSE OF ALLAH(SWT) be upon you
ALL THE TIME. Why You keep on comparing a KAZIB, LIAR and MURTADD to our
Lovely Prophet ISA and His Respected Mother MARYAM. Just Look at MIRZA'S
Disgraceful and IBRATNAAK DEATH, (Just think for a moment SHIT IN YOUR
MOUTH) can you imagine that for a second. Do You wana die the same way
as MIRZA KAZIB DIED? If you want I will pray to ALLAH (SWT) that you (Waraich)
should die the same way as MIRZA KAZIB DIED i mean just a little SHIT in
your mouth. is that OK for you Waraich KAKA? Tell me I am eagerly waiting
to hear from you. Give me your option Baby.
Qadiani Buster <UMTUL@shitty
Mirza.com>
Rabwah, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 19:51:28 (EST)
Oh Disgraced Murtadd WARAICH: May CURSE OF ALLAH(SWT) be upon you
ALL THE TIME. Why You keep on comparing a KAZIB, LIAR and MURTADD to our
Lovely Prophet ISA and His Respected Mother MARYAM. Just Look at MIRZA'S
Disgraceful and IBRATNAAK DEATH, (Just think for a moment SHIT IN YOUR
MOUTH) can you imagine that for a second. Do You wana die the same way
as MIRZA KAZIB DIED? If you want I will pray to ALLAH (SWT) that you (Waraich)
should die the same way as MIRZA KAZIB DIED i mean just a little SHIT in
your mouth. is that OK for you Waraich KAKA? Tell me I am eagerly waiting
to hear from you. Give me your option Baby.
Qadiani Buster <UMTUL@shitty
Mirza.com>
Rabwah, PK - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 19:50:21 (EST)
Mr. Ali: another point that will might be helpfull to understand
for the questioner. Questioner said that mirza sahib relates that "Allah
expred in me his manliness" Now see the Quranic verse Al-Tahrim 13 Where
Allah said " We breathed into her (Maryam) Or Spirit and She fulfilled
the prophecy" Now Ask this Man to TELL you WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? Any person
can raise his evil thinking as these people are doing agasint HAzzrat Mirza
Sahib that ALLAH HAD EXPRESSED HIS MANLINESS INTO MARY (nouzubillah) Now,
IF Allah CAN & DID expressed his manliness according to questioner
to WOMAN then why he cannot this to MAN. Now if this Questioner Does Not
believe that Allah expressed his manliness into Mary THEN he has to admit
that Allah did not expressed his manliness into Hazzrat Mirza Sahib. The
thing that we need to understand here is that the word that is used most
common, In Quran & In Mirza Sahib's writtings Is "SPIRIT" And Spirit
is not manliness (atlest from ahmadiyya point of view) NOw, I just like
to make some additional points, regaurding Spiritual Pregnency of HAzzrat
Mirza Sahib. And Maryami Attribute & Isvi Attribute. This can be understood
in this concept. Maryami Attribute means "Perfect tighteousness" ISVI Atrributes
are "PROPHET HOOD" The example of HAzzrat Mary given here because she was
a perfect lady who tookcare of her chastity. And When Hazzrat Mirza Sahib
said that he became Spiritually pregnent(Kisht-e-Noah 47). It need to understand,
Prophet Cannot be a prophet unless he is NOT righteous. Now first, to be
righteous Allah gave example of Hazzrat Maryam to Mirza Sahib. And then
TO become prophet, The example of Jesus was given. Now again the Question
rises, Why the example of Mary & her was given particularly. The thing
is who needed to come, A prophet who will be Law bearing, NO. A prophet
who will bring new faith, NO. It was wait of A Mesiha to whole world. And
which Mesiha, Same who was son of Mary. Definately, DEAD people CANNOT
raise & DO NOT RAISE, THUS it was an example in mataphorical amnners
that was given to Hazzrat Mirza Sahib.
A.. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 19:14:53 (EST)
This is for MURTAD ABDUL AZIZ from California: Abdul Aziz (Murtadd)
you talked about the HEAT but you did not talk about the actual stuff.
The Disgraceful and miserable death of MIRZA KAZIB. Do you remember when
he (Mirza) died with Shit in his mouth? I think you Murtadeens feel ashamed
to talk about that event. May be you feel disgusted when you think about
the SHIT in somebody's mouth especially when you worship some one like
(MIRZA MURTADD). Just imagine for a second the picture of MIRZA dying in
disgrace, with shit coming out of his (MIRZA'S) mouth, nobody wana pick
up his stinking body, only few "BHANGIS" helped to remove that stinking
body. Do you think those BHANGIS will be rewarded by ALLAH (SWT) for that
job well done (Removal of Mirza's Body). Or may be you just feel ashamed
and disgusted for talking about that event. I have a question for you ABDUL
AZIZ. How come the "TICHI TICHI" did not come to help MIRZA KAZIB. Was
he (TICHI TICHI ) busy in doing something else ? Please tell me I am anxiously
waiting to solve this puzzle. Abdul Aziz I have another Question. Do you
wana die the same way as MIRZA KAZIB DIED? I mean Just a little SHIT in
your mouth, dying in the Bathroom etc etc. But the only difference will
be that here you will die in a carpeted Bathroom and also your other Qadianis
will not be able to find BHANGIS, they might have to act like BHANGIS or
bring some bulldozer or a cranelift. and then they will burn your body
in incinerator. That's not much of a difference. Are YOU READY TO DIE LIKE
MIRZA KAZIB? SAY YES MY MAN ABDUL AZIZ. ALLAH (SWT) will definitle Grant
your wish. Insha Allah.
Qadiani Buster <ShittyMirza@Rabwah.Com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Thursday, November 20, 1997
at 19:09:06 (EST)
This is for MURTAD ABDUL AZIZ from California: Abdul Aziz (Murtadd)
you talked about the HEAT but you did not talk about the actual stuff.
The Disgraceful and miserable death of MIRZA KAZIB. Do you remember when
he (Mirza) died with Shit in his mouth? I think you Murtadeens feel ashamed
to talk about that event. May be you feel disgusted when you think about
the SHIT in somebody's mouth especially when you worship some one like
(MIRZA MURTADD). Just imagine for a second the picture of MIRZA dying in
disgrace, with shit coming out of his (MIRZA'S) mouth, nobody wana pick
up his stinking body, only few "BHANGIS" helped to remove that stinking
body. Do you think those BHANGIS will be rewarded by ALLAH (SWT) for that
job well done (Removal of Mirza's Body). Or may be you just feel ashamed
and disgusted for talking about that event. I have a question for you ABDUL
AZIZ. How come the "TICHI TICHI" did not come to help MIRZA KAZIB. Was
he (TICHI TICHI ) busy in doing something else ? Please tell me I am anxiously
waiting to solve this puzzle. Abdul Aziz I have another Question. Do you
wana die the same way as MIRZA KAZIB DIED? I mean Just a little SHIT in
your mouth, dying in the Bathroom etc etc. But the only dofference will
be that here you will die in a carpeted Bathroom and also your other Qadianis
will not be able to find BHANGIS, they might have to bring some bulldozer
or a cranelift. and then they will burn your body in incinerator. That's
not much of a difference. Are YOU READY TO DIE LIKE MIRZA KAZIB? SAY YES
MY MAN ABDUL AZIZ. ALLAH (SWT) will definitle Grant your wish. Insha Allah.
Qadiani Buster <ShittyMirza@Rabwah.Com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Thursday, November 20, 1997
at 19:07:05 (EST)
This is for MURTAD ABDUL AZIZ from California: Abdul Aziz (Murtadd)
you talked about the HEAT but you did not talk about the actual stuff.
The Disgraceful and miserable death of MIRZA KAZIB. Do you remember when
he (Mirza) died with Shit in his mouth? I think you Murtadeens feel ashamed
to talk about that event. May be you feel disgusted when you think about
the SHIT in somebody's mouth especially when you worship some one like
(MIRZA MURTADD). Just imagine for a second the picture of MIRZA dying in
disgrace, with shit coming out of his (MIRZA'S) mouth, nobody wana pick
up his stinking body, only few "BHANGIS" helped to remove that stinking
body. Do you think those BHANGIS will be rewarde by ALLAH (SWT) for that
job well done (Removal of Mirza's Body). Or may be you feel ashamed for
talking about that event. I have a question for you ABDUL AZIZ. How come
the "TICHI TICHI" did not come to help MIRZA KAZIB. Was he (TICHI TICHI
) busy in doing something else ? Please tell me I am anxiously waiting
to solve this puzzle.
Qadiani Buster <ShittyMirza@Rabwah.Com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Thursday, November 20, 1997
at 18:58:49 (EST)
Ahmadis take heat from non-Ahmadis. No doubt about that. We, Ahmadis,
do it for the sake of Allah. We pray that he will accept our sacrifices.
According to Quran, "Allah is Shakoor and Halim". Even if we are misled
He will still reward us because He knows our Niyyat (intention). But what
about non-Ahmadis? They are getting the heat from the whole world because
they are poor, illiterate, dishonest, corrupt, murderers, and weaklings.
