ME ME ME ME HA HA HA HA HA IT IS SO TASTEY
HA HA HA PLEASE ME ME ME ha ha ha ha ha pLEASE pUT YOUR LUN INTO MY HOLE.
PLEASE ME ME
QADIANI BUSTER <FUCK ME HA
FUCK MEHA>
PK - Monday, February 16, 1998 at 13:14:10 (EST)
Ladies & Gentlemen, My name is Qadiani Buster, I was
born in mix of Urine & blood of mother. I want all male & female
to ME HARD. I want all men to fill my hole & Fuck me with their big
Dicks. Also I want my sisters to suck my small tit & dick. Wasslam
Qadiani Buster. I pray for all those who me & are on right PATH.
Qadiani Buster <FUCK ME @
HA. FUCKME>
PK - Monday, February 16, 1998 at 13:10:42 (EST)
Mr.Thinker.There is no such book as Anjam e Atham.I have
looked for it and it does not exist in the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
elesalam.Maybe you have got the author wrong.I have never heard of this
book .It also did not come on the computer when I asked for it at the reception
of our mosque.Somebody else must have written that book, unless it is made
up.Also, if population is nothing then why do you people measure it.Ofcoarse
it means something.Allah would not let our pop grow this fast if we were
lyers.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Monday, February 16, 1998 at 12:21:09 (EST)
RASHID. I am suprised by you.Not onlyare you an impulsive
lyer who is to burn in hell but you also alter messages given by Ahmadies.On
one occasion you have even put a different name from the one I posted.You
really are mad.Also, Islam had not spread over 3 continents until very
recently.The number of muslims in Islams first hundred years grew by 11
million.Ahmadiyat has grown 14 million in 100 years.Please do not alter
this message.I think I might as well tell you from now that a Anti Racist
marches have already begun in North America.The number of racist attacks
have dropped by 10 %.Your turn will arrive.Robert told me to write that
in one of my postings.His internet is not working.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Monday, February 16, 1998 at 12:12:40 (EST)
Mirzai Followers - What you Mirzais have achieved in hundred
years as compared to early Islam. Which was spread over three continents
in such a old times. You only given bad name to your country when apply
for refugee to get the green cards. It is business for Mirza Tahir to paint
badly the muslim countries and get his people settled in west and then
impose murabbes on them to grind the money from them in dollars pounds
and marks. Very cunning indeed. But how long he will live this life with
his fake potiff-ship. He will meet Allah(swt) soon and will be asked about
the wrong path he lead his followers. Mirza Ghulam's awefull death is a
sign big enough for wise. Mirza ghulam had claimed to be masiah but achieved
nothing to put the people of the world back on track. His record is clear
trait for his fake-ness. What it matters if you are four millions or fourteen
millions. Nothing at all. Go and earn and pay Mirza Tahir. you will get
no-where.
Abrar Khan <AK@maillink.com>
NZ - Monday, February 16, 1998 at 04:58:50 (EST)
It seems to me this all mail was sended by one to one
same reciever. What a Joke of the day. Toronto time 1122 pm.
Mr. abc <n.a>
Can - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 23:23:57 (EST)
Mr. Tony Heartly Looks like that you are NEW GAY in the
town. Do you have a Qadiani Boy Friend yet/ Or You are gona have realtionship
with MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. Try Mirza Tahir Because OLD is GOLD & He has
Direct access to "SHAITAN"
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 21:31:36 (EST)
Mr. Tony Heartly Looks like that you are NEW GAY in the
town. Do you have a Qadiani Boy Friend yet/ Or You are gona have realtionship
with MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. Try Mirza Tahir Because OLD is GOLD & He has
Direct access to "SHAITAN"
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 21:31:32 (EST)
Mirza Shimar (Hamjeed Qadiani MURTADD) So you are very
happy that QADIANIS are Growing Just like Snakes and BITCHES. I heard thsi
is because that some QADIANI MALES also get pregnant and give births (Dont
forget that MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB USED TO GET MENSES), through his A.S.S.
(Mirza Ghulam Kazib has mentioned that in his own book).
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 21:25:26 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd alias MIRZA SHIMAR Hamjeed Murtadd
You cannot hide yourself, behind any name even if you call yourself MIRZA
DOG, or MIRZA PIG or MIRZA BITCH etc etc. I can recognize a QADIANI LIKE
you even if you are hiding in the GUTTER or IN THE TOILET. You are boasting
about QADIANI NUMBERS Growing? Brother OBSERVER gave very GOOD rather EXCELLENT
example of QADIANI GROWTH. Did you read his answer? Read it and dip your
nose Into my pee I have some EXTRA too if you want for your QADIANI PANDAT
MIRZA TAHIR TOO. Read what Brother Barbarian Khan Said. If you have little
bit of shame, you should repent from Qadiani Fitnah, and come back to your
senses. You will save your 10% you are giving to Mirza Tahir Kazib + Your
AKHIRAH.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 21:19:50 (EST)
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT AHMADDIES ARE, BUT HAVING READ
THIS PAGE, I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THE AHMADDIES HAVE MORE RESPECT IN LANGUAGE
AND DO NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE, WHICH IS A MERE SIGN OF HONESTY AND TRUTHFULNESS
TONY HEARTLY <IQ1D1928@LMU.AC.UK>
UK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 20:39:41 (EST)
Assalamualikum, Brother you have done an excellent job.
May Allah reward you for our efforts. I always run into problems with these
different types of "liars" on campus. This site has hlped me alot. Jazakallah
khair, wsalam Tayyab Yunus
Tayyab Yunus <tayyab786@bigfoot.co>
USA - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 12:07:21 (EST)
· Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's son says "Our prayers are
separate from Non-ahmadis, it is forbidden to give our girls to them, we
are stopped to offer their funeral prayers. Now what is left that we can
participate with them? There are only two kinds of relations - religious
and worldly. For religious relations, it is the gathering for prayers and
for worldly relations, it is the marriage and both are forbidden for us."
(Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam, Kalimat alFasl p.169)
Barbarian Khan <observor@hotmail.com>
AZ - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:23:35 (EST)
In their propaganda literature Ahmadiyya Movement boasts
of their founder's love and praise for Allah. Following quotations from
his books reveal that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's WAHI (revelation) and INSPIRATIONS
have been directing him in an altogether different direction "I saw in
my vision that I myself am God and believed that it is true . . . . Godhood
penetrated my tissues . . .and in this state I was saying that We want
a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created heavens and earth . ." (Roohani
Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood revealed his
condition that the State of Revelation came upon him in such a manner as
if he is a woman and God has expressed His power of Virility. Hint is enough
for those who can understand." (Tract No.34, Islami Qurbani p.12 by Qazi
Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close associate of Mirza Ghulam) (SubhanAllah|
Accusing Allah of Homosexuality| May Allah protect us from such wild imaginations.)
Barbarian Khan <observor@hotmail.com>
AZ - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:17:28 (EST)
Firstly, Jesus is dead.He himself cannot possibly come
in the same form ever again .He is dead.Once you are dead you are dead,
you cannot come back to life as you people think Jesus will.So, somebody
could only come in the SPIRIT of Jesus, as Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam
did.Also, there is no book written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam called
Anjam-e-Atham.It shows you have made this all up.I looked for it in 5 libraries
and it is not on the list of books written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam.Even
if it did exist, which it doesn't, I noticed that you have not mentioned
the page number where this stuff is written.It is quite obviously made
up by you.And Mr.Thinker, stop lying and this goes to you as well Qadiani
Buster ( Rashid Ali). Allah knows who lyes and if you do not shut up you
will be thrown into the hell fire.Please stop for your own good.And anyway,
if Ahmadiyat was really wrong then why would Allah let us grow from 40
people to 14million people in just 100 years.Even Islam did not spread
that fast.Even Christianity did not spread that fast.Nothing has yet spread
this fast.If we are such lyers, then tell me, why would Allah let us prosper.
Mirza Shimar <xx>
USA - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:07:59 (EST)
God's destiny has moved and Heaven will surely exhibit
a sign Today not one Lekhram, but hundreds and thousands of Lekhram have
been born This is the year of Slaughtering of Lekhram and the year of Utilization
of God's dagger (Friday Khutba of Mirza Tahir Ahmad at Islamabad in Tilford
UK, dated 18th April 1997. AlFazl International, 6th June 1997, 23 Edition,
vol. 4) This a controversy or hypocrisy I couldn,t understand. As Mirza
ghulam was preaching anti Jehad and supporting the Britishers in his life
and his mischivious descedent Mirza Tahir is claiming 97 the year of slaughtering.
And you qadiani authors should know that Mirza tahir claimed only 97 as
year of Mubahila. And year of Slaughtering. What a MUNAFAQAT is it. Wassalam
to people of Haddayya
Barbarian Khan <observor@hotmail.com>
AZ - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 09:03:41 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Sahib. You say Mirza Kazib Sahib did not
write AnjaM-E-Atham. Would you please tell me who is the author of this
book. And your second point is of growth of Qadiani population. Whats your
opinion about growth of Iblees. You are saying of 100 years Mr multiplication
of devil was faster. I am not using any abusive language just to clearfy
you I waould like to tell you about reproductive growth of bitches they
have six puppies in six months. Almighty Allah is creator of all universe.
He gives shelter. Food and livings to every creature. If prosperity and
poulation is the critaria of truth then Pharoah and KAROON were more richer
and powerfull then prophets. If reproduction rate is critaria then bitches
and snakes reproduce more rapidly.I have seen one good thing in Muslims
that they never blame someone. Here all Qadianists are blaming eachother.
They never thinks on what way they are going. For your kind information
Anjam e Atham is the book of Mirza Kazib Sahib. Try to find it. Actually
your Pandats do not want that you should read every writing of Mirza Kazib
Sahib. Though Mirza Kazib was a great twister and liar but he was somewhat
stupid too. Sometimes he writes so stupidly that no one believes that a
person who claims prophethood and Messiah hood may write this . But it
is ALLAH who lets down a liar by his own deeds. Mirza Kazib sahib wrote
many letters to Governor general of India and those letters are hieght
of flattery. Mirza Kazib sahib wrote aot of about Hazarat Jesus christ
AS and in that he used very rude wording for a prophet. Mirza Kazib ghulam
sahib was also victim of bigotry too. Even in interpretation of Koranic
verses he was not known what was hw writting. Actually he was not more
than a pet dog of Britishers. Here Muslims are very true.
Thinker <thinker@think.com>
Ca - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 08:48:48 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Did you read the facts written
by brother Haji Ali, not your Ali QADIANI MURTADD, who is following and
praising "IBLIS" all the time, and for that he get paid for by Laanati
MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. May LAANAT be upon all of you MURTADDS.
Qadiani Buster <QB@HARAMI MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 06:40:46 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Looks like that the "DRUGS" given
to you by Laanati Mirza Tahir Has impaired your Brains, and you are completly
brain demaged. Now you are denying the books written by Laanati MIRZA GHULAM
KAZIB (IBLIS IN DISGUISE). Just tell me About the Death of MIRZA GHULAM
KAZIB? If that S.O.B (MIRZA GHULAM Kazib) was a prophet, why did he die
in such a disgrace (WITH S,H,I,T, in his mouth). Is that the way a prophet
dies? Also what happened to his debate with "ATHEM"? He challanged that
"ATHEM" is gona die first (In the Life of MIRZA LAANATI GHULAM KAZIB),
But , ALLAH-O-AKBAR, Your Laanati Mirza Ghulam Kazib (Gay) died in utter
disgrace (WITH S,H,I,T in his mouth). Isnt that enough for you MURTADDS
to learn and repent. Look at the MANHOOS face of MIRZA TAHIR, Isn't that
the face of the grandson of a MURTADD prophet (I MEAN THE GRANDSON OF IBKLIS
MIRZA). Hamjeed MURTADD I gurantee you that YOU are gona die the same way
MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB died, with Cholera, and S,H,I,T in your mouth. and that
S,H,I,T, is gona be from TICHI TICHI (Shaitan) too. INSHA ALLAH
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 06:34:21 (EST)
Firstly, Jesus is dead.He himself cannot possibly come
in the same form ever again .He is dead.Once you are dead you are dead,
you cannot come back to life as you people think Jesus will.So, somebody
could only come in the SPIRIT of Jesus, as Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam
did.Also, there is no book written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam called
Anjam-e-Atham.It shows you have made this all up.I looked for it in 5 libraries
and it is not on the list of books written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam.Even
if it did exist, which it doesn't, I noticed that you have not mentioned
the page number where this stuff is written.It is quite obviously made
up by you.And Mr.Thinker, stop lying and this goes to you as well Qadiani
Buster ( Rashid Ali). Allah knows who lyes and if you do not shut up you
will be thrown into the hell fire.Please stop for your own good.And anyway,
if Ahmadiyat was really wrong then why would Allah let us grow from 40
people to 14million people in just 100 years.Even Islam did not spread
that fast.Even Christianity did not spread that fast.Nothing has yet spread
this fast.If we are such lyers, then tell me, why would Allah let us prosper.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 04:24:03 (EST)
Mr. Hamjeed Have bit respect for yourself, Talk to those
from whom you expect something.
ALi <n.a>
Can - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 22:39:29 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Sahib Can you answer these QUESTIONS?
When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, founder of Ahmadiyya Movement claimed
to be the Promised Messiah and Mehdi, he was reminded about the return
of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus Christ) from Heavens. According to Muslim
faith, Hazrat Isa (Jesus) will descend from Heavens in Damascus and alongwith
Imam Mahdi will work for the propagation of Islam. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad denied
the truthfulness of such Muslim faith. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad rejected the
fundamental Muslim doctrine of Second coming of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam.
Rather he said that Hazrat Isa has died his natural death and even located
his grave in Khanyar Street, Srinagar, Kashmir. Mirza Sahib wrote a book
"Jesus in India" where he gave a detailed account of what had actually
happened at the Cross. According to him Jesus was put to the Cross by the
Jews on Friday; Jesus fainted and jews thought that He is dead. He was
buried but three days later He regained conciousness and came out of the
grave. He was 33 years old at that time. He met His disciples and secretly
migrated to India. where he died at the age of 120 years. Let us have a
look at the following extracts from this book "Hence, I shall prove in
this book that Jesus (Peace be upon him) did not die on the Cross neither
did he go up to the Heavens nor it should ever be hoped that he will return
to the earth from the Heavens; rather, he died at the age of 120 years
in Srinagar in Kashmir, and his grave is in the Khanyar Region of Srinagar."
(Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p. 14) "Authentic narrations
of Hadith prove that our Holy Prophet (pbuh) said that Maseeh lived upto
the age of 120 years. And this is ACCEPTED by ALL THE SECTS of ISLAM that
in the person of Jesus two such qualities were combined which were not
present in any other Prophet. Firstly, that HE LIVED HIS FULL LIFE i.e.
he was alive for 125 years. Secondly, He toured most of the parts of the
world . . . . . now it is obvious if he had ascended to Heavens at the
age of only 33 years, then the Tradition of 125 years would not have been
correct, neither he could have toured at such a young age of 33. These
Traditions are not only mentioned in the authentic and ancient books of
Hadith, but they are so popular among all the sects of Muslims that none
can be imagined more famous." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein {Messiah in India},
Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 55-56) Christian Era (AD) begins with the birth
of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus) in 1 AD. Hazrat Isa according to Mirza
Sahib died at the age of 120 years, meaning 120 AD. Now let us examine
the following extract from "Anjam-e-Atham" written by Mirza Sahib "The
Holy Quran clearly says that the Masih was lifted to the heavens after
his death. Therefore his descent is symbolic and not real. And in the verse
'Falamma Tawaffeteni' it has been clearly manifested that death of Hazrat
Isa (pbuh) has already taken place. Because the meaning of the verse is
that the Christians will go astray after the death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh)
and not during his lifetime. So if we assume that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) is
not yet dead, then we will have to agree that the Christians are not yet
digressed, and this is absolutely false. Rather the verse is saying that
the Christians remained faithful only until the life-time of Hazrat Isa
(pbuh). From this it becomes known that corruption had already begun during
the time of Disciples. If the period of the Disciples had been such that
the Christians had still been on right path, then in this verse Allah would
not have linked it with the life-time of Hazrat Isa(pbuh) only, but would
have included the life time of the Disciples as well. Thus at this juncture
a very good point of the period of corruption in Christianity is illustrated
and which is that IN TRUTH, during the time of the Disciples itself, the
seeds of SHIRK (associating partner with God) were sown in Christianity.
(Anjam-e-Atham, Roohani Khazain vol.11 p.321) THE IMPORTANT POINTS FROM
THE ABOVE EXTRACT ARE Mirza Saheb gives prove from Hadith that Hazrat Isa
died at the age of 125. The Christians were on right path only during the
life time of Hazrat Isa. He was not made God or son of God during his life
time. Seeds of SHIRK (Trinity) were sown after the death of Hazrat Isa.
Till the life time of Hazrat Isa there is no possibility of such a digression.
Mirza Ghulam is quoting the verse "Falamma Tawaffeteni" (5117) from Quran
implying that Allah is guaranteeing protection of such corruption during
the life of Hazrat Isa only. Since Mirza Sahib has stated in his book "Jesus
in India" that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD, therefore sowing the seeds of
Association of Partners with Allah (i.e. Trinity) could not have take place
before 120 AD. This means that Hazrat Isa was made God and son of God only
after 120 A.D. Before 120 A.D. not even one man can have this faith that
Hazrat Isa is God or son of God. Thus the year of 120 A.D. became a turning
point. Now let us examine some extracts from Another book of Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad, Chashma-e-Masihi (Roohani Khazain volume 20) "All the bad things
were introduced in this religion (Christianity) by Paul. Hazrat Isa was
such an unselfish person that He did not even want anyone to call him a
pious man but Paul made him God." (Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain vol.20
p.375) "And in the very first instance, he (Paul) implanted the bad seedling
of Trinity in Damascus. And this Pauline Trinity started from Damascus.
It is towards this that Hadith Shareef has hinted that the future Maseeh
will descend on the eastern side of Damascus." (Chashma-e-Maseehi, Roohani
Khazain vol.20 p.377) In this book, Chasma-e-Masihi, Mirza Sahib has clearly
stated that St. Paul was responsible for the doctrine of Holy Trinity and
thus turning Hazrat Isa into God. It is a well known fact that St. Paul
died in 64 AD or 67 AD. 'The 100' gives the year of his death as 64 AD.
Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics says "That he suffered martyrdom at
Rome there can be no doubt. . . . the date will lie between A.D. 64 and
67, most probably nearer the former than the later limit." (Encyclopedia
vol.9 p. 694) FINAL ARGUMENTS 1.In the book "Jesus in India" Mirza Sahib
proved that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD. 2.In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" ,
Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that the seeds of Trinity were not sown
until 120 A.D. 3.In the book "Anjam -e-Atham" , Mirza Sahib has clearly
said that St. Paul made Hazrat Isa God. 4.Paul died in 64 or 65 A.D. where
as Hazrat Isa died in 120 A.D. Therefore Paul died at least 55 years before
Hazrat Isa. 5.Since Paul must have given the doctrine of Trinity during
his life time, this means that Hazrat Isa was made God at least 55 years
before His own death. In other words by 65 A.D. Hazrat Isa was made God/Son
of God while he died 55 years later in 120 A.D. 6.While he (Jesus) was
alive in Kashmir, he was being worshipped as God in Palestine. 7.Thus Mirza
Sahib's commentary on Holy Quran's verse 5117 (Falamma Tawaffetenni) in
his book "Anjam-e-Atham" that Christians made Hazrat Isa God after the
death of Hazrat Isa in 120 A.D. becomes absolutely wrong. Is this a small
mistake for a man claiming to have been divinely ordained to be a Messiah,
a Mahdi and a Prophet? Such grevious error? So obviously and utterly wrong|
So conclusively wrong| If Mirza Sahib were alive and this question had
been put to him, could he have said "I am a human being and I can make
mistakes". Mirza Sahib had claimed help of Allah in these arguments. Can
Allah be wrong? No| only the claim of Mirza Sahib is wrong. If he can be
wrong in one thing, what proof is there that he is not wrong in other things.
The idea of this whole exercise of trying to prove that Hazrat Isa (pbuh)
is dead was to establish his claim of being the Promised Messiah and Mahdi.
His argument is that since Hazrat Isa is dead he will not return, because
it is against the principals of Allah. Someone else will take up the role
of Hazrat Isa and that someone is Mirza Saheb himself. Above arguments
prove conclusively that he (Mirza Ghulam) could not sustain his claim of
being Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. Therefore he is not Imam Mahdi
and the Promised Messiah. As a corollary he is not a Prophet, because a
true Prophet will not make a false claim. Q.E.D. ANOTHER INTERESTING POINT
It is written by Qadianis in Tafseer of Quran Majeed that Hazrat Isa kept
a careful watch over his followers as long as he was alive. Did he really
keep a careful watch as long as he was alive specially in Palestine and
Rome were Paul made him God and son of God? According to Mirza Sahib, Hazrat
Isa at the age of 33 was put on the Cross after which he fled Palestine
for good. HE SECRETLY MIGRATED TO INDIA and remained alive for 87 more
years and died at the age of 120 in Srinagar, Kashmir. He kept no contact
with the people of Palestine for these 87 years. People in Palestine did
not know that Hazrat Isa was alive in Kashmir and Hazrat Isa did not know
that the people in Palestine had begun to worship him as God and son of
God. Therefore in the original land where he was sent as Messenger (Palestine)
and where he was made God/son of God, he kept careful watch only till the
age of 33 and for the remaining 87 years of his life he kept no watch over
them at all. What a glaring mistake| Remember All this is Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad Qadiani's assertions and we have only his words for them. WILL THE
QADIANIS, HIS Followers, KINDLY CLARIFY THE ABOVE POINTS OR RECTIFY THEIR
BELIEF? May Allah help them to understand what is right and what is wrong
and give them the courge to follow the right path. Ameen. All praise to
Allah. His Love and Peace be upon His Noble Prophet, Hazrat Muhammad and
upon His family and Companions.. May ALLAH clean your Heart and brain and
Put you on the Right Path, and save you from Mirza Tahir's Mafia.
Haji Ali <ali@hotmail.com>
UK - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 14:44:44 (EST)
Qadianis. This is no answer of signs of Mahdi. If you
think it all is made up then why not all writtings of Mirza Kazib Sahib
are. Think before you speak. The best way is run Qadiani run. Liars never
have any footings. Mirza Kazib Sahib was a liar now its proved.
Thinker <thinker@think.com>
Ca - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 09:48:11 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Do you know that ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI
is also GAY. But He is High Class gay, who only have affairs with your
MIRZA TAHIR SINGH. Thats the way HE (ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI) got his green
card. If you dont believe it Go and ask MIRZA TAHIR SINGH and ABDUL AZIZ
QADIANI. He will tell you.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 07:58:17 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd I have told you again and again
that You are GAY, Just Like MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB.Being married and having
children does not stop yyou being GAY in the QADIANI CULT. Because that
is MIRZA"S WAY. The Children You are talking about , They DONT Belong to
you. You can ask your wife. If she is honest, She will tell you the truth,
that The KIDS belong to some one else. She even told that to one of her
very closed friend. Just like Some one , a closed friend of yours, told
me about you. DONT forget that since you have to follow MIRZA'S WAY, so
you have to be a GAY. I TOLD you that is the reason MIRZA GHULAM'S A.S.S.
used to bleed , but he twisted the facts and told you guys that HE (MIRZA
LAAANATI) used to have menses. And fools like you, Abdul Aziz Murtadd,
Maryam Murtaddah, Usman Murtadd etc etc believed in that. Some time MIRZA
GHULAM said that IT WAS "TICHI TICHI" who had rough SEX with MIRZA, that
Made HIS (MIRZA GHULAM'S) A.S.S. bleed. Do you GUYS SAY the Same , when
YOUR A.S.S.e.s. bleed? I am wondering. Get the answer from ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD
and USMAN MURTADD, waraich Murtadd, Ali Murtadd and let me know. I would
appreciate that.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 07:50:36 (EST)
Usman Qadiani Murtadd You CHICKEN, Coward, Murtadd. You
do not wana face the truth? That is QADIANI Way. That is the teaching of
Your Mirza Tahir Singh, so the MURTADDS like you should not Listen to the
MUSLIMS, lest they will come to their senses, and HE (MIRZA TAHIR SINGH)
will loose his 10%. LAANAT on Your Chief MURTADD MIRZA TAHIR SINGh and
his Murtadd Followers Like you. ALLAH (SWT) says that when the people do
not wana listen "I PUT BLOCK ON THEIR HEARTS & BRAINS" so nothing can
Go in Other than Lies and Sghaitan's teachings. Thats what HAPPENED TO
MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. At the time of his Miserable and shameful death, even
HIS TONGUE was Blocked so HE (LAANATI MIRZA) could not even repent. (ALLAH-O-AKBAR).
Usman MURTADD, Just learn from Your LAANATI MIRZA'S MISERABLE and Shameful
Death That is enough for you to learn if you have any SHAME.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 07:39:44 (EST)
No Qadiani Buster.I am not GAY.I am married and have children.Does
this mean I am gay.Also, you are a lyer,you do not know anybody who knows
me.It shows what a lyer you are.It happens to be against Islam to lie.So
maybe you should be the MURTARDS from now on.Also, I am not surprised that
you are not mentioning the names of the places where the signs of mubahila
are written.YOU MADE THEM UP.We are not as stupid as you at least.Also,
you cannot say to us that we are loosing our Ground.If we are loosing our
ground then how come the total population of Ahmadies has risen from a
mere 40 people to a massive 14million in 100 years.No other religion or
sect has ever grown this fast in the history of the world.There are now
also, more ahmadies than jews
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 06:05:04 (EST)
I request all Ahmadi writers "Just DO NOT write on this
page. Let these people say whatever they want to. They gona keeps saying
bad to Hazrat Massieh-e-Moud allai-his- salam anyway. So why to give them
invitation.
Usman <n.a>
Pk - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 23:18:00 (EST)
It will be a wise decission of Ahmadis not to write on
this page.
Usman <n.a>
Pk - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 22:35:09 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Some on e from your CULT has told me that
You are GAY. The person who told me knows you very well. He also told me
that you have crush on Chief Qadini Pandat "MIRZA TAHIR SINGH". Is that
true? I will wait for you answer.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 22:21:51 (EST)
Brother THINKER May ALLAH (SWT) Bless you and your family,
and LAANAT on MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB and his follers like AbdulAziz Qadiani,
Maryam Murtaddah, Hamjeed Qadiani, etc etc.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 22:04:11 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd The SIGNS of MEHDI I have mentioned,
are absolutly . 100% Correct. As mentioned in the very authenticated BOOKS
OF ISLAM (I am not giving this references from any TY BOOKs OF MIRZA GHULAM
KAZIB). My Father TOLD me the exact events of the MISERABLE and HORRIBLE
DEATH OF YOUR S.H.I.T.T.Y MIRZA KAZIB. That is in the History that MIRZA
GHULAM was the Only DISGRACED PERSON who died in such a disgrace (WITH
S.H.I.T.) in his mouth. The whole MUSLIM UMMAH knows this Disgraceful Death
of YOUR S.H.I.T.T.Y MIRZA. As I have explained Before that Since Your MIRZA
GHULAM WAS a GAY, May be some body Pushed his .........(DILDO) so vigorously
into his (MIRZA'S) A.S.S. that the S.H.I.T. came out of HIS Mouth . There
is another Theory that That "IBLEES" (Shaitan) Got so mad at Mirza ( Because
Shaitan thought that MIRZA SUPERseded him in his work) Thats why the SHAITAN
PUT HIS S.H.I.T. into your MIRZA's Mouth when he (MIRZA) died. To Me this
looks true too. What do you think HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD. We call you
QADIANIS "MURTADDS" because You are MURTADDS, Declared by all the Muslim
Ummah.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 21:59:58 (EST)
Qadiani buster All those signs of mahdi which you have
written are made up.You either made them up onj the spot or most probably
your lying parents told you.Whereas the sruff which I mentioned is either
in Hadith or Quran so you cannot deny it.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Friday, February 13, 1998 at 12:12:38 (EST)
I deliberately used Rashid Ali's name then.I used that
name because I aimed the message at him.I apologise if I caused any confusion.But
please stop abusing my parents.It is against Islam to do that.So in that
case you people are not Muslims.So maybe your the MURTARDS
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Friday, February 13, 1998 at 12:06:42 (EST)
Qadianis. You are loosing your ground. I am the person
who reads every comment about Mirza Kazib Sahib. A person who is writting
with the name of Qadiani buster is reaction of your behaviour. Yesterday
you were using the same language with different names of Ali, Amir, Nawaz,
Ahmadi, Boris etc. Actually his language is response of your language.
But his knowledge is stronger then you.You qadianis have no footings. What
you say that all is twisted. Most of the material present in your websites
based on same strategy. Your essays have no knowledge. Sometimes you add
the PUKH in simple logic. Your affiliations with nonmuslims is negative
point for you. My group of friends is neutral. Personnaly my opinion was
different. But after reading you Qadianis and some Muslim authors for a
long I have realized you tottaly based on a lie. As I don't want to use
any uncivil word for Mirza Kazib Sahib.But frankly this person was not
on right path. The stories about his death with epidemic disease of cholera
is very true. The deny from this universal truth shows how wrong you people
are. One should accept the truth and it is not old story. My grand father
who
died a few years before his father thats my grand grand father was alive
when Mirza Kazib Sahib died. Therefore we know all his truth. These Muslim
brothers are right founder of Qadianism was died with cholera in toilet
and his conditions were not good.My father has told us this truth in our
childhood. Therefore its not wrong that Mirza Kazib Sahib died with miserable
condition in dirty toilet and his was in his mouth.Our elders told us that
when one liar dies a bad smell comes out from his body and they give us
the example of Mirza Kazib ghulam sahib.My advice to you is to forgive
this evil path of Qadianism. At a momment you have a chance. Avail it.
Its good oppertunity. Thats it.
Thinker <thinker@think.com>
Ca - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 09:53:41 (EST)
ALI QADIANI MURTADD You mother is a Prostitute (Blessed
By MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI) I see her standing at the intersection of Jane
& Finch avenues. Sometime SHE does have a SPECIAL (TWO for the Price
of ONE). If you dont believe it, Ask your Mama. Any how , She told me that
SHE (YOUR MAMA) used to be a super model. But In this business she find
more fun. and aslo MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB approved this business for her (That's
what she said).
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 06:09:15 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani A few months ago I have posted many
messages on this guestbook discussing the word 'Khatamul-Nibiyyeen' and
all its contexts providing all the references from Quran and at length.
But when people like you are riding on the ship of Qadiani cult you don't
accept anything and cann't see the truth. The twisted logic which you are
trying to produce can also be used by papal of Rome and he can say that
he can prove his papacy from Quran and therefore can insist that muslims
should follow him. Mirza G.A and Mirza T.A Qadiani are simply leading you
astray unless you farsake them untill that time you will live in pain of
qadianism and there is no rescue for you from this corrupt cult belief.
May Allah guide you back to the true path(amin).
Khalid Ismail <n/a>
USA - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 05:28:47 (EST)
I think all Ahmadi should stop writing on this page.
Usman <n.a>
Pak - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 01:38:14 (EST)
Mr. Waraich, You Got that right.
Ali <n.a>
Can - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 01:32:24 (EST)
Well, Mr. Ali, It is not really disappointing, you see
atleast he has LOVE of country. Despite the fact purpose is to show something
else. Ustagfarullah, who is making Fun? Human should never feel shame to
do any type of employment. I think Jarvis & Church intersection would
be more better. Well, let him decide himself. Or may be his Guru Rashid
would waved hand on his back. Who knows? Toronto is big city.
A. Waraich <rather not>
Can - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 01:30:20 (EST)
Buster is a prostitute, standing naked and waving Canadian
flag in mid-intersection of Jane & Finch Avenues. What can you expect?
Indeed Nothing.
Ali <n.a>
Can - Friday, February 13, 1998 at 01:19:03 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani You are telling other people that how
they have been raised. But Do you know that how did I raised you? First
of all let me tell you that You were not born from ME. your mother fooled
around with some one in our neighborhood. What you mother admitted in front
of me that it was only one night stand. and That Guy who is your actual
father was a junky, druggy and alcoholic. I know that has a genetis effect
on you being. that's one of the reason you became "MURTADD". I dont blame
you for that. It is all your mother's fault. You are telling people that
you are a man? I dont think so my boy. I know you very well. How the Big
boys in our neiborhood used to take you in hidings. and everytime you came
back home, you PAJAMA was wet and your A.S.S, was bleeding just like MIRZA
GHULAM QADIANI. So please dont try to boast. I know you very well. Why
are you confusing Brother Dr. Rashid with Brother Qadiani Buster? Looks
like that the Drugs and allcohol in your genes (FROM YOUR REAL FATHER)
has impaired your brains. S.H.I.T. in the Brains? Only MIRZA GHULAM QADIANI
had this kind of genetic structure, nobody else had and nobody else can
have it other than MIRZA GHULAM'S FAMILY. So My ILLEGITIMATTE SON ABDUL
AZIZ QADIANI , just calm down, otherwise I have to tell the people your
reality. and I know even your MIRZA TAHIR would not like to hear the truth
either. After HE (MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD) come to know the trurh about you,
he will kick your A.S,S, out of Qadiani Jamaat, and you will loose your
GREEN CARD.
Aziz Qadiani'S PAPA <MIRZA@Shit.con>
CA - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:38:55 (EST)
asslam alikum thank you for shedding light on these people
keep up the good work may we all stay on the right path,inshallah
saki <none>
usa - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:35:22 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd & Maryam Murtaddah Tell me
if any of these Signs of IMAM MEHDI fits on LAANAT MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB According
to these reliable, authentic, and universally accepted narrations, Mahdi
will 1.Be from among the family of Prophet(SAW), among the descendants
of Fatima; 2.Have a broad forehead and pointed noise; 3.Appear in one night;
4.Appear just before the day of judgment; 5.Have same name as hazrat Muhammad(SAW);
6.Escape from Madina to Makkah where people will pledge allegiance to him;
7.Receive pledge and help of Iraqi people; 8.Fight in battles; 9.Rule over
the Arabs for seven years according to Sunnah; 10.Spread justice and equity
on earth; 11.Eradicate tyranny and oppression; 12.Lead a prayer in Mekkah
which Jesus(pbuh) will follow in; 13.NOT be the same individual as the
Promised Messiah (Jesus). The following narrations have been taken from
books on which there is no consensus among Muslim scholars. Their authenticity
is in question. The holy Prophet(SAW) said "The world will not come to
an end until a man from my family (ahl al-bayt), who will be called al-Mahdi,
emerges to rule upon my community." (Bihar al-anwar, Vol. 51, P. 75; Ithbat
al-hudat, Vol. 1, P. 9) Umme Salmah(RA), the wife of the Prophet, has related
a tradition of the Prophet(SAW) "Mahdi will be among my progeny, among
the children of Fatima." (Bihar al-anwar, Vol. 51, P. 75) Rasullullah(SAW)
said "The world will not come to an end until a man from the descendants
of Hussain takes charge of the affairs of the world and fills it with justice
and equity as it is filled with injustice and tyranny." (Bihar al-anwar,
Vol. 51, P. 66) Abu Sa'id al-Khudari(RA) has related a tradition from the
Prophet(SAW) who declared "The earth will be filled with injustice and
corruption. At that time, a man from among my progeny will rise and will
rule for seven or nine years and will fill the earth with justice and equity."
(Ahmad b. Hanbal, Musnad, Vol. 3, P. 27) Abu al-Hujaf(RA) quotes the Prophet(SAW)
saying three times "Listen to the good news about the Mahdi| He will rise
at the time when people will be faced with severe conflict and the earth
will be hit by a violent quake. He will fill the earth with justice and
equity as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will fill the hearts
of his followers with devotion and will spread justice everywhere." (Bihar
al-anwar, Vol. 51, P. 74) Ali b. Abi Talib(RA) said, I asked the Prophet(SAW)
"Is Mahdi going to be among our own family or from some other?" He replied
"He will be among us. God will conclude His religion through him, just
as He began it with us. It will be through us that people will find refuge
from sedition, just as it was through us that they were saved from polytheism.
Moreover, it will be through us that God will bring their hearts together
in brotherhood following the animosity sown by the sedition, just as they
were brought together in brotherhood in their religion after the animosity
sown by polytheism." (Bihar al-anwar, Vol. 51, P. 84; Ithbat al-hudat,
Vol. 7, P. 191; Majma` al-zawa'id by `Ali b. Abi Bakr Haythami (Cairo edition),
Vol. 7, P. 317) I heard the Prophet(SAW) declare from the pulpit "The Mahdi
from among my descendants, from my family, will rise at the End of Time,
while the heavens will pour rain and the earth will bring forth green grass
for him. He will fill the earth with justice and equity as it is filled
with tyranny and injustice." (Bihar al-anwar, Vol. 51, P. 74; Ithbat al-hudat,
Vol. 7, P. 9) Abu Sa'id al-Khudari(RA) narrated that Prophet(SAW) said
"Severe calamity from the direction of their ruler will befall my people
during the Last Days. It will be a calamity which, in severity, shall be
unprecedented. It will be so violent that the earth with injustice and
corruption will shrivel for its inhabitants. The believers will not find
refuge from oppression. At that time God will send a man from my family
to fill the earth with justice and equity just as it is filled with injustice
and tyranny. The dwellers of the heavens and the earth will be pleased
with him. The earth will bring forth all that grows for him, and the heavens
will pour down rains in abundance. He will live among the people for seven
or nine years. From all the good that God will bestow on the inhabitants
of the earth, the dead will wish to come to life again." (Ibn Hajar, al-Sawa'iq
al-muharriqa, P. 161; Yanabi' al-mawadda, Vol. 2, P. 177) Abu Hurayra(RA)
narrated on behalf of the Prophet(SAW) "People will pay allegiance to the
Mahdi between rukn and maqam (in Mekkah)." (Ibn Tawus, Kitab al-malahim
wa al-fitan, P. 64.) According to these hadith, Mahdi will 1.Be from the
Family of Prophet(SAW) and descend from Hussain(RA), son of Fatima(RA);
2.Appear at the end of time; 3.Appear when earth is filled with injustice
and tyranny and believers are severely oppressed; 4.Appear when a severe
earthquaker will occur and green grass will grow (presumably in Arabia);
5.Fill the earth with justice and equity; 6.Spread brotherhood, equity,
and devotion among Muslims; 7.Rule over Muslim community, according to
Hadith, for seven or nine years; 8.Live and act with the qualities of the
holy Prophet(SAW). The following are narrations not attribute to the Holy
Prophet(SAW) and only represent second hand narrations attributed to companions
of the holy Prophet(SAW). Thus, they are included only for completeness
and are unreliable. Ammar Yasir has related "At the time when Nafs al-Zakiyya
is killed a caller from the heaven will say 'Your commander is so-and-so.'
(announce Mahdi) Following it the Mahdi will emerge and fill the earth
with justice and equity." (Ibn Tawus, Kitab al-malahim wa al-fitan, P.
179) Abd Allah b. Umar mentioned the name of Mahdi in the presence of an
Arab who said Mahdi is Mu'awiya b. Abu Sufyan. Abd Allah said "It is not
as you say. Mahdi is a person behind whom Jesus will offer his prayers."
(Ibn Tawus, Kitab al-malahim wa al-fitan, P. 179) Mujahid said about Mahdi
"One of the Prophet's companions told me that the Mahdi will not appear
until that time when Nafs al-Zakiyya will be killed. At that time he will
take the command and will fill the earth with justice and equity." (Ibn
Tawus, Kitab al-malahim wa al-fitan, P. 171) Nufayl's daughter Umayra narrates
that she heard Hasan b. Ali's daughter saying "This affair about which
you are waiting will not occur until among you some seek to distance themselves
from the others and curse each other." (Majlisi, Bihar al-anwar, Vol. 52,
P. 211) Salma b. Zafar reports that one day people were talking about the
appearance of the Mahdi in the presence of Hudhayfa. Hudhayfa said "If
Mahdi has indeed appeared while you are living close to the Prophet's period
and while his companions are living among you, then you are truly fortunate.
However, that is not the case. Mahdi will not appear until people are devoured
by oppression and tyranny and there is no one absent more beloved and more
needed than him." (Kitab al-hawi li al-fatawa, Vol. 2, P. 159) These narrations
are based on opinion of single individuals and are not reliable. However,
they indicate that Mahdi might 1.Not appear until all Muslims are divided
and curse each other (i.e. no brotherhood); 2.Appear when tyranny and oppression
rule and no Muslim is free; 3.Be announced by a voice from heavens; 4.Fill
the earth with justice and equity; 5.Lead the prayer which Jesus(pbuh)
will follow. The following narration has not been attributed to the Holy
Prophet(SAW). It has been identified as false and has been rejected by
Muslim scholars for centuries. Amr son of Shamer quoted Jabir, who quoted
Mohammed bin Ali to have said "For our Mahdi, there are two signs. Since
the birth of Universe, these events have never taken place. Those two signs
are that there will be Lunar Eclipse on the first night of Ramadhan and
Solar Eclipse in the middle of Ramadhan." (Dar-e-Qatni, Vol. 1, P.188)
Note This narration is not attributed to holy Prophet(SAW), but attributed
to Mohammed bin Ali. No other person has substantiated this alleged statement
of Mohammed bin Ali. Muslim scholars have always rejected this and other
narrations of Amr and Jabir, as both have been known to transmit unreliable
and forged narrations.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:20:13 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster). I have never seen a
more shameless person than you. You do not know even an iota of Islam.
You are a disgrace for Prophet Muhammad (SAS). You are nothing but an ignorant
and paid enemy of Islam. The people who rejoice at your language are in
the same pit. Do you think it is brave to call a woman like what you said
to sister Maryam. Not only you a coward but these arrogant ulema (Rumy,
Fateh Sher, Abrar ) are in the same boat with you. You think you are the
only one in this world to use filthy language? You are mistaken. People
can reply you in the same coin. Tell me what does it take to abuse people
on a web page. It is honor of a person. It is how the parents raised their
children. It is how the religious leaders fashioned the morals. You have
nothing except S.H.I.T. in your brain. Your parents raised you in a filthy
place and you can't say any thing other than that. I am a man, go ahead
and call me by any names you want. But for God sake have some decency when
responding to a woman. When I was a non-Ahmadi I listened to all what your
mullahs said in the mosques about Ahmadiyyat. Nothing but lies, fabrications,
abuses and showed complete lack of understanding Ahmadiyyat. You have picked
up from them. But on the day of judgement you will not get away by saying
that you did what your mullahs taught you. You will pay for it and hopefully
in this very world. Finally, please all non-Ahmadi readers, is it your
conscious/ character that you do not ask one of you to use civil language
for a woman even.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:14:46 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd I know you very well . You are
using Brother Rashid's name. Looks like that your "MAMA" told you to do
so. May be your MAMA likes Brother Rashid too much, But let me tell you
that Brother Rashisd is not that kind of Guy. Tell your MAMA to go to street,
she can find a lot or ask MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB for help. What happened to
your MAMA's old Boy friend? Did he Quit or HE is part time now a days?
Stop USING Brother Rashid's name. Use your MIRZA TAHIR's name. and see
what happens.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 20:03:11 (EST)
Maryam Qadiani Murtaddah You are another example "With
Empty Brains" but Full of S.H.I.T. You said that your British Made masih
maoud said that he (PIGGY MIRZA) would be victorious? You call that VICTORY?
when than "MALOON" Mirza Ghulam Kazib died in Utter Disgrace (WITH S.H.I.T.
in his mouth) and dead body removed by "BHANGIS". What a victory? . What
about when he was eating "WATWANIS" instead of "GUR" and he used to clean
his "DILDO" with "GUR" instead of "WATWANI". You call that Victory? May
Curse of ALLAH be upon you and upon your KAZIB MIRZA OH MARYAM QADIANI
MURTADDAH.
Qadiani Buster <WhoreMaryamQadiani>
PK - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 19:57:34 (EST)
Mr. Abrar Please wait for my response to your question.
I am trying to get the book you mentioned. In the mean time could you answer
my question as to why you encourage the so called 'Qadiani Buster' when
his use of abusive language (without a cause) is clearly prohibited by
Quran. Wassalaam.