What reward will they get from Allah(SWA) only He will decide , in this
world and on the day of judgement. Let us wait. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.r.>
Ca USA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 16:59:05 (EST)
Brother Fateh Sher: How are you Sir? Good morning I,m In Tornto
Nowadays. Brother: Your Question is very valid question. All & each
Ahamdi muslim Love to answer questions Like this. But only problem we face
is that 2nd party always try to escape here & there. Anyhow let see
how far you GO. There is a Hadieth of Bukhari where Holly prophet Mohammad
(saw) said "At the time when mother delivers baby, that & Each new
born is tuched by Satan. And when Satan tuches new born, he/she cries.
But Satan did not tuched Mary & son of Mary"(bukhari kitabul tafseer
vol.3 p69). Now before going further, I am sure Not in your mind (because
of lack of knoledge about this subject) But Many Ahamdi brothers might
be thinking what about other prophets especially holly prophet (saw) Did
Satan tuched them when they were born? The answer of this questin is given
by Alama Zumkhushri in (tafseer kishaf vol. 1 p302) He says "According
to this (above ) hadieth is that Satan wants & does astry every &
each new born. Except Mary & son of Mary. Because they both were pure.
Exactly every that child is include in it who has Mary & son of Mary's
attribute. Therefore, Hadieth of holly pophet clearly shows that Mary &
son of Mary are not only two humen. But TWO TYPES OF HUMEN. Thus those
who have Maryami & son of Maryami siftes are rightous (momen)&
prophets. And those are who were remembered by the toung of holly prophet
Mohamamd peace be upon him. Little more tafseer of these attributes is
written in Quran. Says" And Alalh holds forth as an example, for those
who believe, the wife of Pharaoh (Asya)when she said, My Lord ! build for
me a house with Thee in the Garden; and deliver me from Paraoh and his
work, and deliver me from the wrongdoing people".(Al-Tahrim 12) Second
verse says "And sets forth as an example Mary, the daughter of Imran, who
guarded her chastity- so We breathed into him of Our Spirit and she fulfilled
the prophecy conveyed to her in the words of her Lord contained in His
Books and she was one of the obedient".(Al-Tahrim 13) Mr. Fateh you need
to understand here something, and you got to use your brain and then you
make yourself for arguments. If you did not understand this subject but
you tried to write I,m sure people will laugh on you. Now Quran is comparing
these two righteous women with two unrighteous women of Noah And Lot. You
must understand that from these two verses point proves that there are
two types of righeous people. First, Asiya (wife of Pheroah) sift. Second,
Maryami sift. "(Asiya sift) Those who were under the pressure of non believers,
and to get rid of from them they prayed to Allah. and people of Maryami
sift are those who were righteous from the first day of their birth. Now
Mr. Fateh: The second type of humen are called "MARYAMi SIFT PEOPLE" (ahsanat
phurjaha) And then they raise from ( Maryami sift) to (phana phukhna phehi
minr-ruhena)sift of son of Mary. Because status of Maryami is truth, And
status of son of Mary is prophethood. Now this is very necessary for all
prophets to go through this procedure. Again if you are NOT understood:
First A prophet comes into the status of Maryam, meaning, from his birth
he will be righteous. And from THIS lavel he moves to status of son of
Mary (son of Mary not as person, but as attribute)And he becomes PROPHET.
And in these both lavels he is safe from tuching of Satan. Now come to
the point: I quoted you here, you said that Mirza sahib said "Allah expressed
in me his reproductive power of manliness" Mr. Fateh if you an extreme
ignorant,THEN I am NOT Guilty of this crime. From those verses of Quran
of Sura Al-Tahrim we understood that Hazzrat Maryam became pregnent after
an extereme righteousness. and the result of that prgnecy brought a birth
of The prophet "Jesus" (Isa). MR. Fateh Read this carefully: EXACTLY, THE
CONDITION OF RIGHTEOUS MAN IS THAT HE IS IN MARYAMI CONDITION (Spiritually
prgnent)AND AFTER THIS LAVEL WHEN ALLAH WANTS HIM TO RAISE MORE HIGHER
HE HAS TO CROSS THE SAME PROCEDURE (Spiritually prgnent & then Spiritually
his birth) THEN HE ACHIEVES THE STATUS OF son of Maryami Sift. When Mirza
sahib said that he became Spiritually Pregnent, it means he is in Maryami
condition And after the(spitual birth)He achieved a status of Prophethood
Like anyother prophet of Allah. In Quran Allah compares righteous men with
women. No doubt men Are Not women But to explain And in metaphrical manners.
And All that Hazzrat Mirza sahib used this Language, He has Already explained
inhis Book Kisht-e-Noah. Because he Knew people Like will never stop blamming.
Hazzrat Mirza sahib came only Hundred years ago. Prophet Mohammad acme
14 hundred years agoAnd still people have Not Stop Blamming him of different
accusations. We Ahamdi cannot expect from any non-Ahmadi to understand
this Language of Hazzrat Mirza sahib right Away. To understand this language
of Hazzrat Mirza Sahib You people need TAQWA. Secondlly, Most of the time
Non-Ahamdies take litteral meanings of any statements of any prophet. For
example, Non-Ahmdi believe that Mera'age was Litteral, In other words Prophet
Mohammad(saw) Awoke from his bed, opened his house's door, Made ready his
horse, sat on him, And flew to Haven. This is immature thinking brother.
It is Not true, EVEn Hadiethes ARE NOT agree with this belief. I promise
you I will prove you this in my next writting that Mer'age was not Litteral.
We Ahmdi believe it was Metaphorical. Because of you backgroung I could
understand that you people believe that because Mirza sahib said So. Thus
in Our Language the meanig of this word is THIS. Therefore, mirza sahib
is unable to prove thus he is Liar.simple! _______Now lets talk about Spiritual
Pregnency__________ Before going to this dicussion you need to understand
word "humul" I am sure to you it is simple prgnency. BUT NO Sir You are
wrong: I prove my point by giving you refrence from Quran itself. on this
place Allah use word Humul for himself (Wa Hamulna ma'aa Noah)".....And
of the posterity of those whome we carried in the Ark with Noah......"(Maryam
59) Read this one (LA TEHMIL ALAINA ISRUN KMA HAMULTAHU AALLULAZEENA MIN
QABLANA)" ....and our Lord, Lay not on us responsibility as thou didst
lay upon those before us..."(Al-Baqrah 287) Now Mr. Fateh It is very clear
that word Hamul is used here for "taking". Therefore it is not right to
just laugh and make joke on Hazzrat Mirza sahib's writtings. Try to understand
his writtings, please. Hazzrat Mirza sahib clearly said (ista'ara ke rung
mayn mughe hamala thraya gya)" As an assamble I was called pregnent" (Kusht-e-noah
47) "And from real or meanings are not taken, rather than it was Sift -e-Maryami
and from sift Maryami I was taken to Isvi sift"(Kushti-e-noah 45)
Ali <<>>
Halifax, - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 10:45:07 (EST)
My Dear Qadiani Supporters: I am glad you are taking all that heat
from these MUSLIMS all over the world. Just because of My Grandpa and me.
Actually it is not my fault . When I was a kid My GrandPa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani) used to tell me lots of bedtime stories about "TICHI TICHI". Once
I saw Grandpa walking in a very funny way. His SHALWAR (PANTS) was full
of blood. I asked Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) what happened. He said
that last night "TICHI TICHI" was too rough on me. Any how Granpa Said
that it was a test for me and I (Grandpa) Passed that test. Once Grandpa
told all his QADIANI Ummah that "TICHI TICHI" brought him this message
that anybody who die of CHOLERA is not a believer and is MURTADD and KAFIR.
But unfortunatly My Poor Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) not only suffered
from CHOLERA but died of CHOLERA TOO. and the attack of CHOLERA was so
severe that when my Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) died, the SHIT came
out of his mouth. His body was stinking in the bathroom for a few days.
Nobody volunteered to pickup my Grandpa's dead body. I still remember the
stink of Grandpa's dead body. and that stink has messed up my brains too.
Anyhow I still think that it was a blessing for me from my Grandpa (Mirza
Ghulam Qadiani). I dont know that why these MUSLIMS are making a big thing
out of my GRANDPA'S MISERABLE DEATH. Why dont they feel sorry for him.
At the end I would say that it was "TICHI TICHI" who gave the wrong information
to my Grandpa, IT was not his fault either. TICHI TICHI pulled a trick
on Grandpa. You see how simple was my Grandpa (MIRZA KAZIB). I am missing
my Grandpa too much. Other day I saw Grandpa in my dream. He was enjoying
his stay in hell. He has lots of his QADIANI UMMAH along with him. He asked
me to join him soon. Because he said that the business is booming there,
and he cant handle that by himself even with the help of my father and
Hakim noor-ud-din.
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <(none)>
Ontario, CANADA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 08:04:37 (EST)
My Dear Qadiani Supporters: I am glad you are taking all that heat
from these MUSLIMS all over the world. Just because of My Grandpa and me.
Actually it is not my fault . When I was a kid My GrandPa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani) used to tell me lots of bedtime stories about "TICHI TICHI". Once
I saw Grandpa walking in a very funny way. His SHALWAR (PANTS) was full
of blood. I asked Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) what happened. He said
that last night "TICHI TICHI" was too rough on me. Any how Granpa Said
that it was a test for me and I (Grandpa) Passed that test. Once Grandpa
told all his QADIANI Ummah that "TICHI TICHI" brought him this message
that anybody who die of CHOLERA is not a believer and is MURTADD and KAFIR.
But unfortunatly My Poor Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) not only suffered
from CHOLERA but died of CHOLERA TOO. and the attack of CHOLERA was so
severe that when my Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) died, the SHIT came
out of his mouth. His body was stinking in the bathroom for a few days.