Abdul Azia <n,o>
USA - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 17:20:43 (EST)
Hazrat Massieh-e-Moud says I declare with full confidence
and steadfastness that I am in the right and that with the Grace of Allah,
I will emerge Victorious in this struggle. As far as I can observe with
my far-reaching sight, I see the entire world ultimately covered by the
advancing step of my truth. The time is near at hand before I shall gain
a resounding victory. It is so because another voice speaks in support
of what i speak and there another Hand which operates to strengthen my
hand. This is not percieved by the world but I see it. In me vibrates the
voice of a heavenly spirit which instills each word I speak with life.
There is commotion and upsurge in heaven which has fashioned out of a handful
of dust, a puppet figure whose movements are manipulated from on high.
All those upon whom the door of repentance is not yet closed will soon
see that I am not of my own accord. Can they be seeing with eyes which
fail to recognize a man of truth? Can he be deemed alive who has no awareness
of this Heavenly call? Ruhani Khazain Vol.3 p 403
Maryam <n.a>
na - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 16:15:09 (EST)
Bilal W
Bilal w <n.a>
Can - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 15:57:36 (EST)
Mr. Khan, sorry wrong #
Bilala <n.a>
Can - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 15:46:59 (EST)
Also, where did you hear about that revelation.The one
where the promised messiah claimed to be God.You lie too much.You have
to stop if you want to save yourself from the fire.Although i wouldn't
blame you if it was your parents who told you all these lyes.Everyone beleives
their parents.
Rashid Ali <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 14:16:35 (EST)
OK you so alled Qadiani Buster.Let me tell you a few things.First
of all, you are saying that we should not refer to YOUR Quran and only
refer to OUR holy books.Well, this statement you made clearly shows how
little knowledge you have on Ahmadiyat.We have a holy book.This holy book
is called the Quran.I am sure you read it if you consider yourself a muslim.Also,
we do not have a God of our own.We worship the same God as you.That God
is called Almighty Allah. And you are also constantly talking on about
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad dying with in his mouth nousubillah.Whoever told you
this is quite obviously a lyer and anti ahmady( therefor biased) . And
do not say that it is common knowledge because if you think it is common
knowledge that this thing happened you quite obviously do not have any
knowledge. You then ask us to answer your questions when you are refering
to non existing writings of the Promissed Messiah.What do you expect us
to do?If we made up some book writen by yur father and asked you to answer
quetions about it then you would not be able to, because it does not exist.So
if you consider yourself a muslim then please stop lying.You will regret
it on the day of judgement.But if you aren't a muslim then you don't beleive
in the day of judgement and have nothing to worry about.If you are a muslim
then stop spreading lyes.Your doom will arrive just like Iqbal Khans.
Rashid Ali <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 14:12:05 (EST)
AbdulAziz Murtadd Why are you giving references from our
HOLY QURAN? You MURTADDS have nothing to do with QURAN. Just write the
ref. from your Shitty Riihani Khazain and other Books from Laanati MIRZA
GHULAM (Manhhos). and see how we give you the answers. Are you ashemed
to mention the books of Kazib Mirza (The one who died in disgrace "With
S.H.I.T. in his mouth). How come you never discuss the Disgraceful Death
of your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB?
Qadiani Buster <QB@ Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 07:35:01 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Brother IBRAR gave a very eloquent
answer for your question. I think that should be enough to throw S.H.I.T.
on you and on your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. The ref. brother IBRAR quoted is
from The S.H.I.t.T.Y book of MIRZA KAZIB. Now You should be ASHAMED of
your self and of PIGGY MIRZA. This is the TIME FOR YOU TO DIPO YOUR NOSE
and QADIANI FACE INTO MY "PEE" or into Brother IBRAR'S PEE. Laanat on you
Abdul Aziz Murtadd and upon All the QADIANI MURTADDS Like you and also
upon Your Qadiani Pandat MIRZA TAHIR.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 07:30:00 (EST)
Mr. Abdul Aziz. Before propounding your twisted interpretations
of Quran (Which are generated by Mirza and his followers)lets take this
statement of Mirza 'I saw in my vision that I myself am God and believed
that it is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . . . and in this
state I was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created
heavens and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103)' You said in your
previous post that where Mirza said there are other Gods. Is this not a
sufficient proof that he proclaimed himself as God by presenting the above
satanic vision. What justification you can give for the above statement
of Mirza other than that he was limitless in his Kufr. Still I will wait
for your justification.
Abrar Khan <no>
NZ - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 04:00:54 (EST)
Mr. Rahmat Ali and Mr. Ibrar Khan You state that Mirza
Sahib created 'Shirk' and 'Fitna'. Let us take one at atime. Shirk is creating
a god beside God. Please give me a reference from Mirza Sahib's writings
where he has mentioned the other god. I shall expect an answer from you
and not Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster). You also praise Mr. Buster's
comments. Using foul language against any body, unless you do so to retaliate
is against the teachings of Quran. Please tell me why you encourage him
to do things prohibited by Quran. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 23:50:52 (EST)
Mr. Rahmat Ali and Mr. Ibrar Khan You state that Mirza
Sahib created 'Shirk' and 'Fitna'. Let us take one at atime. Shirk is creating
a god beside God. Please give me a reference from Mirza Sahib's writings
where he has mentioned the other god. I shall expect an answer from you
and not Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster). You also praise Mr. Buster's
comments. Using foul language against any body, unless you do so to retaliate
is against the teachings of Quran. Please tell me why you encourage him
to do things prohibited by Quran. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 23:50:41 (EST)
This page is full of trash.
not here <not at this trash
si>
usa - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 22:36:53 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd & AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd
Both of you MURTADDS are beating your A.S.S.E.S. like drum. Why? You are
asking answers for your non sense questions but What about the comments
I mentioned. Did you QADIANIS read that ? Just read those comments, and
answer. If you dont know the answers then ask MURTADD-E-AZAM MIRZA TAHIR
KAZIB, if he wana say something from his "MANHOOS" mouth. If you dont answer
my questions, not only me but all the Muslim Ummah will consider that BOTH
OF YOU (HAMJEED QADIANI & ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI) are GAYS. Brother Ibrar
Khan and brother Rehmat ali , Salam. We really appreciate your useful comments.
I hope these Qadianis (Murtadds) may learn something from that, and stop
giving 10% to Mirza Tahir Al-Kazib.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 20:36:47 (EST)
BR Aziz.... are you still there
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 14:50:59 (EST)
you are absolutely correct brother Aziz.We have t pit
up to it but hopefully insha allah these people will too except the truth
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 14:49:23 (EST)
Br. Hamjeed How can you ask these Dr. Rashid's web page
ulema (Rumy, Fateh Sher, Rashid alias Buster, ...) to not to use abusive
language. What else have they got except foul language. I have provided
reason based on Quran to prove that 'Jehad against the British was not
permitted because they did not wrong Muslims for saying 'Allah is out Lord'.
Also I gave them ayahs proving that Issa (AS) is dead and he will not come
back as the same person. I have given them reasons from Quran that non-Ahmadis'
interpretation of 'khatamannabiyyeen' is inconsistent with Quran. I asked
them to counter my arguments using Quran. Alas they have simply used indecent
language and never gave me a single reason from Quran. So dear brother
if you want to speak the truth better be prepared to face abusive language.
After all people fight with what they have got. I have decided not to be
disturbed by their language but to keep posting my comments on this page
in spite of their indecent language. May be Allah (SWA) will turn their
heart towards truth. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 14:44:40 (EST)
Dear non-Ahmadi Readers Below, in my comments I gave references
from the holy Quran to prove that Jehad with sword is not permitted against
those people who do not persecute for saying "Allah is our Lord". Also
I gave reference from Quran showing that Issa (AS) is dead. I asked the
non-Ahmadi ulema of this page (Rumy, Fateh Sher, Rashid using various aliases)
to counter my argument using Quran as the basis. As all of you would note
that there has been lot of indecent language against me but not a single
argument from Quran. Dear readers, please understand, the position adopted
by non-Ahmadis is not tenable according to Quran. Please reflect upon Quran
to save your 'AAkhirat'. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 12:09:24 (EST)
I said a number of times that when someone is answering
my questions to not use abusive language.You people obviously do not understand
english let alone Islam. Also, there is a big difference between a law
bearing prophet and a reflection prophet.You fools cannot even get that.It
shows how much IQ you have.Robert was correct when he said Pakistan is
50 years behind the rest of the world.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 11:37:52 (EST)
Brother Dr Rashid. Welldone brother. I have visited your
website thoroughly. Its very cool and informative. These Qadianis who have
altered the Quranic meanings and have added new Traditions in holy books
with the name of holy prophet are dying gradually in toilet. My Allah has
promised to give them death of pain. Brother Qadiani buster your long comments
are very usefull and it contains all truth. I have read many books of Mirza
ghulam they all are full of Shirk and Fitna. Thanks to all Muslim brothers
who are exposing this Qadiani Fitna at right time.May Allah keep you in
His AMMAAN.
RAHMAT ALI <rahmat@musses.com.au>
Au - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 09:00:29 (EST)
First of all many congratulations to Brother Rashid who
set-up such a useful and informative page. Also thanks to muslim brothers
who are regular contributors of this guest book. Qadiani Cult inventor
Mirza Ghulam was a miserable and pity character. Some of posts on this
web site are real eye opener for me. This makruh person who claimed that
he experienced Godhood (in fact he was experiencing Satanism) by creating
the heavans and earth (Allah-hu-Akbar). This man had admitted in his writings
that he had to visit toilet 100 times a day for excessive pee and potty.
One can guess why his ideas & behaviour was so filthy. He claimed that
he beautified Islam, not at all. Probably the only thing he beautified
was toilet where he spend much of his time when he was alive and at last
he died in it. This make him a legend of his own kind. Unfortunately qadianis
have the dirty job of covering his filth and blunders.
Abrar Khan <no need>
NZ - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 05:46:47 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster) and Isa Khan The promised
Messiah died on his bed with Allah as the last word on his lips. If you
do not believe it then please wait for the day of judgement when no body
will be able to lie. Mr. Isa Khan, the names of ulema and political leaders
I have given in my comment show that non-Ahmadis, who feel Mirza Sahib
erred in advising against Jehad, are either better educated than their
own ulema or that their ulema were British agents. You have to tell me
which alternative applies to them. As far as I am concerned I look at Quran
and I follow that. Quran very clearly says that Jehad with sword is permitted
against those people who persecute you for saying,"Allah is our Lord".
Please give me your reason from Quran for not approving my position. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 20:27:04 (EST)
Mr Wraich Qadiani. I recieved your message privately.
But I am replying on this page as you have discussed the material of this
page. Your point is that" because Alkazib Mirza ghulam was rejected by
all Muslim Ummah and his message is rejected by Muslim Ummah therefore
Mirza ghulam was true and on right path." What could I understand from
your posting that all those claimant of Prophethood who rejected by Muslim
Ummah were true prophets. Isn't. Besure Muslim Ummah will reject all those
dirty eggs who will try to detract the Muslims. Islam condemns the Mischivious
people. There are two Jammat (groups) of people. One who are guided by
Allah SWT and others who are guided by Satan Murddod. Muslim Ummah is in
guidence of Allah therefore they reject all liars and Munafiks. Mirza ghulam
was a True Munafik and Liar person therefore he was rejected by all Muslim
ummah.
Barbarian Khan <observor@hotmail.com>
AZ - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 20:03:23 (EST)
HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD Read This, Feel ashamed, and then
answer; Tell if your MIRZA MAEDOOD was a prophet or the BIGGEST LIAR Mirza
Ghulam's relationship with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God
and believed that it is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . .
. and in this state I was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth.
Thus I created heavens and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On
one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood revealed his condition that the State
of Revelation came upon him in such a manner as if he is a woman and God
has expressed His power of Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand."
(Tract No.34, Islami Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close
associate of Mirza Ghulam) (SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality|
May Allah protect us from such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his
Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens and Earth are with you as they are with me. .
. . You are from me as my Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like
my Throne. You are from me like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil .
. . . . I Fast and I break the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son
which will be the menifestation of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has
descended from Heavens. We give you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi,
Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99) Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other
Prophets "Many Prophets though have come but I am not less than anyone
in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given
to me was full to the brim." (Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been
given that thing which no one has received in both the worlds." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different Virtues present in other Prophets,
all of them were present more intensely present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad
SAAW) and now all those virtues have been given to us by the Holy Prophet
and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon,
Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor
Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones descended from Heavens
but your throne was placed at the highest level." (Roohani Khazain vol.22
p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous Prophets, a lot of Miracles
and Prophecies are present, rather there is no comparision between (these)
and some of the previous Prophets' miracles and prophecies. Moreover their
miracles and prophecies are now merely stories and anecdotes, but thousand
of people are witnessing these miracles. Even Hindus have a lot of stories.
To mention stories are similar to presenting a heap of dung in front of
Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain vol.18, p.460) "This
Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli Joseph (Hazrat
Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved from the prison
despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in prison. And 25 years
ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah that is Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended on the testimony
of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part5 Roohani
Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me that if they
had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have drowned." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second advent of Holy Prophet
Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala
alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God has named me Muhammed
as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207) "Holy Prophet has
two advents or in other words you can say that in one Buroozi way coming
again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has been fulfilled by the
appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi." (Roohani Khazain vol
17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and MUSTAFA (pbuh), he
has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.171)
"Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy Prophet pbuh, but it is
He Himself who has come again in this world in Buroozi form..... therefore
is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet again in Qadian?" (Kalimat
Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review
of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have said several times that according
to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim'
as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago
God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and declared me
His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.212) Mirza Claims
to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When I am the Holy Prophet
re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad including the
prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is the
man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?" (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala,
p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is that the spirituality
of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of the 6th millennium (i.e.
these days in the form of Mirza), is much more stronger, more complete
and forceful than in those early years, rather it is like the 14th (moonlit)
night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain, vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The
spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived in 5th thousand (ie
Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period was not the the
climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather the first step
to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this spirituality
manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand (his rebirth
in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah, Roohani
Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised Messiah
(i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah has
over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could not
manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the ability
existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the Promised
Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of Religions,
May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore) KALIMA
in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had claimed
to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which is better and
more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to understand how
Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day Qadianis claim
that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims do. But do
they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming of Promised
Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured and that
is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning of 'Mohammad
ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included, BUT with the
advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE MEANING
OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it is still the same
Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised Messiah has
added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new Kalima, because
Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet, as he says 'saara
wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and 'he who differentiates
between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises me'.....thus
Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come again in
tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima. Yes
if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think all
of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad)
"As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has cropped
up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised Messiah
in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah' included
in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after the
incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one more
prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah. Therefore
on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah, God
forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly. In short,
the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam, with the only
difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Qadiani)
has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool Llah". (Kalimatul
Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's relationship
with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God and believed that it
is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . . . and in this state I
was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created heavens
and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh
Mowood revealed his condition that the State of Revelation came upon him
in such a manner as if he is a woman and God has expressed His power of
Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand." (Tract No.34, Islami
Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close associate of Mirza Ghulam)
(SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality| May Allah protect us from
such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens
and Earth are with you as they are with me. . . . You are from me as my
Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like my Throne. You are from me
like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil . . . . . I Fast and I break
the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son which will be the menifestation
of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has descended from Heavens. We give
you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99)
Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other Prophets "Many Prophets though
have come but I am not less than anyone in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved
a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given to me was full to the brim." (Roohani
Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been given that thing which no one has received
in both the worlds." (Roohani Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different
Virtues present in other Prophets, all of them were present more intensely
present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad SAAW) and now all those virtues have
been given to us by the Holy Prophet and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham,
Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon, Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya
vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones
descended from Heavens but your throne was placed at the highest level."
(Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous
Prophets, a lot of Miracles and Prophecies are present, rather there is
no comparision between (these) and some of the previous Prophets' miracles
and prophecies. Moreover their miracles and prophecies are now merely stories
and anecdotes, but thousand of people are witnessing these miracles. Even
Hindus have a lot of stories. To mention stories are similar to presenting
a heap of dung in front of Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain
vol.18, p.460) "This Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli
Joseph (Hazrat Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved
from the prison despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in
prison. And 25 years ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah
that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended
on the testimony of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
part5 Roohani Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me
that if they had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have
drowned." (Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second
advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena
m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God
has named me Muhammed as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207)
"Holy Prophet has two advents or in other words you can say that in one
Buroozi way coming again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has
been fulfilled by the appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi."
(Roohani Khazain vol 17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and
MUSTAFA (pbuh), he has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani
Khazain vol 16 p.171) "Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy
Prophet pbuh, but it is He Himself who has come again in this world in
Buroozi form..... therefore is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet
again in Qadian?" (Kalimat Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have
said several times that according to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena
minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim' as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul
Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
and declared me His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18
p.212) Mirza Claims to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When
I am the Holy Prophet re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of
Muhammad including the prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness,
then who is the man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?"
(Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is
that the spirituality of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of
the 6th millennium (i.e. these days in the form of Mirza), is much more
stronger, more complete and forceful than in those early years, rather
it is like the 14th (moonlit) night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain,
vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived
in 5th thousand (ie Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period
was not the the climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather
the first step to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this
spirituality manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand
(his rebirth in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah,
Roohani Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised
Messiah (i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet
(pbuh). And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah
has over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could
not manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the
ability existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the
Promised Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of
Religions, May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore)
KALIMA in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
had claimed to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which
is better and more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to
understand how Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day
Qadianis claim that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims
do. But do they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming
of Promised Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured
and that is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning
of 'Mohammad ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included,
BUT with the advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED
TO THE MEANING OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it
is still the same Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised
Messiah has added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new
Kalima, because Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet,
as he says 'saara wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and
'he who differentiates between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises
me'.....thus Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come
again in tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima.
Yes if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think
all of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad) "As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has
cropped up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised
Messiah in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah'
included in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after
the incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one
more prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah.
Therefore on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah,
God forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly.
In short, the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam,
with the only difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza
Qadiani) has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool
Llah". (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 19:31:58 (EST)
HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD Read This, Feel ashamed, and then
answer; Tell if your MIRZA MAEDOOD was a prophet or the BIGGEST LIAR Mirza
Ghulam's relationship with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God
and believed that it is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . .
. and in this state I was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth.
Thus I created heavens and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On
one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood revealed his condition that the State
of Revelation came upon him in such a manner as if he is a woman and God
has expressed His power of Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand."
(Tract No.34, Islami Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close
associate of Mirza Ghulam) (SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality|
May Allah protect us from such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his
Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens and Earth are with you as they are with me. .
. . You are from me as my Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like
my Throne. You are from me like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil .
. . . . I Fast and I break the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son
which will be the menifestation of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has
descended from Heavens. We give you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi,
Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99) Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other
Prophets "Many Prophets though have come but I am not less than anyone
in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given
to me was full to the brim." (Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been
given that thing which no one has received in both the worlds." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different Virtues present in other Prophets,
all of them were present more intensely present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad
SAAW) and now all those virtues have been given to us by the Holy Prophet
and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon,
Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor
Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones descended from Heavens
but your throne was placed at the highest level." (Roohani Khazain vol.22
p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous Prophets, a lot of Miracles
and Prophecies are present, rather there is no comparision between (these)
and some of the previous Prophets' miracles and prophecies. Moreover their
miracles and prophecies are now merely stories and anecdotes, but thousand
of people are witnessing these miracles. Even Hindus have a lot of stories.
To mention stories are similar to presenting a heap of dung in front of
Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain vol.18, p.460) "This
Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli Joseph (Hazrat
Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved from the prison
despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in prison. And 25 years
ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah that is Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended on the testimony
of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part5 Roohani
Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me that if they
had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have drowned." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second advent of Holy Prophet
Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala
alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God has named me Muhammed
as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207) "Holy Prophet has
two advents or in other words you can say that in one Buroozi way coming
again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has been fulfilled by the
appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi." (Roohani Khazain vol
17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and MUSTAFA (pbuh), he
has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.171)
"Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy Prophet pbuh, but it is
He Himself who has come again in this world in Buroozi form..... therefore
is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet again in Qadian?" (Kalimat
Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review
of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have said several times that according
to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim'
as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago
God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and declared me
His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.212) Mirza Claims
to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When I am the Holy Prophet
re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad including the
prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is the
man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?" (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala,
p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is that the spirituality
of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of the 6th millennium (i.e.
these days in the form of Mirza), is much more stronger, more complete
and forceful than in those early years, rather it is like the 14th (moonlit)
night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain, vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The
spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived in 5th thousand (ie
Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period was not the the
climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather the first step
to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this spirituality
manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand (his rebirth
in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah, Roohani
Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised Messiah
(i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah has
over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could not
manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the ability
existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the Promised
Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of Religions,
May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore) KALIMA
in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had claimed
to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which is better and
more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to understand how
Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day Qadianis claim
that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims do. But do
they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming of Promised
Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured and that
is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning of 'Mohammad
ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included, BUT with the
advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE MEANING
OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it is still the same
Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised Messiah has
added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new Kalima, because
Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet, as he says 'saara
wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and 'he who differentiates
between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises me'.....thus
Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come again in
tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima. Yes
if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think all
of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad)
"As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has cropped
up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised Messiah
in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah' included
in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after the
incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one more
prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah. Therefore
on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah, God
forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly. In short,
the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam, with the only
difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Qadiani)
has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool Llah". (Kalimatul
Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's relationship
with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God and believed that it
is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . . . and in this state I
was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created heavens
and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh
Mowood revealed his condition that the State of Revelation came upon him
in such a manner as if he is a woman and God has expressed His power of
Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand." (Tract No.34, Islami
Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close associate of Mirza Ghulam)
(SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality| May Allah protect us from
such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens
and Earth are with you as they are with me. . . . You are from me as my
Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like my Throne. You are from me
like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil . . . . . I Fast and I break
the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son which will be the menifestation
of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has descended from Heavens. We give
you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99)
Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other Prophets "Many Prophets though
have come but I am not less than anyone in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved
a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given to me was full to the brim." (Roohani
Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been given that thing which no one has received
in both the worlds." (Roohani Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different
Virtues present in other Prophets, all of them were present more intensely
present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad SAAW) and now all those virtues have
been given to us by the Holy Prophet and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham,
Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon, Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya
vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones
descended from Heavens but your throne was placed at the highest level."
(Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous
Prophets, a lot of Miracles and Prophecies are present, rather there is
no comparision between (these) and some of the previous Prophets' miracles
and prophecies. Moreover their miracles and prophecies are now merely stories
and anecdotes, but thousand of people are witnessing these miracles. Even
Hindus have a lot of stories. To mention stories are similar to presenting
a heap of dung in front of Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain
vol.18, p.460) "This Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli
Joseph (Hazrat Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved
from the prison despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in
prison. And 25 years ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah
that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended
on the testimony of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
part5 Roohani Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me
that if they had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have
drowned." (Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second
advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena
m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God
has named me Muhammed as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207)
"Holy Prophet has two advents or in other words you can say that in one
Buroozi way coming again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has
been fulfilled by the appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi."
(Roohani Khazain vol 17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and
MUSTAFA (pbuh), he has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani
Khazain vol 16 p.171) "Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy
Prophet pbuh, but it is He Himself who has come again in this world in
Buroozi form..... therefore is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet
again in Qadian?" (Kalimat Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have
said several times that according to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena
minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim' as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul
Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
and declared me His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18
p.212) Mirza Claims to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When
I am the Holy Prophet re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of
Muhammad including the prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness,
then who is the man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?"
(Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is
that the spirituality of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of
the 6th millennium (i.e. these days in the form of Mirza), is much more
stronger, more complete and forceful than in those early years, rather
it is like the 14th (moonlit) night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain,
vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived
in 5th thousand (ie Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period
was not the the climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather
the first step to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this
spirituality manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand
(his rebirth in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah,
Roohani Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised
Messiah (i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet
(pbuh). And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah
has over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could
not manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the
ability existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the
Promised Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of
Religions, May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore)
KALIMA in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
had claimed to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which
is better and more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to
understand how Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day
Qadianis claim that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims
do. But do they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming
of Promised Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured
and that is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning
of 'Mohammad ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included,
BUT with the advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED
TO THE MEANING OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it
is still the same Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised
Messiah has added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new
Kalima, because Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet,
as he says 'saara wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and
'he who differentiates between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises
me'.....thus Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come
again in tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima.
Yes if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think
all of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad) "As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has
cropped up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised
Messiah in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah'
included in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after
the incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one
more prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah.
Therefore on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah,
God forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly.
In short, the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam,
with the only difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza
Qadiani) has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool
Llah". (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani)
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PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 19:31:29 (EST)
HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD Read This, Feel ashamed, and then
answer; Tell if your MIRZA MAEDOOD was a prophet or the BIGGEST LIAR Mirza
Ghulam's relationship with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God
and believed that it is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . .
. and in this state I was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth.
Thus I created heavens and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On
one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood revealed his condition that the State
of Revelation came upon him in such a manner as if he is a woman and God
has expressed His power of Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand."
(Tract No.34, Islami Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close
associate of Mirza Ghulam) (SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality|
May Allah protect us from such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his
Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens and Earth are with you as they are with me. .
. . You are from me as my Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like
my Throne. You are from me like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil .
. . . . I Fast and I break the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son
which will be the menifestation of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has
descended from Heavens. We give you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi,
Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99) Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other
Prophets "Many Prophets though have come but I am not less than anyone
in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given
to me was full to the brim." (Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been
given that thing which no one has received in both the worlds." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different Virtues present in other Prophets,
all of them were present more intensely present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad
SAAW) and now all those virtues have been given to us by the Holy Prophet
and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon,
Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor
Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones descended from Heavens
but your throne was placed at the highest level." (Roohani Khazain vol.22
p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous Prophets, a lot of Miracles
and Prophecies are present, rather there is no comparision between (these)
and some of the previous Prophets' miracles and prophecies. Moreover their
miracles and prophecies are now merely stories and anecdotes, but thousand
of people are witnessing these miracles. Even Hindus have a lot of stories.
To mention stories are similar to presenting a heap of dung in front of
Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain vol.18, p.460) "This
Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli Joseph (Hazrat
Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved from the prison
despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in prison. And 25 years
ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah that is Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended on the testimony
of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part5 Roohani
Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me that if they
had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have drowned." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second advent of Holy Prophet
Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala
alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God has named me Muhammed
as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207) "Holy Prophet has
two advents or in other words you can say that in one Buroozi way coming
again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has been fulfilled by the
appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi." (Roohani Khazain vol
17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and MUSTAFA (pbuh), he
has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.171)
"Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy Prophet pbuh, but it is
He Himself who has come again in this world in Buroozi form..... therefore
is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet again in Qadian?" (Kalimat
Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review
of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have said several times that according
to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim'
as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago
God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and declared me
His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.212) Mirza Claims
to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When I am the Holy Prophet
re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad including the
prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is the
man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?" (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala,
p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is that the spirituality
of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of the 6th millennium (i.e.
these days in the form of Mirza), is much more stronger, more complete
and forceful than in those early years, rather it is like the 14th (moonlit)
night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain, vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The
spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived in 5th thousand (ie
Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period was not the the
climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather the first step
to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this spirituality
manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand (his rebirth
in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah, Roohani
Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised Messiah
(i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah has
over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could not
manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the ability
existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the Promised
Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of Religions,
May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore) KALIMA
in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had claimed
to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which is better and
more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to understand how
Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day Qadianis claim
that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims do. But do
they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming of Promised
Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured and that
is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning of 'Mohammad
ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included, BUT with the
advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE MEANING
OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it is still the same
Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised Messiah has
added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new Kalima, because
Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet, as he says 'saara
wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and 'he who differentiates
between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises me'.....thus
Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come again in
tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima. Yes
if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think all
of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad)
"As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has cropped
up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised Messiah
in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah' included
in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after the
incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one more
prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah. Therefore
on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah, God
forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly. In short,
the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam, with the only
difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Qadiani)
has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool Llah". (Kalimatul
Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's relationship
with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God and believed that it
is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . . . and in this state I
was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created heavens
and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh
Mowood revealed his condition that the State of Revelation came upon him
in such a manner as if he is a woman and God has expressed His power of
Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand." (Tract No.34, Islami
Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close associate of Mirza Ghulam)
(SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality| May Allah protect us from
such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens
and Earth are with you as they are with me. . . . You are from me as my
Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like my Throne. You are from me
like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil . . . . . I Fast and I break
the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son which will be the menifestation
of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has descended from Heavens. We give
you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99)
Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other Prophets "Many Prophets though
have come but I am not less than anyone in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved
a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given to me was full to the brim." (Roohani
Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been given that thing which no one has received
in both the worlds." (Roohani Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different
Virtues present in other Prophets, all of them were present more intensely
present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad SAAW) and now all those virtues have
been given to us by the Holy Prophet and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham,
Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon, Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya
vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones
descended from Heavens but your throne was placed at the highest level."
(Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous
Prophets, a lot of Miracles and Prophecies are present, rather there is
no comparision between (these) and some of the previous Prophets' miracles
and prophecies. Moreover their miracles and prophecies are now merely stories
and anecdotes, but thousand of people are witnessing these miracles. Even
Hindus have a lot of stories. To mention stories are similar to presenting
a heap of dung in front of Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain
vol.18, p.460) "This Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli
Joseph (Hazrat Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved
from the prison despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in
prison. And 25 years ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah
that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended
on the testimony of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
part5 Roohani Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me
that if they had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have
drowned." (Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second
advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena
m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God
has named me Muhammed as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207)
"Holy Prophet has two advents or in other words you can say that in one
Buroozi way coming again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has
been fulfilled by the appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi."
(Roohani Khazain vol 17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and
MUSTAFA (pbuh), he has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani
Khazain vol 16 p.171) "Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy
Prophet pbuh, but it is He Himself who has come again in this world in
Buroozi form..... therefore is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet
again in Qadian?" (Kalimat Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have
said several times that according to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena
minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim' as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul
Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
and declared me His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18
p.212) Mirza Claims to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When
I am the Holy Prophet re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of
Muhammad including the prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness,
then who is the man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?"
(Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is
that the spirituality of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of
the 6th millennium (i.e. these days in the form of Mirza), is much more
stronger, more complete and forceful than in those early years, rather
it is like the 14th (moonlit) night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain,
vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived
in 5th thousand (ie Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period
was not the the climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather
the first step to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this
spirituality manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand
(his rebirth in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah,
Roohani Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised
Messiah (i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet
(pbuh). And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah
has over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could
not manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the
ability existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the
Promised Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of
Religions, May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore)
KALIMA in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
had claimed to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which
is better and more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to
understand how Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day
Qadianis claim that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims
do. But do they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming
of Promised Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured
and that is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning
of 'Mohammad ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included,
BUT with the advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED
TO THE MEANING OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it
is still the same Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised
Messiah has added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new
Kalima, because Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet,
as he says 'saara wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and
'he who differentiates between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises
me'.....thus Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come
again in tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima.
Yes if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think
all of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad) "As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has
cropped up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised
Messiah in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah'
included in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after
the incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one
more prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah.
Therefore on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah,
God forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly.
In short, the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam,
with the only difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza
Qadiani) has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool
Llah". (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 19:30:54 (EST)
HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD Read This, Feel ashamed, and then
answer; Tell if your MIRZA MAEDOOD was a prophet or the BIGGEST LIAR Mirza
Ghulam's relationship with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God
and believed that it is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . .
. and in this state I was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth.
Thus I created heavens and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On
one occasion Hazrat Maseeh Mowood revealed his condition that the State
of Revelation came upon him in such a manner as if he is a woman and God
has expressed His power of Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand."
(Tract No.34, Islami Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close
associate of Mirza Ghulam) (SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality|
May Allah protect us from such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his
Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens and Earth are with you as they are with me. .
. . You are from me as my Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like
my Throne. You are from me like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil .
. . . . I Fast and I break the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son
which will be the menifestation of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has
descended from Heavens. We give you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi,
Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99) Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other
Prophets "Many Prophets though have come but I am not less than anyone
in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given
to me was full to the brim." (Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been
given that thing which no one has received in both the worlds." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different Virtues present in other Prophets,
all of them were present more intensely present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad
SAAW) and now all those virtues have been given to us by the Holy Prophet
and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon,
Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor
Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones descended from Heavens
but your throne was placed at the highest level." (Roohani Khazain vol.22
p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous Prophets, a lot of Miracles
and Prophecies are present, rather there is no comparision between (these)
and some of the previous Prophets' miracles and prophecies. Moreover their
miracles and prophecies are now merely stories and anecdotes, but thousand
of people are witnessing these miracles. Even Hindus have a lot of stories.
To mention stories are similar to presenting a heap of dung in front of
Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain vol.18, p.460) "This
Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli Joseph (Hazrat
Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved from the prison
despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in prison. And 25 years
ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah that is Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended on the testimony
of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya part5 Roohani
Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me that if they
had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have drowned." (Roohani
Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second advent of Holy Prophet
Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala
alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God has named me Muhammed
as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207) "Holy Prophet has
two advents or in other words you can say that in one Buroozi way coming
again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has been fulfilled by the
appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi." (Roohani Khazain vol
17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and MUSTAFA (pbuh), he
has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani Khazain vol 16 p.171)
"Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy Prophet pbuh, but it is
He Himself who has come again in this world in Buroozi form..... therefore
is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet again in Qadian?" (Kalimat
Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review
of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have said several times that according
to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim'
as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago
God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya and declared me
His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.212) Mirza Claims
to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When I am the Holy Prophet
re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad including the
prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is the
man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?" (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala,
p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is that the spirituality
of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of the 6th millennium (i.e.
these days in the form of Mirza), is much more stronger, more complete
and forceful than in those early years, rather it is like the 14th (moonlit)
night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain, vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The
spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived in 5th thousand (ie
Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period was not the the
climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather the first step
to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this spirituality
manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand (his rebirth
in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah, Roohani
Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised Messiah
(i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah has
over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could not
manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the ability
existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the Promised
Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of Religions,
May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore) KALIMA
in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had claimed
to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which is better and
more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to understand how
Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day Qadianis claim
that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims do. But do
they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming of Promised
Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured and that
is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning of 'Mohammad
ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included, BUT with the
advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE MEANING
OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it is still the same
Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised Messiah has
added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new Kalima, because
Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet, as he says 'saara
wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and 'he who differentiates
between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises me'.....thus
Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come again in
tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima. Yes
if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think all
of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam Ahmad)
"As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has cropped
up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised Messiah
in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah' included
in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after the
incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one more
prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah. Therefore
on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah, God
forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly. In short,
the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam, with the only
difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza Qadiani)
has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool Llah". (Kalimatul
Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's relationship
with GOD | "I saw in my vision that I myself am God and believed that it
is true . . . . Godhood penetrated my tissues . . . and in this state I
was saying that We want a new heaven and a new earth. Thus I created heavens
and earth . ." (Roohani Khazain vol.13 p.103) "On one occasion Hazrat Maseeh
Mowood revealed his condition that the State of Revelation came upon him
in such a manner as if he is a woman and God has expressed His power of
Virility. Hint is enough for those who can understand." (Tract No.34, Islami
Qurbani p.12 by Qazi Yar Mohammed Qadiani, a close associate of Mirza Ghulam)
(SubhanAllah| Accusing Allah of Homosexuality| May Allah protect us from
such wild imaginations.) God tells Mirza in his Wahi "(O Mirza|) Heavens
and Earth are with you as they are with me. . . . You are from me as my
Unity and my Uniqeuness. You are from me like my Throne. You are from me
like my son. I make mistakes and I fulfil . . . . . I Fast and I break
the fast. We give you the gladtidings of a son which will be the menifestation
of 'HAQ' and the MAJESTY, as if GOD has descended from Heavens. We give
you gladtidings of a son.." (Haqeeqat-ul-Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.79-99)
Mirza Ghulam claims to be better than other Prophets "Many Prophets though
have come but I am not less than anyone in knowledge. Every Prophet recieved
a cup (of knowledge) and my cup given to me was full to the brim." (Roohani
Khazain vol.18 p.477) "I have been given that thing which no one has received
in both the worlds." (Roohani Khazain vol.22, p.715) "All the different
Virtues present in other Prophets, all of them were present more intensely
present in Holy Prophet (Muhammad SAAW) and now all those virtues have
been given to us by the Holy Prophet and that is why my name is Adam, Abraham,
Moses, Noah, David, Joseph, Solomon, Yahya (John), Eisa etc...." (Malfoozat-e-Ahmadiyya
vol.4 p.142 by Manzoor Ilahi Qadiani) Mirza Ghulam's Wahi "Many Thrones
descended from Heavens but your throne was placed at the highest level."
(Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.92) "This place (Qadian) compare to previous
Prophets, a lot of Miracles and Prophecies are present, rather there is
no comparision between (these) and some of the previous Prophets' miracles
and prophecies. Moreover their miracles and prophecies are now merely stories
and anecdotes, but thousand of people are witnessing these miracles. Even
Hindus have a lot of stories. To mention stories are similar to presenting
a heap of dung in front of Musk and Amber." (Nuzool-e-Maseeh Roohani Khazain
vol.18, p.460) "This Ummah's Joseph that is myself is better than the Israeli
Joseph (Hazrat Yousef alaihe Assalam) because this humble self was saved
from the prison despite praying for it but Joseph s/o Jacob was put in
prison. And 25 years ago God testified to absolve the Joseph of this Ummah
that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from accusation whereas Joseph s/o Jacob depended
on the testimony of a human being for his vindication." (Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
part5 Roohani Khazain vol.21, p.99) "God is showing so many signs for me
that if they had been revealed in the time of Noah, they would not have
drowned." (Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.575) Mirza Ghulam claims to be second
advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "'Muhammedur Rasoolullah wal lazeena
m'ahoo, ashiddao 'ala alkuffare rohamao bainahum' in this revelation God
has named me Muhammed as well as Messenger." (Roohani Khazain vol 18 p.207)
"Holy Prophet has two advents or in other words you can say that in one
Buroozi way coming again of Holy Prophet (saaw) was promised which has
been fulfilled by the appearance of Promised Messiah and Promised Mahdi."
(Roohani Khazain vol 17 p.249) "Anyone who differentiates between me and
MUSTAFA (pbuh), he has not seen me and has not recognize me." (Roohani
Khazain vol 16 p.171) "Maseeh Mowood is not a seperate thing from Holy
Prophet pbuh, but it is He Himself who has come again in this world in
Buroozi form..... therefore is there any doubt that God has sent Holy Prophet
again in Qadian?" (Kalimat Alfasl p.104-105, by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Review of Religions, Qadian, March 1915) "I have
said several times that according to the verse (of Holy Quran) 'wa akhareena
minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim' as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul
Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Ahmadiyya
and declared me His Being." (Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol 18
p.212) Mirza Claims to be better than Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW "When
I am the Holy Prophet re-incarnate and when all the accomplishments of
Muhammad including the prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness,
then who is the man who has claimed prophethood in a seperate being ?"
(Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, p.8; Roohani Khazain, vol.18,p.212) "The truth is
that the spirituality of the (reincarnated) Holy Prophet at the end of
the 6th millennium (i.e. these days in the form of Mirza), is much more
stronger, more complete and forceful than in those early years, rather
it is like the 14th (moonlit) night". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiyah, Roohani Khazain,
vol.16, pp. 271-272) "The spirituality of our holy Prophet (SAW) was conceived
in 5th thousand (ie Makki birth) with its precise attributes and that period
was not the the climax of his spirituality's development. It was rather
the first step to the highest pinnacle of its perfection. Thereafter this
spirituality manifested itself in its full glamour during the 6th thousand
(his rebirth in Qadian) at the present time". (Mirza in Khutba-e-llhamiyah,
Roohani Khazain, Vol.16, p.266) "The mental development of the promised
Messiah (i.e. the Mirza of Qadian) was higher than that of the Holy Prophet
(pbuh). And this is only a part of the superiority which the Promised Messiah
has over the Holy Prophet. The mental faculties of the Holy Prophet could
not manifest fully owing to the deficiency of civilization; although the
ability existed. They have now manifested themselves fully through the
Promised Masih by virtue of the advancement of civilization." (Review of
Religions, May 1929, as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, p.266, 9th Edition, Lahore)
KALIMA in Ahmadiyyat Now that it has been shown how Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
had claimed to be the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAAW which
is better and more complete than the first coming, it would be easier to
understand how Kalima-e-Tayyebah has acquired new meanings. Present day
Qadianis claim that they are reciting the Kalima just as the other Muslims
do. But do they really? Read the following statements. "With the coming
of Promised Messiah one difference (in the meaning of Kalima) has occured
and that is that before the advent of Promised Messiah, in the meaning
of 'Mohammad ur Rasoolullah' only Prophets of bygone days were included,
BUT with the advent of Promised Messiah, ONE MORE PROPHET HAS BEEN ADDED
TO THE MEANING OF MOHAMMADUR RASOOLULLAH......thus to enter in Islam it
is still the same Kalima, the only difference is that the advent of Promised
Messiah has added one more propet to its meaning...we don't need a new
Kalima, because Promised Messiah is nothing seperate from Holy Prophet,
as he says 'saara wujoodi wujoodahoo (my person became his person)' and
'he who differentiates between me and Mustafa has not seen me and not recognises
me'.....thus Promised Messiah is Mohammad Rasoolullah himself who has come
again in tis world to spread Islam, therefore we do not need any new Kalima.
Yes if someone else had come then we may have required it --- thus think
all of you." (KalimatAlFasl p.158 by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam
Ahmad) "As a result of the birth of the Promised Messiah a difference has
cropped up (in the meaning of the Kalimah). Before the birth of the Promised
Messiah in the world as a prophet, the words 'Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah'
included in their meaning only such Prophets as had preceded him; but after
the incarnation of the Promised Messiah in the world as a prophet, one
more prophet has been added to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasoolu Llah.
Therefore on account of the incarnation of the Promised Messiah the Kalimah,
God forbid, does not become abolished; it rather shines more brightly.
In short, the same Kalima is (effective) even now for embracing Islam,
with the only difference that the incarnation of the Promised Messiah (Mirza
Qadiani) has added one more prophet to the meaning of Muhammadur Rasool
Llah". (Kalimatul Fasl, page 158, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad Qadiani)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 19:30:04 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. If you think that Maulana Maudoodi Sahib
and all other many Muslim Ulemas Islamic knowledge was true then why don't
you join them. Why the hell you are in this satanic Mirzayyet.2. Read the
Web page of brother Rashid he has provided all the details there. As I
think this site (Guest Book) is only for your brief comments on material
on that page. 3 Read the comments of brother Fateh Sher and brother Rumy
with eyes. They are telling you that AlKazib Mirza ghulam was supporting
British Government. 4. Mirza ghulam was indulged all his life in fruitless
debates.5 Mirza ghulam used filthy language against his opponents while
most of the opponents were Muslims. 6 Mirza ghulam died of Cholera which
was result of his one challange to a Muslim Scolar. Mirza ghulam was accursed
by Allah. Wassalam to people of Haddaya
Isa Khan <Isa@acl.com>
UK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 18:47:34 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd To find the answers for your questions,
I have a suggestion. Just Go to Mirza Tahir Kazib, and stick your face
between His legs. You will find answer to any question. and also you will
get some QADIANI blessings. After that you can repeat the same process
to "Maryam Qadiani" , But here you will get some different answers. Just
try to match them and see what happens after that. GOOD LUCK HAMJEED MURTADD.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 17:50:29 (EST)
Abdul aziz Qadiani Murtadd You are asking too many non
sense and Stupid questions like your Mirza Ghulam Kazib. but you never
answered my questions about the Miserable, Disgraceful, Horrible Death
of MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB (When and Why did he die with S.H.I.T. in His mouth)?
Why did the BHANGIS had to remove his stinking Body from the Bath room
(At that time called "TATTI"). Who is you real father? Do you know him?
Or did your mother ever tell you about her past and the names of the Guys
she used to fool around with? Who is the real father of Mirza Tahir Kazib?
I mean the actual culprit who brought this "Shaitan" in this world? Just
very simple questions, but You might have hard time to tell the truth.