Nobody volunteered to pickup my Grandpa's dead body. I still remember the
stink of Grandpa's dead body. and that stink has messed up my brains too.
Anyhow I still think that it was a blessing for me from my Grandpa (Mirza
Ghulam Qadiani). I dont know that why these MUSLIMS are making a big thing
out of my GRANDPA'S MISERABLE DEATH. Why dont they feel sorry for him.
At the end I would say that it was "TICHI TICHI" who gave the wrong information
to my Grandpa, IT was not his fault either. TICHI TICHI pulled a trick
on Grandpa. You see how simple was my Grandpa (MIRZA KAZIB). I am missing
my Grandpa too much. Other day I saw Grandpa in my dream. He was enjoying
his stay in hell. He has lots of his QADIANI UMMAH along with him. He asked
me to join him soon. Because he said that the business is booming there,
and he cant handle that by himself even with the help of my father and
Hakim noor-ud-din.
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <(none)>
Ontario, CANADA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 08:04:07 (EST)
My Dear Qadiani Supporters: I am glad you are taking all that heat
from these MUSLIMS all over the world. Just because of My Grandpa and me.
Actually it is not my fault . When I was a kid My GrandPa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani) used to tell me lots of bedtime stories about "TICHI TICHI". Onece
I saw Grandpa walking in a very funny way. His SHALWAR (PANTS) was full
of blood. I asked Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) what happened. He said
that last night "TICHI TICHI" was too rough on me. Any how Granpa Said
that it was a test for me and I (Grandpa) Passed that test. Once Grandpa
told all his QADIANI Ummah that "TICHI TICHI" brought him this message
that anybody who die of CHOLERA is not a believer and is MURTADD and KAFIR.
But unfortunatly My Poor Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) not only suffered
from CHOLERA but died of CHOLERA TOO. and the attack of CHOLERA was so
svere that when my Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) died, the SHIT came out
of his mouth. His body was stinking in the bathroom for a few days. Nobody
volunteered to pickup my Grandpa's dead body. I still remember the stink
of Grandpa's dead body. and that stink has messed up my brains too. Anyhow
I still think that it was a blessing for me from my Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani). I dont know that why these MUSLIMS are making a big thing out
of my GRANDPA'S MISERABLE DEATH. Why dont they feel sorry for him. At the
end I would say that it was "TICHI TICHI" who gave the wrong information
to my Grandpa, IT was not his fault either. TICHI TICHI pulled atrick on
Grandpa. You see how simpole was my Grandpa (MIRZA KAZIB).
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <(none)>
Ontario, CANADA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:57:47 (EST)
My Dear Qadiani Supporters: I am glad you are taking all that heat
from these MUSLIMS all over the world. Just because of My Grandpa and me.
Actually it is not my falt . When I was a kid My GrandPa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani) used to tell me lots of bedtime stories about "TICHI TICHI". Onece
I saw Grandpa walking in a very funny way. His SHALWAR (PANTS) was full
of blood. I asked Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) what happened. He said
that last night "TICHI TICHI" was too rough on me. Any how Granpa Said
that it was a test for me and I (Grandpa) Passed that test. Once Grandpa
told all his QADIANI Ummah that "TICHI TICHI" brought him this message
that anybody who die of CHOLERA is not a believer and is MURTADD and KAFIR.
But unfortunatly My Poor Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) not only suffered
from CHOLERA but died of CHOLERA TOO. and the attack of CHOLERA was so
svere that when my Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) died, the SHIT came out
of his mouth. His body was stinking in the bathroom for a few days. Nobody
volunteered to pickup my Grandpa's dead body. I still remember the stink
of Grandpa's dead body. and that stink has messed up my brains too. Anyhow
I still think that it was a blessing for me from my Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam
Qadiani). I dont know that why these MUSLIMS are making a big thing out
of my GRANDPA'S MISERABLE DEATH. Why dont they feel sorry for him. At the
end I would say that it was "TICHI TICHI" who gave the wrong information
to my Grandpa, IT was not his fault either. TICHI TICHI pulled atrick on
Grandpa. You see how simpole was my Grandpa (MIRZA KAZIB).
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <(none)>
Ontario, CANADA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:57:22 (EST)
My Dear Qadiani Supporters: I am glad you are taking all that heat
from all over the world. Just because of My Grandpa and me. Actually it
is not my falt . When I was a kid My GrandPa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) used
to tell me lots of bedtime stories about "TICHI TICHI". Onece I saw Grandpa
walking in a very funny way. His SHALWAR (PANTS) was full of blood. I asked
Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani) what happened. He said that last night "TICHI
TICHI" was too rough on me. Any how Granpa Said that it was a test for
me and I (Grandpa) Passed that test. Once Grandpa told all his QADIANI
Ummah that "TICHI TICHI" brought him this message that anybody who die
of CHOLERA is not a believer and is MURTADD and KAFIR. But unfortunatly
My Poor Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) not only suffered from CHOLERA but
died of CHOLERA TOO. and the attack of CHOLERA was so svere that when my
Grandpa (MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) died, the SHIT came out of his mouth. His
body was stinking in the bathroom for a few days. Nobody volunteered to
pickup my Grandpa's dead body. I still remember the stink of Grandpa's
dead body. and that stink has messed up my brains too. Anyhow I still think
that it was a blessing for me from my Grandpa (Mirza Ghulam Qadiani). I
dont know that why these MUSLIMS are making a big thing out of my GRANDPA'S
MISERABLE DEATH. Why dont they feel sorry for him. At the end I would say
that it was "TICHI TICHI" who gave the wrong information to my Grandpa,
IT was not his fault either. TICHI TICHI pulled atrick on Grandpa. You
see how simpole was my Grandpa (MIRZA KAZIB).
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <(none)>
Ontario, CANADA - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:56:53 (EST)
Can any non-Ahamdi elaborate the prosedure of coming of Jesus (unto
you belive) I mean Where, When, How & Why will he come??
Usman <<>>
Rabwah, Pakistan - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:49:21 (EST)
Mr. Allah's Servent: How are you today Sir? Your writting is quite
confusing. I do not know to whome you are addressing. The clossest guess
taht I can measure is, that you are trying to convay your message to our
SHIA brothers. Is It?? Anyhow, I will Not write to you alot. But I will
Quote you from your writting where you said that prophet Mohammad saw said
" O, People No prophet Or Apostle will come after me and no new faith will
be born" Now my first Question to you IS, Who will be Jesus son of Mary
when according to you he will come back. WILL HE BE NOT A PROPHET? Secondly,
How you people will be able to define between apostle And true prophat?
TODAY MUSLIMS ARE SUCKING EACH OTHERS BLOOD THAT EVEN ANIMALS DON'T. DO
YOU EXPECT FROM THESE MUSLIM TO DEFINE TRUE OR APOSTLE.?? Mr. Sevent Of
Allah: Actually you have become SO extra humble servent of Allah that you
are unable to see reality. You are living in fictional world. TRY &
LEARN how to face reality. Now another thing, IS AHAMDIYYAT A NEW FAITH
? Well, then you might want to learn something about Ahmadiyyat. Make asure
THINK before writting on this page. Wasslam, ALi
Ali <<>>
Halifax, - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:35:57 (EST)
Mr. Allah's Servent: How are today Sir? Your writting is quite confusing.
I do not know to whome you are addressing. The clossest guess taht I can
measure is, that you are trying to convay your message to our SHIA brothers.
Is It?? Anyhow, I will Not write to you alot. But I will Quote you from
your writting where you said that prophet Mohammad saw said " O, People
No prophet Or Apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born"
Now my first Question to you IS, Who will be Jesus son of Mary when according
to you he will come back. WILL HE BE NOT A PROPHET? Secondly, How you people
will be able to define between apostle And true prophat? TODAY MUSLIMS
ARE SUCKING EACH OTHERS BLOOD THAT EVEN ANIMALS DON'T. DO YOU EXPECT FROM
THESE MUSLIM TO DEFINE TRUE OR APOSTLE.?? Mr. Sevent Of Allah: Actually
you have become SO extra humble servent of Allah that you are unable to
see reality. You are living in fictional world. TRY & LEARN how to
face reality. Now another thing, IS AHAMDIYYAT A NEW FAITH ? Well, then
you might want to learn something about Ahmadiyyat. Make asure THINK before
writting on this page. Wasslam, ALi
Ali <<>>
Halifax, - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 07:34:47 (EST)
Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters :The cult inventor named Alkazib
Mirza Ghulam Qadiani did not spare Allah(swt) from his perverted thoughts.
Qadiani followers can go to any length to create some confusion about the
teachings of Allah and His Last Prophet(SAW) to justify Alkazib's false
claims. Can any Qadiani (who has some shame left in his mind) answer me
about the following statement of Alkazib Mirza where he descended to the
lowest level of perversion like old time pagans ???? "I saw myself as if
I am a woman and Allah expressed in me his reproductive power of manliness.
( Zabiat-ul-Islam, by Yar Muhammad Qadiani, p. 34)
Fateh Sher <<>>
Toronto, Canada - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 04:50:51 (EST)
~~~~~
The Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Last Sermon
This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H.
in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' (in Mecca).
After praising, and thanking Allah he said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after
this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what
I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD
NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred,
so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return
the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that
no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and
that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take
usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be
waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict
nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest
and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's
uncle) shall henceforth be waived...
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all
hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware
of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to
your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have
taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission.
If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and
clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they
are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they
do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as
never to be unchaste.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship ALLAH, say your five daily
prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth
in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over
a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white
has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white
except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to
every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall
be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was
given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds.
So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH
WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which
I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example,
the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those
to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than
those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O ALLAH, that I have conveyed
your message to your people".
~~~~~
Got the message???
Jihad, the power of Muslim!!!!%Vh
Allah's servant
<memojazz@usa.net>
Singapore, SG singapore - Thursday, November 20, 1997 at 04:04:48 (EST)
Continuation of Subject, Controversy in Hazzrat Mirza sahib's writtings.
After one research Or new information prophat of Allah do change their
old version. Hazzrat ubu-Hurrara relates " Once holly prophat Mohammad
(saw) went to tribe of Bunu Harssa. And said O Bunu HArssa you are out
of wisdom of Allah, Then Hazzoor (saw) Looked around and then said No,You
are still in wisdom of Allah" (bukhari kitabul-hujj. chap. hurm. p210)
Now Tell me Isn't there are two different statements from holly prophat
(saw). It is exactly SO when Hazzrat Mirza sahib understood by an English
historian that the grave of Hazzrat Jesus son of Mary is in Syria. But
after his research & and help from Allah He indicated The grave of
Masih is in Kashmeer. Now I am not blaming on holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
that he changed his statements. No: The purpose of my saying is, prophet
of Allah do say according to their thinking & opinion. But Latter when
reaserch of something found it differnt then prophet of Allah can change
his words. Now it depends on the people how much ability & Tuqwa they
have. It is also written in Hadiethes that "Holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
Agreed with those matters & desissions with Jew & Christain about
holly prophet did not had revolution" (muslim vol. 2 p296) Those are you
stupid people who EVEN accepted the idea that Quran has controversy in
itself. And because Muslim ULAMA were NOT able to answer those aligation,
Thus they were very happy to adopt this idea. Jama'at e Ahmadiyya is one
which never believed in controvercy. Now Lets read the wrtting of Great
Muslim ULAMA Shaw Walliullah Muhuddas Dehlivi who says "Four verses of
holly Quran are seem to be abrogate"(al-fouzul kabeer 18-21) Let see first
two verses. the first verse that he abrogate is "(Al-Anfal 16)" Where Allah
says " O ye who believe ! when you meet those who disbelive, advancing
in force, turn not your backs to them" Second one "(Al-Anfal 67)" Which
says ".....So, if there be a hundred of you are steadfast, they shall overcome
two hundred;..." For to see other two abrogated verses by Shaw Walliullah
Muhaddas you can see (Tafseer Hussaini vol. 1 p 390 & 453) Now how
foolish you people are blaming on Hazzrat Mirza sahib, But DO NOT see to
their Great ULAMA that they not only have changed their own words But did
not hesitated to say taht some verses of Holly Quran are abrogated. SHAME,
SHAME. Now Let see An other Great ULAMA -e-Islam Molana Snaullah Amretsry,
he says " At first Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to go to cementery, But
Latter he allowed to go." " First Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to keep meet
of secrify more than three days, but latter he allowed" " First prophet
Mohammad saw forbid to eat & drink in pots of alcohol, but latter he
allowed" (Tafseer Snayi vol. 1 p133) Now any ignorant man EVEN can understand
taht What this Mullan is saying. The thing is, When Ahamdi say samething,
Ahamdi are hypocite, Ahamdi are LIAR, Ahamdi are Munafiq Ahamdi are this
& Ahmadi are That. But when samething is said by a Mullan, O ho ho
ho ho, There is nothing wrong. Allah has forced these bloody mullans to
stamp on the truth of Imam Mehdi. No matter what they say to publick. In
my NEXT writting I will prove taht Quran itself makes controversy statements
(must understand not from the point of view of Jamate Ahamdiyya) But to
explain that Basically it not controversy.
A. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 23:33:58 (EST)
Continuation of Subject, Controversy in Hazzrat Mirza sahib's writtings.
After one research Or new information prophat of Allah do change their
old version. Hazzrat ubu-Hurrara relates " Once holly prophat Mohammad
(saw) went to tribe of Bunu Harssa. And said O Bunu HArssa you are out
of wisdom of Allah, Then Hazzoor (saw) Looked around and then said No,You
are still in wisdom of Allah" (bukhari kitabul-hujj. chap. hurm. p210)
Now Tell me Isn't there are two different statements from holly prophat
(saw). It is exactly SO when Hazzrat Mirza sahib understood by an English
historian that the grave of Hazzrat Jesus son of Mary is in Syria. But
after his research & and help from Allah He indicated The grave of
Masih is in Kashmeer. Now I am not blaming on holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
that he changed his statements. No: The purpose of my saying is, prophet
of Allah do say according to their thinking & opinion. But Latter when
reaserch of something found it differnt then prophet of Allah can change
his words. Now it depends on the people how much ability & Tuqwa they
have. It is also written in Hadiethes that "Holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
Agreed with those matters & desissions with Jew & Christain about
holly prophet did not had revolution" (muslim vol. 2 p296) Those are you
stupid people who EVEN accepted the idea that Quran has controversy in
itself. And because Muslim ULAMA were NOT able to answer those aligation,
Thus they were very happy to adopt this idea. Jama'at e Ahmadiyya is one
which never believed in controvercy. Now Lets read the wrtting of Great
Muslim ULAMA Shaw Walliullah Muhuddas Dehlivi who says "Four verses of
holly Quran are seem to be abrogate"(al-fouzul kabeer 18-21) Let see first
two verses. the first verse that he abrogate is "(Al-Anfal 16)" Where Allah
says " O ye who believe ! when you meet those who disbelive, advancing
in force, turn not your backs to them" Second one "(Al-Anfal 67)" Which
says ".....So, if there be a hundred of you are steadfast, they shall overcome
two hundred;..." For to see other two abrogated verses by Shaw Walliullah
Muhaddas you can see (Tafseer Hussaini vol. 1 p 390 & 453) Now how
foolish you people are blaming on Hazzrat Mirza sahib, But DO NOT see to
their Great ULAMA that they not only have changed their own words But did
not hesitated to say taht some verses of Holly Quran are abrogated. SHAME,
SHAME. Now Let see An other Great ULAMA -e-Islam Molana Snaullah Amretsry,
he says " At first Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to go to cementery, But
Latter he allowed to go." " First Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to keep meet
of secrify more than three days, but latter he allowed" " First prophet
Mohammad saw forbid to eat & drink in pots of alcohol, but latter he
allowed" (Tafseer Snayi vol. 1 p133) Now any ignorant man EVEN can understand
taht What this Mullan is saying. The thing is, When Ahamdi say samething,
Ahamdi are hypocite, Ahamdi are LIAR, Ahamdi are Munafiq Ahamdi are this
& Ahmadi are That. But when samething is said by a Mullan, O ho ho
ho ho, There is nothing wrong. Allah has forced these bloody mullans to
stamp on the truth of Imam Mehdi. No matter what they say to publick. In
my NEXT writting I will prove taht Quran itself makes controversy statements
(must understand not from the point of view of Jamate Ahamdiyya) But to
explain that Basically it not controversy.
A. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 23:21:43 (EST)
Continuation of Subject, Controversy in Hazzrat Mirza sahib's writtings.
After one research Or new information prophat of Allah do change their
old version. Hazzrat ubu-Hurrara relates " Once holly prophat Mohammad
(saw) went to tribe of Bunu Harssa. And said O Bunu HArssa you are out
of wisdom of Allah, Then Hazzoor (saw) Looked around and then said No,You
are still in wisdom of Allah" (bukhari kitabul-hujj. chap. hurm. p210)
Now Tell me Isn't there are two different statements from holly prophat
(saw). It is exactly SO when Hazzrat Mirza sahib understood by an English
historian that the grave of Hazzrat Jesus son of Mary is in Syria. But
after his research & and help from Allah He indicated The grave of
Masih is in Kashmeer. Now I am not blaming on holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
that he changed his statements. No: The purpose of my saying is, prophet
of Allah do say according to their thinking & opinion. But Latter when
reaserch of something found it differnt then prophet of Allah can change
his words. Now it depends on the people how much ability & Tuqwa they
have. It is also written in Hadiethes that "Holly prophet Mohammad (saw)
Agreed with those matters & desissions with Jew & Christain about
holly prophet did not had revolution" (muslim vol. 2 p296) Those are you
stupid people who EVEN accepted the idea that Quran has controversy in
itself. And because Muslim ULAMA were NOT able to answer those aligation,
Thus they were very happy to adopt this idea. Jama'at e Ahmadiyya is one
which never believed in controvercy. Now Lets read the wrtting of Great
Muslim ULAMA Shaw Walliullah Muhuddas Dehlivi who says "Four verses of
holly Quran are seem to be abrogate"(al-fouzul kabeer 18-21) Let see first
two verses. the first verse that he abrogate is "(Al-Anfal 16)" Where Allah
says " O ye who believe ! when you meet those who disbelive, advancing
in force, turn not your backs to them" Second one "(Al-Anfal 67)" Which
says ".....So, if there be a hundred of you are steadfast, they shall overcome
two hundred;..." For to see other two abrogated verses by Shaw Walliullah
Muhaddas you can see (Tafseer Hussaini vol. 1 p 390 & 453) Now how
foolish you people are blaming on Hazzrat Mirza sahib, But DO NOT see to
their Great ULAMA that they not only have changed their own words But did
not hesitated to say taht some verses of Holly Quran are abrogated. SHAME,
SHAME. Now Let see An other Great ULAMA -e-Islam Molana Snaullah Amretsry,
he says " At first Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to go to cementery, But
Latter he allowed to go." " First Prophet Mohammad saw forbid to keep meet
of secrify more than three days, but latter he allowed" " First prophet
Mohammad saw forbid to eat & drink in pots of alcohol, but latter he
allowed" (Tafseer Snayi vol. 1 p133) Now any ignorant man EVEN can understand
taht What this Mullan is saying. The thing is, When Ahamdi say samething,
Ahamdi are hypocite, Ahamdi are LIAR, Ahamdi are Munafiq Ahamdi are this
& Ahmadi are That. But when samething is said by a Mullan, O ho ho
ho ho, There is nothing wrong. Allah has forced these bloody mullans to
stamp on the truth of Imam Mehdi. No matter what they say to publick. In
my NEXT writting I will prove taht Quran itself makes controversy statements
(must understand not from the point of view of Jamate Ahamdiyya) But to
explain that Basically it not controversy.
A. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 23:20:48 (EST)
Mr. Aziz: You are NOT doing something right. You do not know the
result of your writting to "A" particular person. If you know there is
snake in this hole, will you put your fungure in it. there is a saying
" If you see DOG is barking, just pass quitely" your writting to this man
is exactly to throw stone toward that DOG. If you want that DOG to be quite,
you have to stop yourself first: Let him write whatever he wants TO.
A. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 21:20:31 (EST)
Another answer of this question that why Sultan Mohammad did not
Accepted Ahamdiyyat is. When Mirza Sultan Mohammad Admitted himself that
the believe And the Trust that he has on mirza sahib is EVEN more than
many of his followers. Readers: It is exactly that Christan & Jews
blame on holly prophat Mohammad (saw) that if he( Mohammad saw) was true
prophat of Allah Why HAzzrat Ubu-Talib who was his dear Uncle & who
lived all his life in Mohammad saw's environment DID NOT Accepted Islam.
Can anyone object on this: That hazzrat ubu-talib rz did Love prophat of
Allah more than many of his followers. The question is: If he Loved prophat
of Allah so much, then why he did not accepted Islam? If these so-called
muslims (72)can answer this question. I witness the Lord of Mohammad saw
the same answer would be ahamdies.
A. Waraich <<>>
<>, - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 21:09:36 (EST)
Dear Readers: All allegations made by the gentleman 'Qadiani Buster'
have been repudiated by the Jamaat Ahmadiyya. If you are a truth seeker
then please visit the web site ww.alislam.org InshaAllah you will find
that these allegations are based on fabrications and have no merit in them.
WassalaaVh
Abdul Aziz <n.r>
Ca USA - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 21:05:47 (EST)
Dear Readers: All allegations made by the gentleman 'Qadiani Buster'
have been repudiated by the Jamaat Ahmadiyya. If you are a truth seeker
then please visit the web site ww.alislam.org InshaAllah you will find
that these allegations are based on fabrications and have no merit in them.
WassalaaVh
Abdul Aziz <n.r>
Ca USA - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 21:04:14 (EST)
Mirza Sultan Mohammad's Latter recognition of truth of Ahamdiyyat
& Hazzrat Mirza sahib. "I have recieved your requested latter. I am
very thanksfull of being remember. I believe " jnab mirza je sahib merhoom
ko naik buzurg, Islam ka khidmat guzar, sahreefun-nufs khuda yad pahle
bhe ooor ub bhe khiyal kurta hun" ( I did believe mirza sahib late a humble
saint, devoted to islam and extreme pure person, now And EVEN before.)
Also I do not have any thing against his followers, I regret myself taht
because of one or two arguments I could not able to bless from him in his
life" (Niyaz mund Sultan Mohammad uz unbalah, Gazat # 9) Any one can understand
this, A person about his wife some one (Hazzrat Mirza sahib) is saying
taht Allah told him taht he will mary with her. And the above writting
is the person's who was the husband of that woman. Think: How could it
be possible , if it was not prophecy & a mericle. And the same person
admites himself taht mirza sahib is an extreme pure & devoted to Islam.
Again Mirza Sultan Mohammad says " Next thing, that many people blame on
Hazzrat Mirza sahib taht why I ( Sultan Mohammad) did not accpted Ahmadiyyat.
First: I swear, the Believe and trust that I have on Mirza sahib, I think
those who are even followers of Mirza sahib might not have. The condition
of my heart can be understood that at the time of this prophecy, Those
who were Hindu, because of Laykhram And Christain because of Atham were
ready to give me One Hundered thousand rupies. Only because they wanted
from me to say something agaist HAzzrat Mirza sahib. Now if I have been
taken that money I could be the richest man in the region. But it was same
Believe and Trust of Mirza sahib that it kept me stop of doing anything
agaist him".(Al-fazal 9/13 June 19921) Now I will breiefly write about
the son of Mirza Sultan Mohammad & Mohammadi Bagum. Whose name was
Mirza Ishaq Baig. Just for the sake of those who do not know, Mirza Ishaq
Accepted Ahmadiyyat in his life. He writes that it is very unusual that
still enemy of Hazzrat Mirza sahib say that prophecy of Mohammadi Bagum
was not fullfiled. How come?: It is blindness that people cannot see that
a majority of the family members of Mirza Ahamd Baig Accepted Ahamdiyyat.
Isn't this indication of prophecy being truth enough? He says, some times
prophet of Allah do say things which are only for the fear of people. And
it is not possible taht whenever a prophet say something it has to be SO.
No: we alll know that HAzzrat Ynus told people of his village taht ALlah
has told him that this vilalge will distroyed. The question is, DID It
happend so? Now does anyone could imagin that nouzubillag Hazzrat Yunus
Lied. I as the member of the family of Mirza Ahamd Baig Swear to Allah
TAHT MIRZA SAHIB IS THE SAME MASIH-E-MOUD ABOUT WHOM PROPHAT MOHAMMAD PEACE
BE UPON HIM PROPHESIZED" ( KHAKSAT MIRZA ISHAQ BAIG PUTTI DIST LAHORE,
HALL WARD CHUCK # 165 2B) (/COPY, ALFAZAL 26 FABRUARY 1932) Now the next
proof of this fullfiled prophecy was that, When these enemies did not stop
blaming Hazzrat Mirza sahib, Mirza sahib said " To justify this confusion
is very easy. If you people are so active, then go to son in law of Ahamd
BAig who is Sulatan Mohammad, and say to him taht publish a pumphlet agaist
this lie from my side. And after that fixed time if his death time goes
over, I will admit of biang Lair. Now I want you to go to him and encourage
him to stand agaist me, And then see the mericle of Alalh" ( Anjame Atham
32) Readers: After this pumphlet to Mullan of taht time, Hazzrat Mirza
sahib remained Alive 12 year But no Sone of the woman could encourage Mirza
Sulatan Mohammad to stand agaist Hazzrat Mirza sahib.
A. Waraich <<>>
- Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 20:47:41 (EST)
Dear Mr. Waraich: See for yourself the comments of the gentleman
'Qadiani Buster'. Do you still think that such people have anything to
do with Prophet Muhammad (SAS)? Leave him and his disguised-named-cronies
to Allah. Only He has the power to show them the right way. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.r.>
Ca USA - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 20:16:01 (EST)
This is for Branded Murtadeens Like ABDUL AZIZ, WARAICH, Usman as
well as The Crown Prince Of MURTASDEENS "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURTADEENS
Please Listen Carefully and then Answer: For Years, MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
QADIANI attributed outrageous lies to ALLAH (SWT). he claimed to be Mehdi,the
Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of MUHAMMAD(SAW), a new improved prophet,
Hindu Lord, son of GOD, and God incarnated. He said that he was in direct
communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were devine.
It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his (Mirza Kazib's) death a testimony
to his lies. His sudden and disgraceful death proved his following prophecies
to have been lies: 1- His prophecy that he (MIRZA KAZIB) will live to be
80 or more years old; (HE "MIRZA KAZIB" died when he was 68 years old)
2- His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum, before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi begum) 3- The Claim (and Mubahila Challenge)
that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar, his arch opponent who had openly called
him (to Mirza Kazib) a LIAR and an IMPOSTER, will die before him; (The
LIAR will die first- MIRZA KAZIB died first) 4- His Prophecy that Dr. Abdul
Hakim, one of his opponents who had called him a LIAR during an open debate,
will die within Mirza's life time; (The LIAR will die first---MIRZA Kazib
Died first) 5- The Prophecy (and mubahala Challenge) that Mr. Abdullah
Authom, a christian who had debated with MIRZA KAZIB and put him to shame,
will die before him; (Mirza said that the liar will die first-- MIRZA KAZIB
died first) 6- His revelation that ALLAH (SWT) will bestow upon him a great
new son, a sign of Allah(SWT) presence and proof of his prophethood: (MIRZA
KAZIB DIED WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER SON) 7-His claim that Allah(SWT) had
revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women; (After the
false prophecy he never married any one) 8-His prophecy that he (MIRZA
KAZIB) will marry a widow , before his death; (After the prophecy he did
not marry anyone else) 9- His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina.