If you dont answer these questions honestly, I will assume that you are
GAY.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 17:45:47 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster), Messrs Rumy and Fateh
Sher Thank you very much for the foul language you used. At least on the
day of judgement you will be found guilty by Allah (SWA) who says in Quran,"Do
not call names even to the gods of other people". I am no god, nor Mirza
Sahib ever proclaimed himself to be a god. I only pray to Allah that He
will give you wisdom to follow Quran. (2). I am not moving from point to
point. Look below. I have given you references from Quran proving the point
that Jehad with sword is permitted against those who perscute you for saying
"Alah is our Lord". I have also given you names of non-Ahmadi ulema, and
also those who passed away before the advent of Mirza Sahib. Even a question
to be answered by you is written. So please answer that question. Were
those ulema afraid of the British that they preached that they did not
preach Jehad . (3). Since those ulema based their fatwa on reasons (for
reading those reasons please visit .alislam.org). They did not issue fatwas
without investigating the religious laws. Now if you disagree with them
and declare them misguided then please say so on this page that Maulana
Maudoodi knew less of Quran than Dr. Rashid, Rumy and Fateh Sher. If you
say that they knew Quran better than you three then please tell me why
should any body believe you, knowing that you do not follow Quran (Using
abusive language without cause). (4). I am still waiting for you to write
the names of some non-Ahmadi ulema in the period 1870-1910 living under
British occupation and preaching Jehad against the British. Mr Fateh Sher
you give the example of Pathan tribes waging Jehad against the British.
You know they were not waging Jehad. They have been fighting against the
Pakistani Govt also. Is that Jehad too? There are and have been political
problems in the tribal areas. They fight among themselves, they fought
against the British and they fight against Pakistan. (5) I have given you
my reasons, regarding Jehad, based on Quran. Please give me your reasons
based on Quran. Thank you. Wassalam.
Abdul aziz <n.o.>
USA - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 17:27:45 (EST)
I AM STILL WAITING FOR REPLIES TO MY POSTING.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 11:14:25 (EST)
Brother Rumy Assalam-O-Alaikum May ALLAH (SWT) bless you
all for your Jihad against this "QADIANI" fitnah. Abdul aziz is Jumping
from one point to another Just like HIS MOTHER was Hopping from ONE BED
to ANOTHER. Just Like HIS (ABDUL AZIZ MIRZAI'S) mother did not know what
the hell was she doing, Same way ABDULAZIZ MURTADD do not know what the
hell is he talking about. The DRUGS has absolutly impaired his brains and
now a days he is just like MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. So If ABDUL AZIZ ACT or
PLAY like a STUPID , please ignore it. Because the way HE (ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD)
acts , is a Real QADIANI way, and it has to do something with S.H.I.T.T.Y
blessings of MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. May Curse of ALLAH (SWT) be upon all theseQADIANI
MURTADDS and upon their Qadiani PANDAT MIRZA TAHIR (Insha Allah).
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 07:17:00 (EST)
ABDULAZIZ MIRZAI. Now you want to divert discussion to
the death of Hazarat ISA AS. Question is not this that weather hazarat
Jesus AS were died or not.Question is If it is true then How Mirza Kazib
could be a prophet. And if it is not true then why not. Is this difference
between Muslims and Mirzais is distinguished difference. Or We Muslims
on this difference claimed that Mirza Kazib was not prophet and his followers
are non Muslim. If it is not so then why did you raise this question. Just
to divert the attention and to create a fuss.The same absurd disscussions
Mirza Kazib was doing in his life. And he had diverted all attentions of
innocent Muslims to this useless debates. Abdulaziz Mirzai come on. We
are saying Mirza Kazib was seedling of British Government and he was not
prophet. He has banned the doctrine of Jehad which ia as essential for
Muslims as Prayer "NAMAZ". We are arguing that this was Mirza Kazibs hypocrisy.
First you said that in given period of 40 years how many Muslims were in
favour of Jehad. When I ask told you about foundation of Muslim league
and role of Mirza Kazib you have given the example of Zaffar who was of
after period . But I told you thayt it is not so important as he was employee
of Pakistani Government and given you the refernce of other Non Musllims
who were working as policy maker in Muslim countries and Muslims working
in Non Muslim even anti Muslim countries such as India and USA. And you
have raised the question of death of Hazarat Jesus Christ. You know in
the begning I raised the question that If it was so necessary to become
a Mahdi in that era Then why not Mahdi of Sudan. Who had Jehads against
British and Killed the General Gordon and Established a Muslim government
in Sudan where all laws of Allah were active.Mister Mirzai stick to the
point. Would you please tell me howmany mouths you have. Do not say "MURAGH
KEY AIK TAANG". Sometimes I think that brother Barbarian Khan was right.
In fact you are becoming Schizophrenic. If you are so interested see me
on discussion groups. Here I can not put a long disscussion paper. I know
I can tell you onthat point too very well. Just tell me first that when
H.Mariam AS gave birth to Jesus christ at uptill that she was Virgin or
not. If you will give me answer of this question then I will tell you Whether
H. Jesus Christ is dead or not. Do not be oversmart. Stay at the point
Ok. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Kazib and his followers.
RUMY <NA>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 04:17:45 (EST)
Mr Qadiani cultist named Abdul-Aziz You have this twisting
in your nature (because that's this cult's Second nature whenever a question
is put forward to Alkazib cult cheiftain Tahir He always put half a Dozen
twists in it and always avoid a clear answer). You are trying to create
this impression that Muslims are always preached killing and are fanatic
people. But mr. Cult follower you are wrong. Jihad is very wide term in
Islam. A Muslim is in a state of Jihad in every moment of his life. Jihad
against the temptations (internal negative forces), Jihad against the external
negative influences and Jihad (as a form of arm struggle) is only allowed
when non-Muslims occupy Muslim land and impose their anti-islamic intents
on the land where Muslims use to lived as majority community see the history
of last two hundred years hardly any Islamic country was involved in aggression.
But see the history and you see the so-called civilised nations invaded
and killed hundreds of million innocent people for their greed of power
and land (the very nations are sponsoring qadiani cult) That was the case
in India. It was occupied by force by Brits and only a tiny number of cunning
people enslaved the native people. Therefore whatever was in native people's
grasp (political struggle, civil disobedience and if possible arms struggle)
was justified and right to persue. You are simply misquoting the people
you mentioned Each of them were involved in their own way of Jihad and
many people which you never dare to mentioned were also involved some kind
of arm struggle against Brits. Many Pustoons tribals Sindhi's and Baluchies
were also involved in the arm struggle as well from 1957-1947. The British
occupation of India was a malice and unprovoked aggression there Allah
permits us to fight for independence and recapture our land and implement
the will of Allah in the land. Here is the Quranic references for this
struggle " fight, then , in God's Allah's cause and know that Allah is
all hearing and all knowing (2224). Now go and read the flattering slavish
statement of Mirza in the letters to queen where he is admitting that his
family provided men and horses for British occupation and fight against
Muslims. Does Maulana Zafar Maulana Shibli and all other you mentioned
ever write these words that they or their parents gave men and horses in
1857 ? You should be ashamed what Mirza and his family did and not only
that but Mirza wrote the pitiful letter to Queen and reminded her his and
his family's services to Brits. And Abdul Aziz Qadiani don't use word dead
for real Prophets(pbut). Muslims believes that it's a their (pbut) departure
from this world to the other world where they will be in the realm of Allah
but we can used dead for Mirza because the hell is worse than being dead
where Alkazib is living nowadays.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
- Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 03:51:32 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani. I have taken you wrong. I could not
understand that you are as dummy as one could be. You could not undertand
a simple point that attitudes of prophets in history was that they always
stood to oppose and resist tyrants and wrong doers and have abstrained
from all that might support or strengthen their position. The following
statement of H. Moses AS found in the Holy Quran is significant. " O MY
LORD. FOR ALL THAT THOU HAST BESTOWED THY GRACE ON ME NEVER SHALL I BE
A HELP TO THOSE WHO SIN. (Qasas, 17). Then see the Younas 88. And ALLAH
Himself instructs the believers to adopt the following attitude with regard
to tyrants and oppressors. " And incline not to those who do wrong or the
Fire will seize you. And ye have no protectors other than Allah Nor shall
ye be helped. Hud 113. Hazart Muhammad SAW his noble companions and his
true successors never cooperated with any power, which stood for false
hood and injustice. Their tongues were never soiled with praises and eulogies
of tyrants. The history of Muslims is replete with bold expression of protest
and revolt against oppressors. But Contrary to the illustrious teachings
of the Holy Quran and spirit of Islam and in violation of the noble example
of the prophets. Their companions and their followers. Mirza Kazib Who
was claimant of prophethood was full of praise for the greatest force of
evil of his age THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT. He never tires of praising that
very government which had been the usurper of Islamic dominions The greatest
rival to the temporal power of Islam. A great standard bearer of atheism
and moral degeneration. Mirza Kazib praises the British with a vehemence
which ill behaves any conscientious man what to say of a prophet. From
the very beginning he was so greatly concerned with praising the British
that there is hardly any work of his which has remained untainted with
flattery. We have already noted that in his first book BRAHIN E AHMADIA
vol. 1 he had lavishly praised the British and condemned the doctrine of
Jihad against them. He was so accursed person that he had recounted their
benevolent achievements and services had assured them loyalty and expressed
his views against the Doctrine of Jihad.
RUMY <na>
PK - Tuesday, February 10, 1998 at 03:39:14 (EST)
Mariyam I like to make a comment on your statement where
you basically try to smash on Fateh or Rumy who been trying to flourish
beauties of sword and its achievement in old days. You stated that present
time Muslim world is wagging its tail around Western countries, I am sure
you meant America. Though, I am not Ahmadi but I do believe it is true.
It is most fortunate time on Ummah of holy prophet Mohammed. Despite the
fact that Muslims are not on right track, politically or may be from your
point of view spiritually too. But I do like to inquire from you that why
founder of Ahmadiyya Community could abrogate Jehad? While he openly declared
that he is among Muslims and his laws and teachings are same as of Islam.
and he believes in Quran and its teaching, and also believes that the laws
of Quran will remain unchanged till day end. Don't you think there is bit
controversy?
Zumor <n.a>
Fr - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 18:00:53 (EST)
Some entries below I proved from Quran that Issa (AS)
is dead. None of the non-Ahmadis have countered my argument. Messrs Rumy,
Fateh Sher, Rashid and other non-Ahmadis, do you agree that Issa (AS) is
dead?. If you don't agree please give an argument from Quran. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 15:38:00 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (aliases Qadiani Buser & Barbarian Khan)
and Fateh Sher Yes it is a fact that I have changed my tactics in responding
to you. I have analyzed your writings and found that you do very well in
using foul language but you are afraid of using Quran as basis of an argument.
I have decided to use Quran to answer your comments and leave you to enjoy
indecent language. Let us come to the word Jehad. Quran says, (1). "So
obey not disbelievers and strive by means of it (i.e., Quran) a great striving".
(Al-Furqan 52) (2). "There should be no compulsion in religion. Surely
right has become distinct from wrong." (Al-Baqarah 256) (3). Permission
to fight is granted to those who have been wronged, have been driven from
their homes because they say 'Allah is our Lord'. Please show me where
it is written in Quran to wage Jehad with sword against a non-Muslim ruler
who does not interfere in the propagation and practice of Islam. Here is
list of people who agreed that the British did not persecute Muslims for
their religion i.e. for saying that Allah is their Lord, and this advised
the Muslims not to wage Jehad with sword against the British Maulana Maudoodi,
Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madni, Maulana Shibli Naumani, Shamasul Ulama Maulana
Nazir Ahmad Delhvi, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, Maulan Zafar Ali Khan, Official
Muftis of Mecca (Muftis officially recognized by the Saudi Govt. issued
a fatwa that waging Jehad against British by the Indian Muslims is not
permissible under Quran), Khaliftu Muslimeen Sultan Abdul Hamid II of Tirkey
(He prohibited Indian Muslims from waging Jehad with sword against the
British). Gentlemen were all these religious and political leaders misguided,
nay non-Muslims according to your definition. If Jehad against the British
were really required by Quran then there would have been at least some
so-called ulema like Dr. Rashid, Rumy, Fateh Sher etc. who preached and
practically waged Jehad. Also please tell me where did they fight Jehad
in India? (Challenge Insha Allah you will not be able to counter my arguments
based on Quran... Enjoy the use of some foul language). Wassalam
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 14:54:02 (EST)
Thank you brother Abdul.Now, instead of abuse,which is
the only thing Qadiani Buster and the rest can think off I will give you
some background info on ahmadiyat. It was fortold that in the latter days
when spiritual values will be in decline amongs the muslims the messiah
and mahdi will come to revive Islam and to unite the world under one religion(Islam.)This
was told in Hadith by the holy prophet as well as in the Quran.It was also
told that this mahdi would come before the end of the 14th century of the
muslim calender.It is now 1418 and well into the 15th century.Noone,other
than Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam has claimed to be the messiah.He came
before the end of the 14th century.Nobody else has.Therefor, for the intelligent
mind at least, without dougt Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the PROMISED messiah
and mahdi.It was also said that the mahdi would be born in the holy month
of ramadan.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was.It was also told that during that month
there would be an eclipse of the sun and a lunur eclipse.No matter what
your parents have told you about this eclipse, I saw a BBC documentary
on Ahmadiyat about 3 years ago and on that it was said that these eclipses
have been scientifily prooven to have happened.So this simply leads down
to the conclusion that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam is the massiah and mahdi.You
annot deny that the mahdi will come because it is in the Quran.You cannot
deny all the other things i have written because it is in Hadith.It also
clearly states a number of times in he Quran that Jesus is dead.How can
he come back to life.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came in the SPIRITof Jesus, not
as jesus.The Promised messiah said that within 3 centuries the world will
be united under ahmadiyat and islam.This does not mean that everybody in
the whole world will be ahmady.It means that the majority religion in each
country will be Idlam and the majority of the muslims will be ahmadies.In
other words there will be more ahmadies than any other thing.Already, within
100 years the ahmadiya comunity has established bases in 162 countries.Only
10 left.Within 10 years that will be done insha allah.I would like a reply
to what I have just written.NOT ABUSE.A proper mature adult reply rather
than saying words which you hear your parents saying to you. Rashid Hamjeed.
Rashid Hamjeed <No junk Mail>
- Monday, February 09, 1998 at 14:47:18 (EST)
Buster, why you had to waist so much space of his page
to write this all. I think if you just say "FATEH, RUMY etc, YOU ALL ARE
MY MEN" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you see we can understand you are happy with
their job.
muslim <Zerdari@buster's mom>
def - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 13:37:02 (EST)
Brother Barbarian Khan & Fateh Sher. Assalam-O-Alaikum
May ALLAH (SWT) bless you all for the Job well done against all these Murtadds
and the QADIANI CULT. These QADIANI Murtadds are a living example of What
ALLAH (SWT) said i.e. if the people dont want to listen and understand
"I PUT SEAL ON THEIR HEARTS " Same thing happen to MIRZA AGHLAM (GHULAM)
Murtadd. At the time of his miserable death, His Filthy tongue had been
blocked by ALLAH (SWT) so he (Mirza Murtadd) could not even repent for
his evil doings. On the TOP of that the S.H.I.T. came out of his mouth.
(ALLAH-O-AKBAR) . But these QADIANIS (MURTADDS) , looks like that they
cannot even see that far back. Look at their current PUNDAT MIRZA TAHIR.
How MANHOOS he looks when he show his "ASS LIKE FACE" on the TV screen.
Isn't that enough for these MURTADDS to learn and repent? I know Abdul
Aziz Murtadd got his green card through Mirza Tahir Murtadd, But this is
not the way to pay this favour back. HE (AbdulAziz Murtadd) exchanged his
"AKHIRA "for Green Card. What a deal. Same thing is with other Murtadds.
As brother FATEH SHER said these Murtadds specially ABDUL AZIZ will be
burried in his own Dug Hole, I would say HE (ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD) will be
burried in his own " DUNG HOLE" INSHA-ALLAH.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 08:09:55 (EST)
Abdul Aziz A few days ago brother Rumi rightly used a
word for Mirza Alkazib which was 'Bak' 'Bak' (In the context of Mirza's
useless and attention diverting debates with muslims and non-muslims).
It is regretable but same is the case with you. You simply come up with
silly and useless counter question like a typical Mohallay-Wali-Aurat (who
never listen to any reasonable argument And insist on her interpretation
of the issue because of her intellectual disability and ignorance). I put
forward a very reasonable question that was Mirza a prophet for Distt.
Gurdaspur or for the entire world that he was only interested in the matters
of India. Was the period from 1870-1910 was the golden era of humanity
that he preached so whole-heartidly in foavour of colonialists brits ?
Why are you comparing Mirza with Sir-Syed or any other muslims they were
ordinary human and subject to faults and errors. Why don't you admit that
Mirza was a tout of brits and did not contributed an iota To the well being
of muslims or human being he created divisions among muslims and served
his masters. Now his cult is doing the same.
Fateh Sher <n.r>
Ca - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 05:33:19 (EST)
Abdulaaziz Qadiani. It seems to me that you are becoming
Schizophrenic too. Rythem in your talk is gone what I have seen a year
ago. It looks to me that some people has caught you on the neck. Day by
day all the Qadianis are showing there reality. I had told one of my friends
that these Qadianis will die in there own dug well. The death of Mirza
ghulam and death of first and second Qadiani Pundats famous with the name
of Khalifas is an open warning of Allah SWT to all Qadiuani liars. Now
a time you are facing painfull life. You should know In holy Quran Allah
SWT has promised To put all liars in AZZAB UN ALEEM that is a painfull
life. As Mirza ghulam had As Mirza Tahir have and Many other accursed Qadianis
have and had. Brother Rashid. Rumy. Khalid Ismail and Fateh Sher along
with many other Muslim visitors of this site have provided you and all
visitors very good clues of lies of Mirza ghulam and all your khalifas
but you are very unlucky people. No doubt after death hell is waiting for
you but you have to suffer pain here in this life too. Qadiani buster is
real antidote of you Qadianis. I love the way how he shuts your filthy
mouths. Perhaps he is an engineer and knows how to shut the holes. Though
many Muslims do not appreciate his work but they should know that too keep
a place clean one should have to do rubbish removal job. Though he has
to wear Daungree for all the time but he is keeping the place clean. Otherwise
these Qadianis are very dirty as Mirza ghulam was. If some one likes to
talk with me personnaly or likes to threat me he can on my above given
email address. Khuda Hafiz.
Barbarian Khan <observor@hotmail.com>
AZ - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 22:11:38 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster) Thank you for another
volley of your usual foul language. Let me give you another verse from
Quran showing clearly that Issa (AS) is dead. Please refer to 5116-117.
According to this ayah when Allah (SWA) will ask Jesus on the day of judgement
"Did you say to peopletake me and my mother for two gods beside Allah"?
According to this verse he will say, "... I said nothing to them except
that which thou didst command me...I was a witness over them as long as
I remained among them, but since thou cause me to die, Thou hast been the
watcher over them." Dr. Rashid, the christians took Jesus (AS) and Hazrat
Mariam after Jesus left them. That is why he says that I do not know what
these people did after me. If the old Jesus (referred to as Prophet to
Bani-Israel) were to come back now then he will know and see for himself
that Christians have taken him and his mother as gods. In such a situation
how would he be able to say when questioned by Allah that he does not know
what these people did. Please try to reflect upon it carefully and instead
of using abusive language under a disguised name, pray that God shows you
the light of real Islam. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 22:00:12 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Qadianis like you and tyour Qadiani
Pandat Mirza Tahir Kazib not only supply DRUGS but "LADIES" too. Qadiani
Cult has all kind of specialities. But they are Masters in DRUGS and LADIES.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 20:22:02 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani Murtadd I have told you a number of
times that stop using the Holy Name of Our Beloved Prophet. Just call yourself
"QADIANI" . Because you belong to Qadiani Cult. The Most accursed group
of people on this planet. Just think of the event of the death of MIRZA
GHULAM KAZIB. What a disgrace. He was the FIRST CURSED person who died
In such a disgrace that His Own S.H.I.T. came out of his mouth. Even "IBLEES"
have'nt gotten this kind of disgrace. So It means that MIRZA GHULAM is
WORST than IBLEES. LAANAT ON MIRZA & HIS FOLLOWERS LIKE YOU.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 20:15:37 (EST)
HAMJEED QADIANI MURTADD You are talking about Br. Rashid
Burning into hell (Nouz-Billah). The Hell is for people Like MIRZA GHULAM
Singh, and His AULAD and His followers Like YOU. MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB is
already There and enjoying the company of His Gay Lover Hakim Noor and
His Illigitimate Sons Mirza Bashir etc etc. You are soon to follow. I gurantee
you that You are gona die exactly the same way MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB DIED
(With S.H.I.T. in His Mouth). But I am not sure that Whose S.H.I.T. is
gona be in your mouth, Your Own or MIRZA TAHIR'S. Even if It Mirza Tahir's,
I think it will be a blessing for you. Isn't it? Hamjeed Qadiani Gay.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 20:09:47 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani MURTADD Looks like that since when
your mother never told you about your real father, You are suffering fron
different phobias. I have told you that QADIANI BUSTER is more Ligit than
your actual father. I know it is very hard for a MURTADD like you to handle
this situation, but what can you do? Even Mirza Tahir Do not know the name
of his real father. Only on the papers Mirza Bashir is his father, but
some one else did the real work (MAY BE TICHI TICHI did the actual work).
The same way Mirza Ghulam Kazib dont know the name of his real father again
(TICHI TICHI did the actual job). That is the QADIANI tradition. One person
do the job, the other takes the credit. Abdul Aziz Qadiani Murtadd can
you write in your own words the disgraceful death events of MIRZA GHULAM
SINGH. ( I mean how that Laanati Mirza Got the Cholera, and how HE died,
and How Much S.H.I.T came out of his mouth.) If you dont write this event
about MIRZA LAANATI's death, I will say that YOU are GAY. (A QADIANI GAY).
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 18:04:43 (EST)
Ahmadi visitors to this page Please do not respond to
the foul language used by some individual on this page. To me it looks
like a strategy developed by the sponsor of this page. He knows that using
Quran as the basis of arguments no body can deny the truth of Ahmadiyyat.
He, therefore, tries to entangle you into side issues by using abusive
language. My suggestion to you is to always use Quran as a means of defence
and response. This is Dr. Rashid's weakest point. Let us hit him there.