(MIRZA KAZIB died in disgrace in the city of Lahore/ He never saw MEKKAH
or MEDINA) Indeed Mirza Ghulam Kazib's death was a sign of ALLAH(SWT)'s
displeasure with him. We will also review the record of MIRZA KAZIB'S disgraceful
death as recounted by his closest followers and the ACTUAL WITNESSES of
Mirza's Stinking and disgraceful death. All of You MURTADEEN'S are you
ready to hear the truth but the whole TRUTH. I will be Back. INSHA ALLAH
In The HOLY QURAN ALLAH (SWT) says: "Say Verily those who invent a lie
concerning ALLAH will not succeed> This world's portion (will be theirs),
then unto US is their return. Then, We make them taste a dreadful doom,
because they used to disbelieve.' (THE HOLY QURAN, Yunus, 10:69-70)
QADIANI BUSTER <QadianiBuster@Rabwah.com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997
at 18:40:03 (EST)
Thsi is for Branded Murtadeens Like ABDUL AZIZ, WARAICH, Usman as
well as The Crown Prince Of MURTASDEENS "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURTADEENS
Please Listen Carefully and then Answer: For Years, MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
QADIANI attributed outrageous lies to ALLAH (SWT). he claimed to be Mehdi,the
Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of MUHAMMAD(SAW), a new improved prophet,
Hindu Lord, son of GOD, and God incarnated. He said that he was in direct
communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were devine.
It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his (Mirza Kazib's) death a testimony
to his lies. His sudden and disgraceful death proved his following prophecies
to have been lies: 1- His prophecy that he (MIRZA KAZIB) will live to be
80 or more years old; (HE "MIRZA KAZIB" died when he was 68 years old)
2- His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum, before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi begum) 3- The Claim (and Mubahila Challenge)
that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar, his arch opponent who had openly called
him (to Mirza Kazib) a LIAR and an IMPOSTER, will die before him; (The
LIAR will die first- MIRZA KAZIB died first) 4- His Prophecy that Dr. Abdul
Hakim, one of his opponents who had called him a LIAR during an open debate,
will die within Mirza's life time; (The LIAR will die first---MIRZA Kazib
Died first) 5- The Prophecy (and mubahala Challenge) that Mr. Abdullah
Authom, a christian who had debated with MIRZA KAZIB and put him to shame,
will die before him; (Mirza said that the liar will die first-- MIRZA KAZIB
died first) 6- His revelation that ALLAH (SWT) will bestow upon him a great
new son, a sign of Allah(SWT) presence and proof of his prophethood: (MIRZA
KAZIB DIED WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER SON) 7-His claim that Allah(SWT) had
revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women; (After the
false prophecy he never married any one) 8-His prophecy that he (MIRZA
KAZIB) will marry a widow , before his death; (After the prophecy he did
not marry anyone else) 9- His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina.
(MIRZA KAZIB died in disgrace in the city of Lahore/ He never saw MEKKAH
or MEDINA) Indeed Mirza Ghulam Kazib's death was a sign of ALLAH(SWT)'s
displeasure with him. We will also review the record of MIRZA KAZIB'S disgraceful
death as recounted by his closest followers and the ACTUAL WITNESSES of
Mirza's Stinking and disgraceful death. All of You MURTADEEN'S are you
ready to hear the truth but the whole TRUTH. I will be Back. INSHA ALLAH
In The HOLY QURAN ALLAH (SWT) says: "Say Verily those who invent a lie
concerning ALLAH will not succeed> This world's portion (will be theirs),
then unto US is their return. Then, We make them taste a dreadful doom,
because they used to disbelieve.' (THE HOLY QURAN, Yunus, 10:69-70)
QADIANI BUSTER <QadianiBuster@Rabwah.com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997
at 18:39:24 (EST)
Thsi is for Branded Murtadeens Like ABDUL AZIZ, WARAICH, Usman as
well as The Crown Prince Of MURTASDEENS "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURTADEENS
Please Listen Carefully and then Answer: For Years, MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
QADIANI attributed outrageous lies to ALLAH (SWT). he claimed to be Mehdi,the
Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of MUHAMMAD(SAW), a new improved prophet,
Hindu Lord, son of GOD, and God incarnated. He said that he was in direct
communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were devine.
It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his (Mirza Kazib's) death a testimony
to his lies. His sudden and disgraceful death proved his following prophecies
to have been lies: 1- His prophecy that he (MIRZA KAZIB) will live to be
80 or more years old; (HE "MIRZA KAZIB" died when he was 68 years old)
2- His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum, before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi begum) 3- The Claim (and Mubahila Challenge)
that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar, his arch opponent who had openly called
him (to Mirza Kazib) a LIAR and an IMPOSTER, will die before him; (The
LIAR will die first- MIRZA KAZIB died first) 4- His Prophecy that Dr. Abdul
Hakim, one of his opponents who had called him a LIAR during an open debate,
will die within Mirza's life time; (The LIAR will die first---MIRZA Kazib
Died first) 5- The Prophecy (and mubahala Challenge) that Mr. Abdullah
Authom, a christian who had debated with MIRZA KAZIB and put him to shame,
will die before him; (Mirza said that the liar will die first-- MIRZA KAZIB
died first) 6- His revelation that ALLAH (SWT) will bestow upon him a great
new son, a sign of Allah(SWT) presence and proof of his prophethood: (MIRZA
KAZIB DIED WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER SON) 7-His claim that Allah(SWT) had
revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women; (After the
false prophecy he never married any one) 8-His prophecy that he (MIRZA
KAZIB) will marry a widow , before his death; (After the prophecy he did
not marry anyone else) 9- His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina.
(MIRZA KAZIB died in disgrace in the city of Lahore/ He never saw MEKKAH
or MEDINA) Indeed Mirza Ghulam Kazib's death was a sign of ALLAH(SWT)'s
displeasure with him. We will also review the record of MIRZA KAZIB'S disgraceful
death as recounted by his closest followers and the ACTUAL WITNESSES of
Mirza's Stinking and disgraceful death. All of You MURTADEEN'S are you
ready to hear the truth but the whole TRUTH. I will be Back. INSHA ALLAH
In The HOLY QURAN ALLAH (SWT) says: "Say Verily those who invent a lie
concerning ALLAH will not succeed> This world's portion (will be theirs),
then unto US is their return. Then, We make them taste a dreadful doom,
because they used to disbelieve.' (THE HOLY QURAN, Yunus, 10:69-70)
QADIANI BUSTER <QadianiBuster@Rabwah.com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997
at 18:38:35 (EST)
Thsi is for Branded Murtadeens Like ABDUL AZIZ, WARAICH, Usman as
well as The Crown Prince Of MURTASDEENS "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURTADEENS
Please Listen Carefully and then Answer: For Years, MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
QADIANI attributed outrageous lies to ALLAH (SWT). he claimed to be Mehdi,the
Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of MUHAMMAD(SAW), a new improved prophet,
Hindu Lord, son of GOD, and God incarnated. He said that he was in direct
communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were devine.
It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his (Mirza Kazib's) death a testimony
to his lies. His sudden and disgraceful death proved his following prophecies
to have been lies: 1- His prophecy that he (MIRZA KAZIB) will live to be
80 or more years old; (HE "MIRZA KAZIB" died when he was 68 years old)
2- His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum, before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi begum) 3- The Claim (and Mubahila Challenge)
that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar, his arch opponent who had openly called
him (to Mirza Kazib) a LIAR and an IMPOSTER, will die before him; (The
LIAR will die first- MIRZA KAZIB died first) 4- His Prophecy that Dr. Abdul
Hakim, one of his opponents who had called him a LIAR during an open debate,
will die within Mirza's life time; (The LIAR will die first---MIRZA Kazib
Died first) 5- The Prophecy (and mubahala Challenge) that Mr. Abdullah
Authom, a christian who had debated with MIRZA KAZIB and put him to shame,
will die before him; (Mirza said that the liar will die first-- MIRZA KAZIB
died first) 6- His revelation that ALLAH (SWT) will bestow upon him a great
new son, a sign of Allah(SWT) presence and proof of his prophethood: (MIRZA
KAZIB DIED WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER SON) 7-His claim that Allah(SWT) had
revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women; (After the
false prophecy he never married any one) 8-His prophecy that he (MIRZA
KAZIB) will marry a widow , before his death; (After the prophecy he did
not marry anyone else) 9- His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina.
(MIRZA KAZIB died in disgrace in the city of Lahore/ He never saw MEKKAH
or MEDINA) Indeed Mirza Ghulam Kazib's death was a sign of ALLAH(SWT)'s
displeasure with him. We will also review the record of MIRZA KAZIB'S disgraceful
death as recounted by his closest followers and the ACTUAL WITNESSES of
Mirza's Stinking and disgraceful death. All of You MURTADEEN'S are you
ready to hear the truth but the whole TRUTH. I will be Back. INSHA ALLAH
In The HOLY QURAN ALLAH (SWT) says: "Say Verily those who invent a lie
concerning ALLAH will not succeed> This world's portion (will be theirs),
then unto US is their return. Then, We make them taste a dreadful doom,
because they used to disbelieve.' (THE HOLY QURAN, Yunus, 10:69-70)
QADIANI BUSTER <QadianiBuster@Rabwah.com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997
at 18:38:02 (EST)
Thsi is for Branded Murtadeens Like ABDUL AZIZ, WARAICH, Usman as
well as The Crown Prince Of MURTASDEENS "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURTADEENS
Please Listen Carefully and then Answer: For Years, MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
QADIANI attributed outrageous lies to ALLAH (SWT). he claimed to be Mehdi,the
Promised Messiah, a reincarnation of MUHAMMAD(SAW), a new improved prophet,
Hindu Lord, son of GOD, and God incarnated. He said that he was in direct
communication with Allah and claimed that his revelations were devine.