Ler me show you how easy it is. The Quran says about those beings whom
some people invoke beside God," They are dead, not living, and they do
not know when they will be raised from dead". Every body knows that Jesus,
son of Mary (AS) is worshipped by christians and they invoke him daily.
Now tell me dear non-Ahmadi readers 'Is Issa (AS) not dead according to
this aya (1620). So please, non-Ahmadis, understand that your beliefs are
not according to Quran.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 12:43:38 (EST)
Dear Rashid (alias Qadiani Buster) The language you use
if going to be a help to Ahmadis in the long run (though they suffer from
it now; but this is nothing as compared the pain our master Muhammad (SAS)
suffered at the hands of Kafirs of Mecca). Your language will make visitors
to this page look upon you with disgust. Insha Allah then they will have
more time and reason to look at Ahmadiyyat. Thank you for the language.
Keep it up. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 12:31:44 (EST)
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RASHID ALI.You think
that the period of mubahila is over.You are mad.Where did you hear that.In
the Khalifas khutba he said 10 years, not 1.You must of heard wrong.I pitty
you.You have a hearing problem.The period of Mubahila will end in 10 years
( 9 from now).
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 11:44:06 (EST)
Rashid, you are trying to say that we ahmadies are drug
supliers.Well you are wrong let me tell you that much.It must be your lying
parents telling you some untrue rbish again.Either that or you are crazy
and mad up in the brain.The way you lie makes me suprised you even consider
yourself a muslim.Also, i would be afraid if I were you.Just because you
only know gorillas with 10 foot beards and I know someone who has a say
in Amnesty International do not be jelous.Also, I would not abuse him if
I were you.You will regret it the day you burn in hell.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 11:35:43 (EST)
Robert Hopkins Qadiani Punk You sound just like Qadiani
Pundat Mirza Tahir Kazib. You dont even know what the hell are you talking
about, unless you are on DOPE, then we can assume that you are insane (Out
of Mind just like MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB) He was always out of his mind because
ALLAH (SWT) punished him just filling HIS HEAD with S.H.I.T but nothing
else. Looks like that You do have the same kind of problem. I know that
you get free dope from the QADIANIS , Just use it and dont abuse it. They
got plenty, because that is the way they (Qadianis) lure the people like
you to theie CULT. The Other thing they oofferis the QADIANI HOORS (I mean
Qadiani Whores) Did you get one or not yet? If not then Check with Mirza
Tahir Kazib, He will arrange one for you. Without any discrimination.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 11:04:57 (EST)
Qadiani Buster nice try eh of being Hamjeed. Despite the
fact what ever you said, one thing is clear that you know the truth about
ahmadiyyat .
abc <n.a>
abc - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 09:03:33 (EST)
People, the project has now begun.Wewill be starting in
North America.Then moving on to Europe.Africa is no problem there.There
is no racism in africa.Then finally Asia. Adventually your turn will arrive.I
ONCE AGAIN TELL YOU THAT NO GOVERNMENT SINCE 1945 HAS ENCOURAGED RACISM.IT
SHOWS HOW BACKWARD PAKISTAN IS.
Robert Hopkins <Should not have
to >
- Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 07:15:51 (EST)
Qadiani Buster I do not no how you got and where you got
tjose claims about how our people died.But my friend, I ask you to listen
here.You are anti ahmady.Obviously so are your parents.Your parents presumably
were the lyers who told you this.Now if they are anti ahmady then quite
obviously they would lie to make ahmadiyat look worse.If it was not your
parents who told you.I would be interested to know who or where you found
out from. Secondly, our Khalifa is not Gay.He is married and has children.
Thirdly the messiah elesalams ass never bleeded either. He had a slight
problem called Diabatese which IF yoiu are a doctor ( YOU ARE PROBABLY
LYING) should know about. Now can YOU explain the death of Iqbal Khan.
Can YOU explain the death of Zia Ul Haq Can you explain the death of Leke
Ram Can you explain the death of Henry Martyn Clark Can youexplain the
death of Muhammed Hussain. All of these people have been challenged , excepted
the challenge and detroyed within the time.If you want to know where I
found this out from.I read it in a book about ahmadiyat by a Christian
man called Ian Adamson.Since he is Christian, he cannot be biased.YOU LOST
THIS ONE I AM AFRAID.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 06:55:30 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI MURTADD Hust answer this simple question.
If Your "Fag" MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB was a nabi (naouz-billah), then why did
HE (MIRZA GHULAM KANJAR) died in such a Disgrace (WITH S.H.I.T. in his
mouth) and his Stinking body was removed by the "BHANGIS". Dont you GUYS
feel ashamed of your claims, just by thinking of this event (MIRZA GHULAM
KANJAR'S Miserable death). Second Question Why MIRZA TAHIR IS GAY? Third
Question Who Busted MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S A.S.S., when HIS A.S.S. used to
bleed and then claimed afterwards that HE (MIRZA KANJAR) is having menses?
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Can u answer these simple questions? If you dont
answer these questions then It is guranteed that YOU are "FAG" too.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 23:33:32 (EST)
Maryam Qadiani MURTADDAH So You came out of MIRZA TAHIR'S
HARAM again? I know MIRZA TAHIR cant do any good to you, but since HE (MIRZA
TAHIR KAZIB) is addicted to "WHORES" like you, and you are ADDICTED to
"FAGS" like MIRZA TAHIR. So you are feathers of the same flock. I mean
Both of you are MURTADDS, BOTH OF YOU are GONA DIE IN DISGRACE ( Just Like
MURTADD-E-AZAM MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB, WITH S.H.I.T. IN YOUR MOUTH). So what
the heck.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 23:24:58 (EST)
Dr. Rashid Please note that there is an incosistency in
your sttaement. Dr. Iqbal was the translator of your Pir's book. You must
have been known to him and so will be your Pir. Do you want people to believe
that Dr. Iqbal had not heard of Mubahila? Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 22:29:47 (EST)
Mr. Khalid Ismail I am glad you are back. You have yet
to answer my question. Many Muslim ulema, born before Mirza Sahib's advent
interpretted 'Khatamannabiyyeen' as the last law bearing prophet. You call
us Kafirs for this please tell me if you call all those ulema of past also
Kafirs and non-Muslims? Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 22:24:17 (EST)
Messrs Fateh Sher and Rumy The issue that we have been
discussing is Mirza Sahib's position with reference to Jehad with sword
against the British. Finally you have given me the name of a person who
according to you did Jehad in 1857. Is this time period the same when Mirza
Sahib preached? Also remeber, Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, whom you yourself said
was a great benefactor of Indian Muslims said about those people who took
part in 1857 fiasco,"These people were drunkards, misguided, and corrupt
(haraam khor)". Now you call that person a great Muslim aalim. Who is right?
You or the great leader Sir Syed Ahmad Khan? (2) You said that prophets
fought against the alien rulers. Let us see that. Did Hazrat Issa (AS)
fight against the Romans? Did Hazrat Musa (AS) fight with sword against
the Pharaoh? Fighting with sword was not permitted to even holy prophet.
Only when the Kafirs came to attack did the prophet fight with sword. (3)
Since you have failed to provide the name of any Muslim aalim who preached
Jehad with sword against the British in the period of Hazrat Massihe Maud's
preaching life, I think I can now leave that topic and come to Ch. Zafarullah's
case. My simple question is that Choudhary Sahib was not loyal to Pakistan
then how come he remained Foreign minister og Pakistan when Quaidi Azam
was alive. After Quaid's death he continued as Foreign minister during
the life time of Liaqat Ali. On his death he remained the foreign minister
in Khawaja Nazizmuddin's cabinet. He left his position when elected to
United Nations. The only Pakistani who had the honor to hold the President
of the U.N. General Assembly. He was proposed by the Government of Pakistan.
Tell me gentlemen were Quadi Azim, Liaqat Ali Khan, and Khawaja Nazimuddin
less informed or intelligent than you two. Fear God before you tread the
path of lies and fabrications. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 22:17:45 (EST)
Here is another Proof for Qadianis Real Face Iran Condemns
Magazine Editor To Death for Spying, Reuter, January 28 An announcement
by an Iranian judge that prominent editor Morteza Firoozi had been sentenced
to death for spying was the first official statement in the case since
his arrest in May. Iranian newspapers on Wednesday had few further details
beyond Tuesday's announcement by the judiciary official to Iran's state
news agency IRNA. The official, a Shi'ite Moslem cleric identified only
as Qadiani, said Firoozi, former editor-in-chief of the daily Iran News,
had been in custody on spying charges since May, IRNA said. He did not
name any foreign country. Iranian newspapers, which last year carried brief
reports on Firoozi's rumored arrest, had said he was accused of spying
for the United States.... In August, Iran executed a retired air force
colonel for spying for the United States....
Khalid Ismail <na>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 21:31:07 (EST)
To all cultists who are covering for Mirza Alkzib - Please
read the full text of Mirza's announcement. He simply prayed for the sign
of Allah and also he later told that Allah has accepted his prayer. There
is no if,but,else,then,that,this in his letter It was simply he prayed
and asked for Allah's sign regardless what Sanaullah Sahib has to say.
Why you are putting your words in Mirza's foul mouth, He got what he asked
for from Allah. A clear sign according to Mirza's Pledge within one year
(Fa-Ta-Bay-Roo-Ya-O-Lil-Absar).
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 21:15:26 (EST)
Mr. Ali I think you translated following statement quite
right. Because in simple English I don't think there would be any better
translation than to simply say, "he (Iqbal) died in toilet". "he died of
suffocation while trying to repair a septic tank in his house"
A. Waraich <awraich@pathcom.com>
Can - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 21:13:08 (EST)
Rashid (nickname Doctor or engineer) why you have not
mention the response of Mulla Sunaullah? You might wana read what Maryam
posted.
Ali <nop>
Can - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 20:57:29 (EST)
Response of Sanaullah over the challenge of mubahillah
by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani ...Maryam "Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib
found that the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, had accepted his challenge
to a prayer duel (mubahilah) he was overcome by fear and began to make
excuses. He wrote I neither am nor do I claim like you that I am a prophet,
or a messenger, or a son of God, or a recipient of revelation. I cannot,
therefore, dare to enter into such a contest. Your purpose is that if I
should die before you, you will proclaim that as a proof of your righteousness
and if you pass on before me (a good riddance), then who will go to your
grave to call you to account? That is why you put forward such stupid proposals.
I regret, however, that I dare not enter into such controversy and this
lack of courage is a source of honor for me and is not a source of humiliation.
(Ilhamat Mirza, p. 116)
Maryam <.na>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 20:26:06 (EST)
One objection is raised that the Founder of the Ahmadiyya
Movement had offered a prayer in opposition to Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib that
of the two, the one who was in the wrong should die in the lifetime of
the one who was in the right and as the former died in the lifetime of
the latter it follows that he was in the wrong. The truth of the matter
is that among the divines who had been challenged to a prayer duel (mubahilah)
by the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, in his book Anjam Aatham, Maulvi
Sanaullah Sahib's name was also included. He was, however, afraid to take
up the challenge and never indicated any inclination towards accepting
it; but possibly under some pressure on the side of the non-Ahmadi public,
he challenged the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, to a prayer duel (mubahilah)
in his paper the Ahle Hadees of 29 March 1907. With reference to this challenge
the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, wrote in his book Ijaz Ahmadi I
have seen the announcement of Maulvi Sanaullah of Amritsar in which he
claims that has a sincere desire that he and I should pray that the one
of us who is in the wrong should die in the lifetime of the one who is
in the right. He added He has made a good proposal, I trust he will keep
to it. (Ijaz Ahmadi, p.14) The Promised Messiah, peace be on him, accepted
this challenge of Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib and announced If he is sincere
in his challenge that the untruthful one should die before the truthful
one then surely he will be the first to die. (Ijaz Ahmadi, p.36) When Maulvi
Sanaullah Sahib found that the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, had accepted
his challenge to a prayer duel (mubahilah) he was overcome by fear and
began to make excuses. He wrote I neither am nor do I claim like you that
I am a prophet, or a messenger, or a son of God, or a recipient of revelation.
I cannot, therefore, dare to enter into such a contest. Your purpose is
that if I should die before you, you will proclaim that as a proof of your
righteousness and if you pass on before me (a good riddance), then who
will go to your grave to call you to account? That is why you put forward
such stupid proposals. I regret, however, that I dare not enter into such
controversy and this lack of courage is a source of honor for me and is
not a source of humiliation. (Ilhamat Mirza, p. 116) This declaration by
Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib came as a great shock to his followers and he was
subjected to heavy adverse criticism, whereby he was moved to proclaim
Followers of the Mirza, if you are truthful, come forward and bring your
leader with you. The same place, namely, the Idgah of Amritsar, where you
have previously experienced heavenly humiliation in a prayer duel with
Sufi Abdul Haq Ghaznavi, is still there. So bring him who has challenged
us to a prayer duel in his book Anjam Aatham and confront him with me,
for so long as there is no final decision with the prophet nothing can
bind all his followers. (Ahl-i-Hadees, 29 March 1907) Maulvi Sanaullah
Sahib might have hoped that the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, would
pay no attention to his hyperbolic boast and that he would thus extricate
himself from an unpleasant situation. However, when the Promised Messiah,
peace be on him, read this announcement of his, he directed the Editor
of Badar to announce In reply to his challenge I wish to convey to Maulvi
Sanaullah Sahib the good news that Hazrat Mirza Sahib (the Promised Messiah)
has accepted his challenge. (Badar, 4 April 1907) This announcement upset
Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib and being frightened he announced I have not challenged
you to a mubahilah, I have only declared my willingness to take an oath,
but you call it a mubahilah, whereas a mubahilah involves the parties taking
oaths in a contest against each other. I have declared my readiness to
take an oath and have not issued a challenge to a mubahilah. Taking an
unilateral oath is one thing and mubahilah is quite another. (Ahle Hadees,
19 April 1907) Perceiving that Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib was not prepared
to take a definite stand, the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, published
an announcement under the heading Final decision concerning Maulvi Sanaullah
Sahib, and concluded it with the statement Now Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib may
write in response whatever he pleases. In case he accepts the challenge
to a mubahilah he should record his acceptance of it over his signature.
In answer to this, Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib wrote as follows The Quran says
that the evil-doers are granted respite by God. For instance, it is said
'The Gracious One grants respite to those who are in error' (1976); and
'We grant them respite so that they might multiply their sins' (397); 'God
will leave them to flounder on in their transgression' (216); and 'The
fact is that We provided for them and their fathers and they remained in
enjoyment of Our provision for a long time' (21 45). All these clearly
mean that God Almighty, grants respite and bestows long life on liars,
deceivers, disturbers of the peace and disobedient ones, so that during
the period of respite they should add to their evil deeds. (Ahle Hadees,
26 April 1907) Thus Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib not only rejected the challenge
of the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, to a mubahilah, but also put
forward a principle that liars, deceivers, disorderly people and disobedient
ones are granted long life. Thereupon God Almighty granted long life to
Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib according to the principle which he had put forward
and brought about the death of the Promised Messiah, peace be on him, thus
confirming that according to his own declaration Maulvi Sanaullah Sahib
was a disorderly and disobedient person and was a liar and a deceiver.
abc <n.a>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 20:20:17 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani - You have no feet to stand but you
always drift from the original topic and when me and brother Rumi show
you the mirror of reality you say No No lets get back to original issue.
You brought the issue of Zaffar-Ullah Qadiani and now you are running away
when told the reality. Go and read the history books of sub-continent and
you will find many names who were suffering and struggling during the period
of 1870-1910. Let me give you one example Hazrat Imdad-Ullah Mohajir Mikki
was a famous saint of his time. He with many of his disciples fought against
Brits in 1857 and on-ward Eventually arrested by Brits they want to hang
him but due to his strong support and love among the Muslim masses he was
put into prison and was tortured to extract a statement from him that Jihad
is no good for his followers which he refused to do so still they were
fearful so in mid 1870's he was forced to leave India and went into exile.
The reverent saint and old man went to holy city of Mecca and then many
of his disciples were pioneers of Sanusi movement against Italian and British
forces in north Africa and also many of his followers were active in Khalafat
movement and also in freedom of India. This is one example of great Muslims.
Now what was the character of Mirza writing pitiful flattering letters
to cunning and cruel monarch of British Empire and reminding her his loyalties
and work in 1857 when he and his father back-stabbed Muslims in their freedom
war and supported Brits by providing men and horses to crush the poor Muslims
of India. Shame on you Qadianis munafiqs. Answer to Brother Rumi's question
if you have some shame left in your brain, why you compare Mirza (who you
claim that this Lanati was a prophet) with ordinary Ulema. There is not
comparison between an alam and a prophet and their duties. Mirza was a
collaborator and fabricator and brought doom for his self as Brother Rashid
proved above how he boasted and then vanished with all the signs of disgrace.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 20:01:22 (EST)
Dear Mr Shamvil and other
Qadianis
Do not worry i am not hiding anywhere. I am still
around. I had accepted the challenge of Mubahila and alHamdolillah as a
freshest sign of Mubahila, I had spent the last days of this Mubahila in
al-Madina al-Munawwarah. Just returned from there, that is the reason you
did not see me on the Newsgroups.
As far as Dr. Iqbal Khan is concerned, yes he
did translate the 'infamous book 2 in 1' into Arabic 5 years ago and he
died of suffocation while trying to repair a septic tank in his house.
So what is the big thing. Have you forgotten
the manner in which Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani died?
Your logic is however amazing.
A person who has never heard of the mubahila,
did not accept the mubahila and was not an active anti-Ahmadiyya Campaigner
dies, and you consider it a sign of Mubahila victory.
On the other hand a person who is the biggest
enemy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani and his fraudulent doctrine, accepts
the challenge of Mubahila, is actively engaged in Anti-Ahmadiyya Campaign
in various parts of the world, lives happily till the end of the period
of Mubahila, spend the last few days of Mubahila in alMadina alMunawwarah,
YET you do not consider it a defeat for Mirza
Tahir Ahmad, the fourth Khalifa.
The original writer of the book '2in1', SYED ABDUL
HAFEEZ SHAH, 'my Pir' is very much alive and well, still actively engaged
in exposing the lies of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. I translated the book
into English almost 8 years ago, am the biggest enemy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Qadiani and his false prophethood, actively engaged in Anti-Ahmadiyya Campaign
and accepted the challenge of Mubahila, YET BY THE GRACE OF ALLAH, I AM
ALIVE, HEALTHY AND CHARGED WITH SPIRITUAL ENERGY AFTER SPENDING FINAL DAYS
OF RAMADHAN/EID/MUBAHILA IN AL-MADINA AL-MUNAWWARAH.
Dr. Iqbal was neither an active anti-Ahmadiyya
campaigner nor he accepted the challenge, in fact he never heard of this
challenge, and yet you are advertising his death as the 'freshest sign'.
If the manner of death is to be taken as a sign, then it is the death of
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani which should be taken as a sign. To remind you
and the readers about the death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of Ahmadiyya
Movement, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad prayed to Allah that if he is a Liar, he should
die either of Cholera or Plague. After 1 year he died of cholera lying
beside the toilet, soaked in his feaces, vomiting feacalent material. His
last words to his father-in-law were NOT KALIMA but: Mir Saheb! I have
been afflicted by Epidemic Cholera. Do not forget. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had
studied Hikmat. Now let me give you detailed references and let the readers
decide whether it is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's death which is the admonitory
sign or Dr. Iqbal Khan's death.
Mirza Ghulam wrote to his fiercest opponent:
"Dear Mr Sanaullah. Salaam on those who follow
the right path. My rejection and disapproval has been going on for a long
time in your magazine.You have always remebered me in your paper as Mardood,
Liar, Dajjal, corrupt and have advertised me all over the world that i
am a Fabricator and Dajjal, and Liar and that my claim of Maseeh Mowood
is absolutely a Fabrication. .....If I am such a Liar and FAbricator, as
you remember me in your paper, THEN I WILL DIE IN OUR LIFETIME, because
i know that a LIAR and Corrupt does not have a long life and at last he
dies as a failure withine the lifetime of his fierce opponents with great
humiliation and discontentment....If I am not a LIAR and FABRICATOR and
is honoured by the addresses of God and am Maseeh Mowood, then I hope by
the Grace of God that according to the Tradition of God you will not be
safe from the punishment of a LIAR. Thus that punishment which is not by
human hands but only at the hands of God, such as Plague and Cholera etc.
deadly diseases are not afflicted upon you than I AM NOT FROM GOD. This
is not a prophecy because of inspiration or revelation, rather just as
a prayer i have seeked justice from God and I pray to God.... {O my Master!
Baseer and Qadeer who is Aleem and Khabeer, who knows my inside the heart!
If this claim of Maseeh Mowood is just a fabrication of my egotistical
self, in Your Eyes I am Corrupt and Liar and day and night Fabrication
is my business, then O my Beloved Master! I pray with great humility in
your Presence that kill me in Molvi Sanullah and with my death make him
and his Jamaat happy. Ameen. But O my Perfect and True God! If Molvi Sanaullah
is not right in these allegations which he accuses me of, then kill him
in my lifetime, BUT not by human hands, rather by Plague or Cholera deadly
diseases, ... but i see that his tongue has crossed all boundries, he considers
me worse than those thiefs and dacoits....he considers me worse than the
whole world and has spread about me in far away places that this man actually
is corrupt and trader and Liar and fabricator and an extremely bad person....Thus
now I am now taking refuge in you and requests you that make true judgement
between me and Sanaullah. Whoever is in your eyes truly a Liar and corrupt,
KILL HIM IN THE LIFETIME OF TRUTHFUL PERSON, or afflict him with some serious
illness which is like death. O My Beloved Master! Do Just that. Ameen.}
In the end I request Molvi saheb to publish
this article in his newspaper and whatever he likes to write underneath
it. Now the Judgmentis in the hands of God."
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad,
Maseeh Mowood.
Dated 5th April 1907."
(Majmooa-e-Ishteharaat vol.3 p.578-579)
On 25th April 1907, following page of daily diary
of Mirza Ghulam was published in Akhbar alBadr, Qadian:
"Whatever has been written by Sanaullah, actually
its foundation has been kept by God. Once i meditated towards God about
it and in the night i recieved this inspiration (ujeebo dawat adDaaee).