It is fitting that Allah(SWT) made his (Mirza Kazib's) death a testimony
to his lies. His sudden and disgraceful death proved his following prophecies
to have been lies: 1- His prophecy that he (MIRZA KAZIB) will live to be
80 or more years old; (HE "MIRZA KAZIB" died when he was 68 years old)
2- His prophecy that he would marry Muhammadi Begum, before his death;
(He never did marry Muhammadi begum) 3- The Claim (and Mubahila Challenge)
that Moulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar, his arch opponent who had openly called
him (to Mirza Kazib) a LIAR and an IMPOSTER, will die before him; (The
LIAR will die first- MIRZA KAZIB died first) 4- His Prophecy that Dr. Abdul
Hakim, one of his opponents who had called him a LIAR during an open debate,
will die within Mirza's life time; (The LIAR will die first---MIRZA Kazib
Died first) 5- The Prophecy (and mubahala Challenge) that Mr. Abdullah
Authom, a christian who had debated with MIRZA KAZIB and put him to shame,
will die before him; (Mirza said that the liar will die first-- MIRZA KAZIB
died first) 6- His revelation that ALLAH (SWT) will bestow upon him a great
new son, a sign of Allah(SWT) presence and proof of his prophethood: (MIRZA
KAZIB DIED WITHOUT HAVING ANOTHER SON) 7-His claim that Allah(SWT) had
revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women; (After the
false prophecy he never married any one) 8-His prophecy that he (MIRZA
KAZIB) will marry a widow , before his death; (After the prophecy he did
not marry anyone else) 9- His prophecy that he will die in Mekkah or Medina.
(MIRZA KAZIB died in disgrace in the city of Lahore/ He never saw MEKKAH
or MEDINA) Indeed Mirza Ghulam Kazib's death was a sign of ALLAH(SWT)'s
displeasure with him. We will also review the record of MIRZA KAZIB'S disgraceful
death as recounted by his closest followers and the ACTUAL WITNESSES of
Mirza's Stinking and disgraceful death. All of You MURTADEEN'S are you
ready to hear the truth but the whole TRUTH. I will be Back. INSHA ALLAH
QADIANI BUSTER <QadianiBuster@Rabwah.com>
Rabwah, Islamic Republic Of Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997
at 18:33:24 (EST)
Dear Mr. Waraich: I am surprised at your simplicity. You expect
non-Ahmadis to write to protect the honor of our beloved master Prophet
Muhammad (SAS). If they were really interested in upholding the honor and
prestige of Muhammad (SAS) then do you think they will behave in the world
as they are doing now. Mr Waraich these non-Ahmadis are interested in satisfying
their ego by abusing the Promised Messiah. They want to show you how arrogant
and mighty they are when dealing with Ahmadis. As against others, such
as Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc they are nothing but weaklings, unable
to earn their own living and defend themselves. They are ready to beg for
food, arms, money and protection from everybody including their own people.
Allah (SWA) has drained them of all their strength for their unjust opposition
to His messenger who wanted no reward from them, who only preached to them
only the message of His master Muhammad (SAS). The purpose of these non-Ahmadis
(I mean active ones) as transparent from their deeds is to bring the downfall
of Islam and bring disrepute to Prophet Muhammad (SAS). So, please don't
expect them to write to wash the blames non-Muslims heap on the innocent.
Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.r>
Ca USA - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 15:17:50 (EST)
Dear Non-Ahmadies: Can anyone elaborate little bit on the method
for the returning of prophet Jesus son of Mary to earth. First: I heard
that his drop off will be over the pillar of Khana'Ka'aba. Question, Which
pilar? Question, how will he be coming down, will he just fall, I mean
isn't he will be hurt seriously? Or will he be flying? O.k lets believe
he has arrived in Mecca. Now how will the rest of the world would believe
in him, I mean especially fellow Pakistanies? What about Christans &
Jews, Hindues And etc. What I am saying is what will he teach? Quran, Well
Christan & Jews + Hindues won't believe in him. Will he teach Bible?
Well Muslim & others won't believe in him. Will he teach Torah? Well
Muslim & christan + others won't believe in him. What about Gitta?
Well muslim, christain, Jews And Buddahst won't believe in him. See! there
is a big problem here. Well, for the time being lets believe he will teach
Quran. What about Next. Now he has to fullfil his second promise. He has
to go to Jungles and has to kill all the Pigs. well I guess first he will
start from Midd-east, Then Africa, and there he will take his time. Because
as you all people know Africa is full of Jungles. Then he will come to
South Asia, then Far-east and then so on & so far. But no doubt he
will be busy all along his life to kill pigs in America & Europe. Anyhow,
lets pretend he is very successful, and is able to kill all pigs from this
planet. His second mission is to break all the cross in the world. Now
this will be pretty hard target for him. Because here he will break, but
there new coresses will be built in factories. Now I am just thinking myself,
what will he do after this. Well, for sure he cannot teach thou. Because
he will be old enough to teach . But again what will he teach? Quran, Well
, will he knew Arabic. So, Oh No I think first he will take Arabic classes,
O ya. Well still problem is still not solved. What about Urdu. He aint
be able to speak Urdu. So, Well I think He has to learn Urdu too. Well
what about English, Dutch, gurmukhi and so many others. Now again, If he
comes in Mecca, How many people will able to see him coming down alive?
Well, the # would be very small. So what about those who will not be able
to see him, will they accept him? especially those who are in pakistan
india, japan china so on & so far. So the problem is not solved. I
guess we should ask this to some our non-ahamdi brothers: Question: When
Jesus son of mary will come? Question: Where? Question: What will he teach?
Questin: In which language will he speak? Question: Where will he live?
Question: How will he come down? Question: Name the source? (Plane, UFO,
Halicopter,Misial, angels) These are first primary Questions: Real debate
will start after this........
Usman <<>>
Rabwah, Pakistan - Wednesday, November 19, 1997 at 08:34:15 (EST)
It is always very easy to raise fingure on anyone. Earlier A man
blamed on Hazzrat Mohammad (saw) regaurding have more than four wives for
himself while for other muslims only four. where were you people? Why could
not answer him? It was an ahmadi writter who defended Islam. It is your
claim taht you people are Khadim-e-Islam. Is your Khidam-e-Islamiat is
only work against ahamdiyyat? First of all, there is need to understand
the the prediction of Mirza sahib. Hazzrat Mirza sahib did not say anything
like this man who always eates surplus. Any man who have a little brain
in his head could understand his history of debate with Mr. Ali. He has
history of giving wrong refrences, repeating aligations, Mis-quotaiong,
And jumping from one topic to another one like a monkey. What this ignorant
man said above is this "Mirza (sahib) said that his Nikah will held with
Mohummadi Bagum. If his Nikah will not held with Mohammudi Bagum he will
be found a great Lair. As result, because of Mirza (sahib's)Nikah was not
held with Mohammadi Bagum, Thus Mirza (sahib) is (nouzubillah) Found Lair".
This is the way that these street Mullans claim that they are very successfull
against ahmadiyyat. Readers: The fact is, It is absolutely a Lie. Let read
the original text of the prediction of Hazzrat Mirza sahib in my english
translation.(which might not be right) "The Lord who is all knowing has
told me regaurding this man's (Ahamd BAig) daughter, that you go for her
hand. And tell them Allah will bless them, and you people will found this
a mericle for them. But if it turns to refusal then the results for this
girl will be terrible. And the one who will mery her will die in Two &
half years and the father of the girl will die in three years of time from
the date of Nikah".(Aaina kmalattuol Islam p286) Readers: Right after this
Alham, Allah told Hazzrat mirza sahib that Mirza Ahamd Baig will give his
daughter to someone else (A'aina kmalatulIslamp 286) Now it is already
proven by Allah that Mirza Ahamd Baig will not call for mercy and WILL
DIE. The question is very clear here. (1) ALLAH HAS ALREADY TOLD HAZZRAT
MIRZA SAHIB THAT MIRZA AHMAD BAIG WILL MERY HIS DAUGHTER SOMEWHERE ELSE.
Isn't? (2) AFTER THE NIKAH, if they do not call for mercy UNDER THREE YEARS
OF TIME AHAMD BAIG & HIS SON IN LAW WILL DIE. Now the thing that we
need to see here is, Does anyone call for mercy. If someone does who is?