For Sufis the big miracle is acceptance of prayers, rest is all its branches."
(Akhbar alBadr Qadian, 25th April 1907, p.7 Column3.)
This distressed prayer was accepted by Allah.
One year later Mirza Saheb died of Cholera on 26th May 1908.
This dying declaration of Mirza Ghulam is a proof
of that. Mir Nasir Nawab, father-in-law of Mirza Ghulam was at his bedside.
He had suddenly developed diarrhoea and vomiting. Mir Nasir in his biography,
Hayat-e-Nasir:
"When i reached Hazrat Saehb and saw his coondition,
then he addressed me and said:
'MIR
SAHEB. I HAVE DEVELOPED EPIDEMIC CHOLERA'.
I think After that He (MIRZA) did not say
anything clear till he died next day at 10 am."
(Hayat-e-Nasir, p.14)
Do not forget that Mirza Ghulam had studied Tibb
(Medicine) and when he said cholera, he knew what he was saying. Either
you tell me that your prophet/reformer lied at the time of his death or
else if he didn't then it is a fact that he was afflicted by Cholera and
died of it. What other condition can produce such severe dehydration especially
when all the doctors were present beside him? Amazing that you are saying
that it was a minor condition which result in such severe dehydration enough
to kill him. Do not forget that Mirza Ghulam had always had diarrhoea due
to his diabetes, so an ordinary illness would not cause dehydration.
Other thing worth noting was that his last words
were 'I have Epidemic Cholera' according to his father in law and not Kalima
or the name of Allah. You can imagine the realisation that must have dawn
on Mirza Ghulam at that moment that finally he has been struck by the most
dreadful sign of God's Anger - Cholera - and worst part of this realisation
was that God sealed his tongue and lips with intense dehydration so that
he had no chance of repenting from fabrications/lies and no chance of uttering
the Kalima. What a punishment!
The proof? Read the following:
"Huzzor could not talk two hours before death.
Dr Mirza Yaqoob Baig and Dr Syed Mohammed Hussein Shah were the treating
physician. Huzoor asked for paper and wrote on it:I have too much dryness.
I can't talk." and some other words he scribbled which could not
be read."
(Statement of 'SAHABI' of Mirza Ghulam Mohammed
Sadiq Qadiani, Akhbar
alFazl Qadian, vol.25 No.274, dated 24th November
1937)
Very distressing indeed! I invite all Qadianis/Ahmadis
to think which is the real sign.
May Allah have mercy on qadianis/ahmadis so that
they can see the truth and denounce Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah,
Rashid
Dr Syed Rashid Ali - Friday, February
07, 1998 at 15:10:21 (EST)
None of the true Muslims who ever lived maintained that
force should be employed in the spread of Islam. On the other hand, Islam
has always flourished on the strength of its inherent qualities of excellence.
Those who having the distinctions of being called Mulsims, yet believe
that Islam should be spread with force, do not seem to have any awareness
of the inherent beauties of Islam and end up roating thier tale around
those whom they considered their greastest Islam enemy, What a spirit O.
people this is a time to do Jehad with pen rather than sword. -----Maryam
Maryam <n.a>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 14:29:28 (EST)
so, he meant Iqbal died in toilet
ALi <n.o>
Can - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 14:09:17 (EST)
Response of Rashid (nickname Doctor) over the death of
Iqbal Dear Mr Shamvil and other Qadianis Do not worry i am not hiding anywhere.
I am still around. I had accepted the challenge of Mubahila and alHamdolillah
as a freshest sign of Mubahila, I had spent the last days of this Mubahila
in al-Madina al-Munawwarah. Just returned from there, that is the reason
you did not see me on the Newsgroups. As far as Dr. Iqbal Khan is concerned,
yes he did translate the 'infamous book 2 in 1' into Arabic 5 years ago
and he died of suffocation while trying to repair a septic tank in his
house. So what is the big thing
Ahmadi Muslim <n.a>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 13:40:18 (EST)
Messrs Rumy and Fateh Sher I have answers to all your
allegations, but as I said I don't want to muddy the water by raising new
issues. Please tell me the names of non-Ahmadi ulema who lived in India
during the same period as Mirza Sahib (AS) and preached Jehad against the
British. I am sure you will not be able to do so. This is the fullfilment
of Promised Mesiah's saying," God will give to my Jamaat such ulema whose
arguments will shut the mouth of my opponents. Gentlemen, if you say that
a true Muslim should have waged Jehad during Mirza Sahib's time then please
state their names and source of your quotation. If there were none then
please call those non-Ahmadi Muslims also Kafirs and Kazibs. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.0>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 13:37:55 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. You have quoted the name of ZaffarUllah
Khan who was Mirzai and Foreign Minister of Pakistan. And was either included
or leading many delegation. Has represented Pakistan in many Meetings .
Here you are right. But it does not prove the Qadianis role in Pakistan
Movement or It does not show the loyalty of Qadianis with Pakistan or Islam.
As you should know Mr. Tariq Aziz is Christian and was also Foreign minister
of Iraq and right hand of Suddam Hussain. And now a time he is some Deputy
primeminister type position in Iraq. Then Indias present Foregn secretary
is Muslim. Indias President Zakir Hussain was also Muslim. And there were
Some Muslim politician in Congress at the time of Partition. For example
Indias first education Minister Abualkalam Azad was Muslim. Eventhen It
does not prove Muslims loyalty with Hinduism or Christians loyalty with
Muslims. Another example of Pakistan is Raja TriDev Rai was Hindu and was
also Pakistani Minister who was included in that delegation who made Simpla
pact with India. Muammad Ali Jinah himself did work with Dada Bhai Noor
Jee who was a Hindu activist. But no one can say that Quaid A Azam was
loyal with Hindus. So many American loyal Christian are workin in Saudi
Arabia. It means it is no proof of Mirzais loyalty with Pakistan or With
Muslims if Zaffar was Pakistans FM. Point is in 1906 when Muslimleague
was founded to protect the rights of Muslims in India and Muslims were
working on right path. At that time false clamant of Prophethood Mirza
Kazib ghulam A qadiani was alive and active in useless debates. What was
his role in that event. And how much he contributed spiritually and finnancialy
in that movement.Sirsyed Ahmed Khan established Muslim University in India
for the prosperity of Muslims but What Mirza Kazib did.He collected the
fund from his followers and Brits government but where he had spent that.Dont
cry on Other Maulanas. Just watch Mirza Kazibs role. Abduaziz Mirzai for
last two years I am watching that you are crying on other ULEMAS and giving
the example of Zaffar Ullah khan. You should know it In USA Army there
are somany Muslims are working. And USA policies are not in favour of Muslims.
Therefore we cant say that being the government employee means all ummah
is loyal to that government. Mirza Kazib had his own vested interest in
this false claim. He was Brits agent and was working for them. And This
is the reason every Muslim is against the Mirzai. Otherwise even today
there are thousands of Mirzai are in Pakistan defence department and Management
key posts. This their job. As Hindus, christians and other nonMuslims are
serving in Pakistan even in Pakistans Army. So please bring some reasonable
proofs of Mirzai loyalty with Islam or With Muslim Countries. I think it
is enough for today. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani
and his followers.
Rumy <na>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 08:15:53 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. Question is not this what you are raising.
Question is role of a prophet. And did Mirza Kazib said that for this period
only Jehad is not allowed. Look it does not matter what were other Muslim
and non Muslim scholars or forces were doing. Question is that does Prophet
come to spread Message of Allah or to help the enemy of Islam. Mirza Kazib
was supporting Brits. While a true prophet always supports the Islam. A
true always fought against all those forces who were active against Islam.
See the history of all known prophets from Hazarat Ibrahim AS to Holy prophet
Hazarat Muhammad PBUH. But Mirza Kazib who is false clamant of Prophethood
and Immamat of Muslims had helped the antiIslamic forces to make them strong.
There are Many Muslim Scholars Who were fighting Jehad against Brits. Question
is not this that what they were doing. Question is What a prophet should
do. It is of little concern whether other Muslim ULEMA were doing Jehad
or not. If there is no difference between an ordinary scholar and a prophet
then what was need of prophet. If Mirza Kazib come to give strenth to enemies
of Islam then what kind of prophet was he. Do you think that afew meaningless
debates were enough to make him prophet or some abusive language was necessary
what he had used. This is no excuse what you people had put on yourweb
page that other Muslim Scholars were not preaching Jehad in India. Try
to understand my point That a true prophet always took stand against all
those who were not on right path and were enemy of Allah Message. Whether
those forces were of NAMROOD or PHAROAH or Abu Jahal. How strong was Pharoah
is not question how poor were Bani Israel is not question. Prophet did
what was the message of ALLAH. What a nonsense question you have raised.
Who cares about Zaffar. He didnt claim prophethood. Whole of life Mirza
did not wage Jehad against any non Muslim force. He kept Muslims busy in
fruitless debates with him. Only to divert their attention from real problems.
He had claimed a false prophethood and made them busy to debate with him
as it was more delicate problem for Muslims. Mr abdulaziz Mirzai our view
is that A prophet should not support enemy of Islam. A prophet should not
use filthy language. A prophet should not tell a lie. A prophet should
not start any meaningless debate or discussion. As Mirza Kazib Ghulam a
Qadiani supported Brits against Muslims. Mirza Kazib used filthy language
for his opponents. Mirza did lie to prove his false prophecies. And Mirza
was indulged in meaningless and useless discussions with nonMuslims and
Muslim scholars Therefore Mirza Kazib was not a prophet. He was a Munafiq
and Traitor of Islam. And does not prove Mirza Kazibs truthfullness if
some other people were using the same language or they were supporting
Brits or not. If some people use the unwanted language against Qadianis
or any other their opponent it does not allow a prophet to use filthy language.
In same way if Some SUNNI or SHIA or WAHABI or from any Muslim sect Ulema
did not preached the Jehad from 1870 to 1910 it does not prove that Mirza
was right to preach against Jehad. Jehad is a pillar of Islam. No one has
right to demolish it. Try to understand truth. Inshallah very soon I will
try to tell you more on this topic. Bye.
RUMY <na>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 07:23:30 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You guys are befooling not anyone else
but yourself. Tell me Mirza Kazib had appointed by devil as pretender Mehdi-cum-prophet
for Gurdaspur Qadian and Sailkot only . That he had asked muslims not to
struggle against Brits when they were capturing all north Africa Middle-East
and also imposing the worst oppression on Muslims of sub-continent. For
the refresher of your poor history knowledge Muslims were fighting against
Brits in all those areas in the shape of small and large Guerrilla warfare.
In sub-continent it was happening in NWFP, Sind and Baluchistan including
period of 1870-1910. Jihad of every kind is a collective duty of Muslims.
Jihad of every kind Muslim do because its Allah's decree not any Pontiffs
order. But your is a cult you always follow a cult Guru not Allah. You
tuned in to MTA (Munafaqat Televisid Allover) and listen to Pandit Tahir.
What a lanat Allah has put on his face. Yes you penetrated in League when
you saw Pakistan is inevitable but what a mess Zafar-Ullah Qadiani made
in boundary commission. The outcome of boundary commission was a total
disaster for Muslims thanks to Zafarullah Qadiani. Then in Kashmir you
tried to create your cult state thanks God that Muslims got awareness and
they distanced themselves from so-called Kashmir Committee. Hakim Noora
spend many years as a righthand man of Maharaja of Kashmir and was part
of all conspiracies against Muslims from Hindus. Mirza many time went there
to visit collaborator Hakim Noora. Since that time they were planning to
convert very simple Kashmiri Muslims into their cult and create a cult
state which later they tried in 20's and 30's but their plans were foiled
and all prominent Muslims exposed qadiani covert plans and distanced themselves
from this it.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 21:06:26 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Please spit your anger. Let us discuss things
at a civilized manner. (1). You said that I am trying to squeeze time frame
for you to come up with examples of non-Ahmadi ulema, in India, who had
preached Jehad with sword against the British. It was my typo and I apologize
for it. Take the period as 1870-1910. I have taken this period because
the Promised Messiah advised against Jehad with sword in this period. Now
would you please give me the names of non-Ahmadi ulema who did preach Jehad
with sword against the British. (2). When Muslims of India were fighting
for Pakistan, Ahmadis were in the fore-front. Quadi-Azam who had left India
and settled in London, after having been disappointed by the Muslim leaders
politics, was convinced to come back to India by Maulana Dard a missionary
of the Jamaat Ahmadiyya. For a proof please see the biography of Quadi
Azam by Mr Jaffery (a non-Ahmadi himself). When Quadi Azam decided to come
back to India in a farewel dinner he specifically mentioned that he decided
to return to India because of Maulana Dard. Quadi Azim appointed Choudhay
Zafarullah Khan as advocate of the Indian Muslims in boundary commission's
hearing. Ch. Zafarullah Khan not only advocated the case of Indian Muslims
but he did a great service to the cause of the Arab world. If you look
at the messages the Arab (Saudis, Egyptians. Palestinians, etc) leaders
sent to Ch. Zafarullah thanking him for the help, you will find out how
Ahmadis have been serving the Muslim world. Now please tell me , Was Quadi
Azam more informed of the services rendered by Ahmadis in the creation
of Pakistan or you? I agree with you that in earlier period, like many
other Muslim leaders, the second Ahmadi Khalifa Hazrat Mirza BashirudDin
Mahmood Ahmad (RA) advised Muslims to remain a part of India. He said that
we shall be able to convert Hindus to Islam if India remained united. (2).
In Kashmir when Indian forces were slaughtering the Muslims, only Jamaat
Ahmadiyya created a fighting force to help the Kashmiris. The name of the
force was Furqan force. Ahmadis paid for this force. No other religious
party came up with any such force to help Kashmiri Muslims. (3). Now could
you please give me some names of Muslim ulema, contemporaries of Mirza
Sahi (AS) in India living under the British rule who preached Jehad against
the British. I repeat my previous comment that Maulana Muhammad Hussain
Batalvi, Sye Ai-Hairi, Syed Ahmad Sahib Brelvi and Maulana Maudoodi advised
Muslims not to wage Jehad with sword against the British. I expect that,
being a scientist you will answer my question in a straight forward manner
and not muddy it by bringing in new issues. Thank you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 12:39:55 (EST)
Messrs Abdulaziz Mirzai and Hamjeed Qadiani. Mr.Robert
is friend of your uncle tom. Is it.And I think Queen Elizebith was aunt
of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani. Very nice I appreciate your PR. And now
to Abdulaziz Mirzai. What a nonsense reasoning he has. And he is shrinking
every day. Very first you abdulaziz Mirzai given the period of 1870 to
1908 then started shrinking and now 1890 to 1910. I always appreciate your
way. What a funny man you are. You know we had started this discussion
when I told you about MUHAMMAD AHMED MAHDI OF SUDAN who had fought many
Jehad battles with Your uncles friend Brits and defeated them in all. Founded
a rein of Justice on earth. Killed the General Gordon " Might be uncle
of Mirza Kazib" . And know you are asking who had started wage sword jehad
against Brits. Very nice . You are going very nice. O illitrate qadiani
do you know All India Muslim league was founded in 1906. If Mirza Kazib
was the representive of Muslims where were he at that time or after. Muslims
were uniting to get freedom and Mirza Kazib was singing the songs of his
uncle Lord Kurzon. In 1905 when Brits and Hindus were slaughtering Muslims
in bengal on dispute of Division of Bengal. Where was the Mirza Kazib.
He was abusing the Muslims with his uncle Lekh Ram. And do you think is
it way of prophets what Mirza Kazib had adopted to praise the Enemies of
Islam. Abdualaziz Mirzai why dont you Mirzai accept that you are AntiMuslim.
Do you know Munafiqs are worst creature on earth. Mirza Kazib ghulam a
qadiani was money mad and mentally sick person. Why you are ruining your
end life following him. Almighty Allah has given you chance to repent.
Dont ruin your end. Have not you seen how mirza kazib died in toilet with
in his mouth like a pig. How many signs of his hypocrisy you will deny.
How many times you will deny his writings. O mirzais there is no way to
escape. If you want to save your end life. Just repent and ask forgiveness
from Almighty Allah and leave this evil Mirzai way. This Mirzai way will
lead you to hell. I am warning you O Qadianis. Leave Devil disciple Mirza
Tahir alone. He is born to burn in hell. When you give the false excuses
to justify Mirzas Bulls. Can not you understand that you are doing an evil
job. Astonishing for me. Laanat Of Allah upon Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani
and all his family till day of Judgement.
Rumy <na>
PK - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 10:01:34 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd I know that you play "GAY" games
with Robert Hopkins. thats why you are mentioning him too much into your
writings. Any how that is QADIANI way, all the Qadianis (Murtadds) like
you like White Skinned People. Just like Your Mirza Ghulam Kazib who used
to praise BRITTS. Hamjeed Murtadd looks like that Robert Hopkins is your
lover. Isnt that true? Take him to your Pandat MIRZA TAHIR SINGH, I gurantee
you HE (MIRZA ) will like it. It is good for some change too.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 06:55:46 (EST)
Hamjeed qadiani Wrath of S.H.I.T. is gona come to youy
sonn, just like It came to Your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB LAANATI. Did you ever
read, or did your MAMA ever tell you that How did MIrza Ghulam Kazib Laanati
die? Simple as with S.H.I.T. in his mouth, Miserable way. That was Heck
of a LAANAT of ALLAH (SWT) on Youyr MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. and that is in
the Guinnis Book of World Records. (Only MIRZA GHULAMS NAME In THIS CATEGORY)
the First Person (Laanati) who died with S.H.I.T. in His mouth.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:17:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd My e-mail changes every time,
yoiu are very much concerned about that. but you are not concerned bout
when your MAMA changes your father evry time. That looks normal to you?
May be that is QADIANI way. Tell your mama I said HAY.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy mirza.Con>
Pk - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:12:49 (EST)
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Maryam <sfjksj@klasjf.com>
fs; - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:03:28 (EST)
Omar Qadiani Murtadd; Looks like that you are a new "LONDA"
into MIrza Tahir Laanati's HARAM. Now I know why Mirza Tahir Kazib Like
LONDAS like You. Because HE USE Them both ways (Like Grandpa Like Grandson).
Mirza Ghulam Kazib used to do the same. Just read His revelations, when
he claimed that HE (MIRZA GHULAM LAANATI) used to have MENSES. actually
TICHI TICHI busted his ass, an he claimed it as menses. Omar Murtadd, Just
be careful, dont Play TICHI TICHI with MIRZA TAHIR, OtherwiseHe is gona
get all the Credit, just claiming that HE is getting HIS menses JUST LIKE
HIS LAANATI GRANDPA. and you will get nothing but a Green Card.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:47:07 (EST)
Dr Ijaz Murtadd Do you remember when MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB
wrote in his book that HE (MIRZA LAANATI) used to have menses? as a matter
of fact MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB was a GAY. He liked to have rough sex. One night
TICHI TICHI SCREWED HIM UP in a very rough way and BUSTED your Mirza Ghulam's
A.s.S. Mirza was bleeding , thats what he (Mirza Laanati) claimed afterwards
that HE (MIRZA) is having menses. Dr. Ijaz Murtadd; I wana ask you . Did
you ever have menses like your Mirza Ghulam Laanati? If not then you are
nort HIS real follower (You are not real Mirzai) To be a Mirzai You have
to have MENSES just like Mirza Ghulam Kazib. That is the SEAL of Mirza's
prophethood.
Qadiani Buster <QB@ Shitty
Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:35:27 (EST)
Dr. Ijaz Rauf Qadiani Murtadd Where you been man all this
time. Probably Milking Mirza Tahir Kazib (through His Only UDDER). Dr Ijaz
Murtadd Baby you are talking about the death of Dr. iqbal Khan. What about
the Miserable, Shameful, and disgusting death of Murtadd-e-Azam Mirza Ghulam
Kazib (With S.H.I.T in his mouth) how could you forget that inspiring event
for QADIANIS. The same way your father (the one who has his name on your
birth certificate) not the real one. Dont worry I am not gona tell these
people who your mother was fooling around with. By the way Do you know
who your real father was. Because your mama told me that she is not sure
about your real father because SHE was fooling around with a bunch of neighbors
(Qadiani way) and also at that time there was no way of checking your genetic
links, scientifically. Dr. Ijaz murtadd How could you forget the miserable
and disgusting death of Mirza Bashir , Hakim noor din and other Qadiani
Londas. Shame and Laanat on u. First wash your own a.s.s. and then tell
some one else that your D.I.C.K. stinks.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY
Mirza .Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:28:55 (EST)
Testing
QB <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:19:42 (EST)
Messers Fateh Sher and Rumy Both of you say that Mirza
Sahib flattered the British by advising Muslims not to wage Jehad with
sword against the British. I have two questions. (1). Were there any Muslim
ulema living in India under the British occupation, particularly the period
1890-1910 when Mirza Sahib preached his philosophy, who declared Jehad
with sword against the British? If your answer to this is no then would
you not call those ulema either cowards or in manifest error? (2). Here
are the names of some non-Ahmadi ulema who advised Muslims not to wage
Jehad with sword against the British Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Sahib of Batala,
Syed Ali-al-Hairi (a Shia mujtahid), Syed Ahmad Sahib Brelvi, Maulan Maudoodi
Sahib. I can give you more example. Did these non-Ahmadi make a mistake
in their decision? If your answer is yes then please tell me what additional
information you have now that was not available to those ulema and thus
they erred in their judgement? For reading the writings of the Promised
(AS) please visit the web site .alislam.org I think we settle this matter
first. So please answer the above two questions. Let the other things be
pended. Thank you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:09:07 (EST)
All I have to say is that Rashid.ali is obviously a mad
mullah with too much time on his hands and if he only spent learning about
Islam, which tells all muslims to allow any faith to practice freely, MR.rashid
would not not have opened this web-site and thus the gates to hell. Personally
I think he's quite PATHETIC. Get a life..
omar. ahmad <omar.ahmad@utoronto.>
can - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 19:53:27 (EST)
Dr. Rashid Ali Syed sahib, We have not seen you on the
newsgroups for a long time. Where are you hiding after accepting the Mubahila?