Or who will be ? Again you must understand that Allah has told right after
first alham that mirza Ahmad baig will not obey. Now it Quite clear taht
Mirza ahamd Baig will not call for mercy (period) Now it is possibility
that Sultan Ahamd will call for mercy, And if he does (and he did) Then
he will not die Therefore if does not die, his widdow will not mery with
Hazzrat Mirza sahib.(anjam-e-Athem 216) Readers: If Mirza sahib is unable
to mery with Mohammadi Bagum (1) Mirza ahamd should die in period of three
years time after the nikah. (2) If Sultan Ahmad does not die, then Jama'ate
Ahmadiyya should provide an authentic proof of his mercy from Allah. _________Prediction
fullfiled______________ (1)____Ahamd Baig arrange her daughter's nikah
7 April 1892. with Mirza Sultan Mohammad. (2)____Ahmad baig did not call
for mercy and DIES RIGHT AFTER 5 MONTHES AND 24 DAYS AT 30 SEPTEMBER 1892
of her daughter's nikah with sultan (3)____Sultan Mohammad called for mercy
And Allah accepted. (4)____Because Sultan Mohammad's Mercy was accepted
Thus he was survived, And Mohammadi Bagum Did not become widdow. Readers:
Wait for the proof of Sultan Mohammad's acceptance of mercy. Just little
note: I will write his latter to Hazzrat Mirza sahib. The question that
is raised by non ahmadies is why Sultan did not accepted Ahmadiyyat. thae
Answer is at the time of this prophecy was given till the end HAzzrat Mirza
sahib did not claimed Imam Mehdi Or any claime of Umti NAbi/
A. Waraich <<>>
City of Toronto, - Tuesday, November 18, 1997 at 23:43:05 (EST)
Rumy: I witness the Lord of Mohammad peace be upon him I knew you
will Jump on this issue. It is your nature. Now I Witness the Lord Of Mohammad,
I will answer your aligation word by word. Just wait for six hours more.
Let me come back from work.
Ali <<>>
Halifax, - Tuesday, November 18, 1997 at 21:56:10 (EST)
Continuation of subject wheather Hazzrat Mirza sahib made controversial
statements Or Not. Dear readers, I have proved my point regaurding this
issue from Quran in my yersterday's writting. Today I will try to focus
my point on what Hadiethes of Prophat Mohammad (saw) says. Just to get
a little feed back, What I said earlier that it is not unusual what prophat
of Allah says something, But latter Allah revealed him & corrects information
and most likely opposit to what have been said by the prophet at first
place. I have proved this point by giving refrences from the holly Quran.
Now let see what Hadiethes are saying. Prophat Mohammad (saw) said "Do
not perfere me over Mosses" (bukhari-fil-khusuus, vol.2 p37) Again Prophet
Mohammad (saw) said "One who says I,m being bestow over Yunus bin Mutti,
he is lair" (bukhari-kitabulfaseer-surannisa vol.3 p77) Now lets read muslim's
Hadieth, says; "Once a man came to holly prophat Mohammad (saw) and he
addressed Hazzor (saw) in these word, "O Greatest in all people". Hazzrat
Mohammad (saw) replied " That one is Abraham" (Not me, but Hazzrat Abraheeem
is THE greatest in all people)(mushkat p417. chap. alfakherah) Now about
this HAdieth Hazzrat Mulla Qari writes that the saying of Hazzrat Mohammad
(saw) that HAzzrat Abraham is greates in all people is his humbleness.
And also he says when Hazzrat Mohammad (saw) said until that time it was
not told to him by Allah that he is THE greates in all people. After this
Hazzrat Mohammad (saw) himself said that he is "The King of all the people"(muslim
refrence mushkatul-mutabeh p511) Then he siad " On the day of Jugement
I will be the King of all people" And also said " I am the Imam of all
the prophets" Again he says " I am the King of All the prophets" Now you
must understand these two statements, one where Hazoor (saw) is not admitting
himself as the King of all the people, On other hand he says he IS the
King of all peopel. And one muslim scollar admites taht holly prophet said
so, because untill that time Allah did not told Holly prophet that is THE
King OF ALL THE PEOPLE. (I hope this will also answer to those who blame
on Mirza sahib that first he claimed mesih then mehdi, then moud and so
on and so far) Now, regaurding this issue lets follow this refrence of
(hujjat-ul-baligah, vol.1 p637 & 638 chap.usba-un-nasekh) Hazzrat Shah
Walliullah sahib Muhauddus Dehlivi says" There are two methods which use
to make the Shria Law. One which Prophet of Allah said, but Allah rejected
and gave new Law. Second is one which is opinion of prophat of Allah (saw)in
which he believes to be right. But Later he changes himself into other
way around. The example of First methos is, Hazzrat Mohammad (saw) ordered
muslims to turn their faces to Bait-ul-Muquddus (Yeroshelum). Later Quran
(Allah) Cancelled this order of prophet Mohammad (saw) And told him &
other muslims to turn their faces to Ka'aba(in Mecca) when they pray. The
example of second method is, Once prophet Mohammad (saw) stopped people
to cook Nabeez in pots of Bujez Chahgill, But latter he allowed muslims
to cook in it. Now by looking these examples we can understand that Law
can be change & did change for the TIME BEING. Once Hazzrat Mohammad
(saw) said my statements or words cannot change the word of Allah, But
Words of Allah can change what I say".( Place of refrence is given above)
Now, It is same as I have explained above that one is the opinion or thinking
of a prophat, which he thinks for "A" Particular time. But Allah can And
does change it. Because he is all knowing. Therefore, it is easy to understand
that some times HAzzrat Mirza sahib Did changes what he said earlier, only
because under this nature of the Law of God. To prove this particular point
Lets read this Hadieth of Muslim. "Prophat Mohammad (saw) used to change
his one past statements with another statement"(muslim, vol. al-kitabul
tiharat). There is another thing that readers have to keep in mind. When
an Alham reveales on any prophet, Prophat takes his meaning Or understands
him by comparing the present incident or to his own experience of his knoledge.
It is possible, not only possible but it did happens most of the time that
prophats of Allah even DO relates Alham with a new incident regaurdless
wheather the meaning of Alham already been fit to another past incident.
For example it was told to holly prophat Mohammad (saw) taht he will travel
to a City where will be a large quantity of Trees of Date. Prophat Mohammad
(saw) thought of this Hadieth that he will travel to Ymama or Hijer. But
in reality he traveled to MAddina (bukhari vol.4 p143). Now to blame on
Hazzrat Mirza sahib that he changes his statements is an absolutely a falls
aligation. My writting is continue, in next writting I will prove taht
EVEN prophets of Allah do change their dissions.
A. Waraich <<>>
Mega City, - Tuesday, November 18, 1997 at 21:49:34 (EST)
"JISS KE JUTE US KE SIR"____________ HIS SHOES AND HIS HEAD ANOTHER
STORY OF A LIAR & HYPOCRITE Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani_________ Mirza
Kazib Said " THIS SHOULD BE CLEAR TO PEOPLE THAT THERE CAN BE NO BETTER
CRITERION OF TESTING OUR TRUTH OR FALSEHOOD THAN OUR PROPHECY" (Izala-e-Auham,
p 198) . Now the story of a Prophecy that never fulfilled . Mirza Kazib
declared : "…God has asked me that I should seek the hand of the elder
daughter (Muhammadi Begum) of this man (Mirza Ahmed Beg) …if he declines
to marry her, then the girl would meet an extremely tragic end : The other
person to whom she would be married would die within two and a half years
after the day of wedding, and so would die the father of the girl within
three years…the girl would encounter several events of unpleasant and grievous
nature." Despite these divine threats, she got married to SULTAN MUHAMMAD.
This was a slap on the face of MIRZA KAZIB'S divine status._______________
Then Mirza Kazib boasted " By way of PROPHECY the Exalted God revealed
it to his humble one that ultimately the elder daughter of Mirza Ahmed
Beg s/o MG Beg Hoshiarpuri, would be married to me…. The Exalted God would,
by all possible means, bring her to me, whether as a virgin or a widow,
and would remove all obstacles and will definitely fulfil this task. No
one can prevent it," (Aina-e-Kamalat-e - Islam, p288) ___ Then Mirza Kazib
announced _____ " The time for the divine punishment is conditionally predestined,
which can be put off by fear (of God) and turning (to God), as the whole
of Quran testifies. But so far as it relates to THE PROPHECY , that is
marriage of that woman to this humble one, that is assuredly predestined,
and cannot be waived off, for, in the divine revealation it is clearly
stated " MY WORDS WILL NEVER CHANGE." For, if they were to change, the
words of God would be false." (Tabligh-e-Risalat, vol 7, p115)________
Years went by this prophecy was becoming an embarrasement for the entire
Qadiani clique. Mirza Kazib kept on issuing divine statements for its execution.
____ Mirza insisted__ " I say again and again that the prophecy about son-in-law
of Ahmed Beg is assuredly predestined. Wait fir it. IF I AM A LIAR , THIS
PROPHECY WILL NOT BE FULLFILLED AND MY DEATH WILL COME" ( Anjam-e-Atham,
p 31n)____ He claimed that God has sent this revelation:--------- " AND
THEY ASK THEE IF THIS IS TRUE. SAY: YES, BY LORD, IT IS TRUE AND YOU CANNOT
PREVENT IT FROM TAKING PLACE. WE HAVE OURSELVES WED THEE TO HER. THERE
IS NONE TO CHANGE MY WORDS…" (Asmani Faisla, p 40)___________ AT THE END____
Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani , Died of CHOLERA on 26th May 1908, in the
TOILET of Lahore with broken heart. MUHAMMADI BEGUM & Her HUSBAND lived
happily & peacefully for the next four decades. ________ So JIS KE
JUTE US KE SIR"
RUMY <NA>
RAHIM YAAR KHAN, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN - Tuesday, November 18,
1997 at 20:01:04 (EST)