Would you be kind enough to come out of your hiding place and tell the
readers of this newsgroups about the freshest sign of the Mubahila? Could
you please tell us about Dr. Iqbal Khan the translator of your pir's book
"two in one" into Arabic? Could you please tell us how did he meet his
fate? Where did he die? Who removed his dead body from the place he died
in? Your comments will be highly appreciated. Sincerely, Dr. Ijaz A. Rauf
Department of Physics, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada,
Dr. Ijaz A. Rauf <irauf@phys.ualberta.>
Can - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 17:57:00 (EST)
RASHID ALI You can say proudly that anti ahmady literiture
is available in 13 languages.Well ahmady literature is available in English,
French,German,Spanish,Bosnian,Urdu,Chinese,Japanese,Thai,Persian,Italian,Turkish,Dutch,Portugese,Malay,Korean.
Plus 26 of the languages of Africa and 9 of the languages from South America.And
you say that we refuse to translate Mirza Ghulam Ahmads elesalam writing.I
really am begining to feel sorry for you know.Except defeat, and stop spreading
lyes, maybe then the wrath of the fire shall not reach you.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 14:15:19 (EST)
I do not know where you heard all of that stuff about
the deaths of ahmadies from.BUT what about the death of Iqbal khan,what
about the death of Zia Ul Haq, what about the death of lek ram, what about
the death of those 30 maulvies who all went for hajj to pray for the destruction
of ahmadiyat.They were killed in the fire last year in Mecca.Still nobody
knows who caused it, because almighty allah caused it.So it seema we are
winning in the mubahila.Thats all I want to say to you. RASHID ALI Why
do you keep going on about face to face mubahila.The Khalifa is not that
stupid.He knows what you are aiming at.You will just end up abusing him.Just
say, yes I accept the mubahila in your next Qadiyani Buster posting. Then
you will meat your doom.Soon after.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 14:05:12 (EST)
Qadiani buster Your e-mail address seema to change every
day.Also, I would stop spreading lies about ahmadyat.Sooner or later you
will be smashed to bits just like your bum chum Iqbal Khan
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:57:30 (EST)
VICTORY FOR THE AHMADIESAt last, it seems as if we have
won the mubahila.The disgracefull Iqbal Khan has been destroyed from the
face of the earth.No, my friend, I listaned to the news clearly enough
and I read the news clearly enough, Iqbal Khan is dead, it was not a ahmady
auther, it was Iqbal Khan.VICTORY FOR THE AHMADIES, MASHALAH.LAHILAHAILALAHOMUHAMMADURASOOLULAH.
RumyThe promised messiah did write 30 books.The other 50 things he wrote
were not books of himself,(of his own writing).In those other books he
anilized the Quran ,Bible Torah etc.In those books therefor it could not
possibly have said any of the rubish you have said.My Uncles sons friend
who as i have mentioned before is Robert Hopkins from amnesty International
has informed his senior membors during a meeting. A project to end discrimination
of sect or religion will begin soon.Your finished.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:48:49 (EST)
Dear readers. Some Mirzai has listened the news wrongly.
Actually one Mirzai author of three in one a book in reply to two in one
died in this way. Perhaps he could not listen the news properly
USMAN <nahine>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 10:00:48 (EST)
Hamjeed and Abduaziz Mirzai. For your kind information
Mirza Kazib wrote more than 80 books in his accursed life. And you have
mentioned only 30 books. TABLEEGH E RISALAT is in 3 or more volumes and
it is compiled by Mir Qasim Ali Ahmadi and author is Mirza Kazib. I have
its three volumes in my library. Then ANJAM E ATHAM is well famous book
of Mirza Kazib. Just ask from some other Mirzai. NAJAM UL HUDA. NUR AL
HAQ, ZAROORAT AL ILHAM. SHAHDAT al QURAN. ARABA IJAZ E AHMADI etc are also
his books. If you think my references are not correct. Just say the author
of TABLIGH E RISALAT. SHAHDAT UL QURAN. ANJAM E ATHAM and all other books
I mentioned is BASTARAD. LIAR. MUNAFIQ AND HYPOCRITE. Laanat of Allah upon
him and his all family. If your seniors had hide Mirza Kazibs books from
scene it is not my problem. Be sure my library is more richer than yours
one. Yes there is an other book of Mirza Kazib you did not mention is SITARA
E QAISARIA. It is collection of Mirzas letters and some other writings.
As tomorrow some one will give you the reference of Roohani Khazain and
you will say NO IT IS NOT MIRZAS BOOK. There are some books which are collection
of Mirza Kazibs work and these all are compiled and printed by Mirzai Movement.
Mister Mirzai never never deny the truth. But whom I am telling. One who
can deny the truth of Finality of Prophethood of Hazarat Muhammad PBUH
. What we can expect from him. Mirza Kazib himself was of double standard
and hypocrite. How will be his followers. Common sense does not allow that
a Mirzai can speak a truth. What is reality of Mirzait one can judge with
a little observation that There is a grand conflict between Muslims and
Mirzai but on the other hand there is friend ship between Mirzais and all
other Anti Islamic groups. As they have symbiotic relationship. Their cause
is one. That is enmity of Islam. Therefore it is not big thing what you
Mirzai and your friends are saying. Your Mirzai Pandat every day spits
fire against Islam and Islamic countries. I do expect from you that you
Mirzai can deny the writings of Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani because I
have seen you Mirzais to denying their fathers too. Mr Hamjeed do not feel
it pl. What I am telling you it is truth and truth is always bitter. Laanat
of Allah upon Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani and his followers.
Rumy <na>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 09:55:46 (EST)
I don't know from where you concocted the story of Dr.
Iqbal's Death but What about Mirza Ghulam's infamous and miseable death
even his tong ceased to spit any words for many many hours ? What about
the death of Kazib Nurruddin who fell from horse and went into comma for
many days and died miserably and also don't forget the paiful death of
pervert Mirza Mehmood Mian who stayed paralysed for many years. Put all
of these events in Qadiani victory book as well . Afterall every perverted
act in qadianism is a victory for the cult.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 06:18:57 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You only believe what Pandit Tahir's
propaganda machinery is feeding you. Tell me What is your Definition of
Jehad. Your Lanati Mirza abolished any struggle against Britishers and
gave caution to muslims that this is forbidden. When the muslims and others
were victims of brutal occupation. Islamic Jehad does not permit aggression
against any country or people who are in peace with Muslims but if someone
fights against Muslims and occupy their land. Then it is duty of the Muslims
of that country to straggle against the aggressors with every possible
mean (arm struggle political struggle etc). Muslims of occupied lands are
sacrificing their lives and every thing to liberate their lands throughout
the world. You Qadianis has no guts for these sacrifices, the only thing
you are interested are green cards money and comforts. Look the tiny nation
like Chechinyia where small Muslim nation fought a heroic war against the
might of Russia and forced their army to leave their land and the day is
not far away when they will get full independence. Small Kasmiri Muslims
put lot of Blood in their sacred cause and India is forced to maintain
half of its army in Kashmir with rock-bottom morale. Insha-Allah one day
they will be liberated. As for as the Islamic Dawah is concerned you are
simply blind. Hundred of thousands of Muslim preacher goes all around the
world to spread the word of Allah in non-Muslims In a recent documentary
from BBC it is stated that Islam is the fastest growing religion in US
and Europe. but you qadiani always take sides with the people who are afraid
of Muslims and enemies of Islam there fore they support cult like Qadianism
on the name of so called human rights. Please ask Pandit Tahir to offer
Robert some charming qadiani girl, May be his grand daughter don't miss
that chance because afterall Robert has white skin (If he is not from Sailkot
Pakistan) he seems quite sympathetic with qadiani cause this is a golden
opportunity for you guys to bring him into your cult's fold.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 05:28:25 (EST)
An Outstanding Sign of the Victory of Mubahala .................................................
BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHIM Almighty Allah says in the Holy Qur'an Allah
has decreed that "Surely I and My messengers will prevail" Assalamo Alaikum
wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Dr. Iqbal Khan is the person who translated
the infamous book called "Two in One" into Arabic. He recently died a despicable
death. He fell into pit of filth and his body was removed from the filth
by local Civil Defence authorities. Allaho Akbar. IS THIS NOT A SIGN OF
THE "CURSE OF ALLAH ON THE LIARS|" THESE ARE THE WORDS WHICH THE TRANSLATED
BOOK CONTAINS IN BOLD LETTERS ON THE LAST PAGE. All Ahmadies should feel
free, and are encouraged to, share with all their friends and the opponents
of Ahmadiyyat, the news and its implications. Tell us now, Mr. Rashed Syed,
has the curse of Allah already fallen upon you or not. The miserable and
despicable death of the translator of the ignoble and lie-filled book "Two
in One" is a sure sign of the victory of Ahmadiyyat in the Mubahala". WAssalam
Yours in the service of Islam Munawar A. Saeed Chairman, Internet Committee
Jama'at Ahmadiyya USA.
Readit <read@always.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 23:55:31 (EST)
An Outstanding Sign of the Victory of Mubahala ..........................................................
BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHIM Almighty Allah says in the Holy Qur'an Allah
has decreed that "Surely I and My messengers will prevail" Assalamo Alaikum
wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Dr. Iqbal Khan is the person who translated
the infamous book called "Two in One" into Arabic. He recently died a despicable
death. He fell into pit of filth and his body was removed from the filth
by local Civil Defence authorities. Allaho Akbar. IS THIS NOT A SIGN OF
THE "CURSE OF ALLAH ON THE LIARS|" THESE ARE THE WORDS WHICH THE TRANSLATED
BOOK CONTAINS IN BOLD LETTERS ON THE LAST PAGE. All Ahmadies should feel
free, and are encouraged to, share with all their friends and the opponents
of Ahmadiyyat, the news and its implications. Tell us now, Mr. Rashed Syed,
has the curse of Allah already fallen upon you or not. The miserable and
despicable death of the translator of the ignoble and lie-filled book "Two
in One" is a sure sign of the victory of Ahmadiyyat in the Mubahala". WAssalam
Yours in the service of Islam Munawar A. Saeed Chairman, Internet Committee
Jama'at Ahmadiyya USA.
News <news@news.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 23:53:07 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Laanat on you and upon your
Mirza Ghulam Kazib and his Aualaad. You call my language INDECENT? What
about MIRZA'S FILTHY MOUTH he used against Muslim Ummah and the trashy
language of Mirza Tahir Kazib he use every day against Muslim Ummah? Shame
on you. Look at the books of Mirza Ghulam Kazib. They are worst than the
books of "WAHI WAHANWI". But for you MURTADDS those books are more than
"GRANTH" & "BHAGWAN GEETA". Just Think before you spit the S.H.I.T
out
of your mouth, just like MIRZAI PANDAT.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 20:36:44 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Looks like that your brain got
nothing but S.H.I.T. in it, just like Mirza AGHLAM KAZIB. I have told you
that "QADIANI BUSTER" is more real than your father. I know that you have
lost confidence about your father (Since you dont know who the hell your
real father is) but THIS QADFIANI BUSTER is as much real as much the MISERABLE,
SHAMEFUL, DISGUSTING and DEGRADING death of your MIRZA GHULAM (AGHLAM)
kazib. Stop blaming Brother Rashid, Just blame your father, who never showed
up after one night stand with your MAMA.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 20:30:38 (EST)
tets
test <tets>
tet - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 18:25:30 (EST)
Dr. Rashid Ali (alias Qadiani Buster) Please stop being
a clown. Writing under the name of Qadiani Buster is not a brave act. Come
in the open and let us argue like grown up intelligent people. Thanks.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:37:14 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher I am still waiting for your response. Qadiani
Buster did respond to my comments referred to you. As you know he writes
nothing but indecent laguage. I, therefore shall appreciate if you answer
my comments. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:34:26 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Rafizi Since you happen to be a Rafizi Shia I
thought I would suggest to you to visit 'sipesahaba' web site. You will
find out that according to recognized ulema of Ahl e sunnat Shia are non-
Muslims. If you doubt my statement then please visit their site and read
these for yourself. This might open your eyes. When the dragon of discrimination
becomes strong the no body is safe from him. Today you are cursing us Ahmadis
but beware, tomorrow you will be the target of the same discrimination.
Still there is time to see reason. (2). You say that we pay a cut to Mirza
Tahir Ahmad (ATBA) from our monthly income. Please note that the contribution
each Ahmadi does not go th our Khalifa. There are auditors of the Jamaat
and even the Govt auditors have access to these account, if they want,
because the Jamaat is a non-profit organization. Additionally as an Ahmadi
our Khalifa himself contributes at a rate even higher than we normally
Ahmadis do. However, those people who never pay anything in the way of
Allah do not know the taste of such givings. Allah returns us many folds.For
an experience please try giving charity. You will find how happy are those
people who give what Allah (SWA) calls Qard e Hasana. (3) Please quit referring
to non-existant writings. You are a researcher. It does not behoove you.
Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:29:18 (EST)
Shiting in the pants you are.That amnesty International
person is my uncles sons friend if you wanted to know.Thats how he found
out.Your ed
An Ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:44:30 (EST)
YOU SO CALLED QADIYANI BUSTERYour e-mail address changes
everyday does it.
An ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:42:19 (EST)
I still have had no other explanations for my theory.We
are victorious once more with the grace of Allah.You seem to be ing in
your pants.Amnesty have caught you.
An Ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:40:46 (EST)
Before you try to say that I am an ahmady in disguise.Which
frankly is complete rubish, i tell you that I have alerted my senior coleigue.He
said that he knew of the racial discrimination of Pakistan and a project
was about to be started to end it.This I'm afraid could lead to the permanent
closer of web sites of this kind in a few years. Bye for now, Robert Hopkins(
amnesty International)
Robert Hopkins <no need to>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:28:25 (EST)
RUMY You want to know the names of the books writtn by
THE PROMISSED MESSIAH.I will tell you the names of all of them. I am sure
you know of a person called Ian Adamson. He has written many books on the
lives of the promissed messiah and the present khalif. At the back of each
of his books. He has given the names of each and every book written by
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam who IS the promised messiah. I cannot seem
to find the books you have mentioned. When I ask for them at the mosque.
They do not come up on the computer. They quite obviously, do not exist.
The names are as followes Braheen I Ahmadiya, Purani Tahirain,Sabz Iar,
Fat he Islam, Tauzeeh e Maryaam,Izala e Auham,The Ludihana debate, Asaami
Faisla, Nishaan e Aadamani, Aaeena e Kamalaat, Barakat ud duaa,Hujjatul
Islam, jang e Muqadaas,Nur ul Haq, Sirrul Khalifa,Saat bachen, Islami Usul
kie philosophy,Kitabul Bryaa,Ayyamus Sulh, Masih Hindustan main,Tiraqul
Kulub,Khutba Ilhamiyya,Lujaa tun noor, I Jaaz ul Masih, Ek Ghalati, Kashti
e noor, Tazkiratush,Islam ur is mulk ke mazaahab,Al Wasiya and Haqiqatul
Wahi.So those books you mentioned are made up.These are the true books
so think twice next time you miserably fail to make a false judgement.ALSO,
JUST BECAUSE AN AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PERSON HAS FOUND OUT EXACTLY HOW
BAD IT IS YOU ARE BECOMING SCARED AND WORRIED.YOU KEEP THINKING IT IS ME
WHO PRETENDED TO BE ROBERT BUT I TELL YOU FROM NOW, IT WAS NOT.THEN YOU
WILL BE PRAYING FOR FORGVNESS WHEN YOUR COUNTRY IS IN RUIN AND SO ARE YOU.ROBERT
WAS BEING ROBERT.I COME ON THIS WEB SITE AS ME AND NOBODY ELSE.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:16:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Mirzai. Would you please tell me how many books
Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani wrote in his life and what are the names of
those. I am sure you don't know. Because you are only interested in VISA.
The best way is just go to Mission house and ask for list of Mirza Kazibs
books. And abdulaziz qadiani you go to some library and ask for books on
history of British India. Your history is very poor. One good character
I have oserved in Mirzais that they can change any time. They can change
their sex. They can change their Race. They can change their names. They
can change their fathers. They can change their religion. They are very
flexible. I appreciate them in this sense.Now a days one Mirzai has changed
his father including race and writing with English name. Its easy way to
become GORA. Actually many Mirzai thinks that Canadian permanent residence
VISA means One becomes Canadian. And as canadians are white therefore these
people should be counted Whitemen. Therefore one Mirzai even has changed
every thing. He works on common proverb Do in Roam as Roamans do. Laanat
of Allah be upon Mirza Ghulam and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 09:01:18 (EST)
TC SPECIALIST MIRZA KAZIB GHULAM A QADIANI. Mirza Kazib
was a TC specialist. He had some debates with Christian Missionaries in
his life. And he used somewhere some harsh words for those missionaries
too. When his master governor general inquired on this then how he licked
his balls. Here is one piece of his writing from TIRYAQ al QULUB page 130.
He wrote " I also confess that when some of the writings of priests and
Christian missionaries became extremely severe and exceeded moderation
and especially when very filthy writings began to appear in NUR AFSHAN
a Christian paper from Ludhiana and when these writers used God forbid
such words with regard to our prophet PBUH. Then by reading such books
and papers I fearedthat in the hearts of Muslims who are sentimental people.
These words might create a highly provocative effect. Then in order to
calm down this enthusiasm. I considered it expendient that the proper policy
would be to reply to these writings somewhat harshly so that the enthusiasm
of easily inflammable people is suppressed and no breach of peace in country
takes place." Dear readers have you seen how was he specialist in TC. Next
time inshallah I will tell you more about this Laanati Mirza Kazib Ghulam
A Qadiani. Bye.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 08:41:03 (EST)
SPECIMENS OF MIRZA KAZIB GHULAM A QADIANIS JEHAD. Mirza
Kazib ghulam a qadiani on one hand he was busy in fawning of his anti Islamic
British masters on the other hand he was using abusive language for Muslims.
The best specimens of his abuses are found in his Arabic writings. Prose
as well as poetry. Here are a few of them. In his book ANJAM E ATHAM at
page 158 he wrote about muslims " Now if these people abuse me then I have
already taken off all their clothes and have rendered them into Irrecognizable
carcasses" In the same book at page 21 He said "O debased class of Moulvis
how long will you conceal the truth. When will the time come for you to
give up Jewish habits. O tyrant Maulvis pity on you that you made the cattle
like common folk drink from the same cup of falsehood you had drunk." In
another MIRZAI JEHAD with Pir Meher Ali Shah sahib of Golra he wrote "
So I said O land of Golra upon thee be curse. Thou hast been accursed because
of the accursed ones" IJAZ E AHMADI p 75 & 76. In another Qadiani type
Jehad NAJAM al HUDA page 15 he wrote " These enemies have become the swines
of our forest. And their women are even worse than bitches." This subject
is neither pleasant for me nor palatable for readers. These specimens were
just to guess the spirit of Mirza Kazibs Jehad E Akbar.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 08:39:33 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani and Qadiani ? in disguise of Robert
- First Abdul-Aziz Qadiani I asked you why don't you follow the law of
a country and why you hide your Qadiani identity while applying for Ummarah/Hajj.
You said who gave us the right to say you non-muslims. Have you ever raised
that question to Pandat Tahir that who give right to Kazib Mirza Ghulam
and Pervert Mirza Mehmood to declare the entire muslim Ummah Kafir ? You
are simply a hypocrite nothing more nothing less. Even if you manage to
sneak into Saudia your heart trembles due to the fear of Saudi 'Shurtas'
(fearing they might caught you) so you don't get ant peace of mind even
in those places. Better go for Qadian Yatira Or cult-house yatira in London.
These are the places for cultists not the holly cities of Muslims. Cultist
XYZ who is pretending to be from amnesty international. Amnesty should
better watchout in their own backyard in Europe and North America where
so many people are suffering because of racism and ruthless capitalism
(26 million alone are living in very poor conditions in USA lot of them
are homeless). Now back to Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You said britishers became
very pious and humane from 1870-1908. Masha-Allah it shows how much knowledge
you have of history. They were capturing colonies and plundering poor nations
of Africa Middle-East Asia South-East Asia and were busy looting and exploiting
poor people of many countries but Mr wise you are saying that they were
providing heavenly shelter for their subjects. You qadianis have no shame
when you praise britishers Even many fairminded British elites of today
are writing and discussing the miseries which British raj brought on the
people of sub-continent during their stay in India but what you know of
reality Mirza and his father were providing them men against freedom fighters
of India in 1857 along with punjabi fuedals. They were worst traitors.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 05:25:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd 10 Million Rupees, Your mama can
make it very easily for you. Just Take her to "HEERA MANDI" and see how
fast you get the 10 million rupees. You will even forget about Brother
Rashid. Just dont forget 10% for Mirza Tahir Kazib.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 19:08:02 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Some time you are Hamjeed Qadiani
And SOME TIMES "ROBERT HOPKINS". I wonder When was the last time YOUR MOTHER
SLEPT with Christian or SHE MIGHT HAVE FOOLED AROUND with the "BHANGI"
the one who removed your "MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S" Stinking body. Thats why
she probably gave you the name ROBERT HOPKINS. Any how Enjoy both names
just like your Mama enjoyed Different MENs. She Was great lady (No Discrimination
against any body, Make every body Happy). You are following her footsteps.
Keep on working with amnesty international, because there is not gona be
any AMNESTY for you (MURTADD) in the next life (Insha ALLAH). Ok HAMJEED
MURTADD.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 18:56:41 (EST)
LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR QADIANI MURTADDS
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 18:50:44 (EST)
I work for Amnesty International.I was asked to visit
this site by one of my coligues. I have to day that I am surprised at what
I read. Racism and political discrimination now, in 1998. This is like
NAZI Germany.That was in 1938. It shows how backward you people are.I have
many Ahmady and non-ahmady friends who get along very well.Why is it that
you have to discriminate. Is it that you are jelous that the number of
ahmadies has risen from a mere 40 to a massive 13 million in less than
a year. There are now more ahmadies then there are Jews.I myself am working
for amnesty International and am going to make sure someone of a high rank
hears about this.AND Mr.Ali, I would watch out.You are lucky you are hiding
in the gulf.Had you been in Britain or America or any place in Europe for
that matter you would have been locked up by now. I as a Christian am warning
you. You don't find anti- protestant or Catholic sites like this. I am
also very interested in the ahmady faith and do not recall hearing of those
books which rumy has mentioned or what Rashid Ali has mentioned for that
matter.I have a list of all the books written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad with
me now.None of them except Jesus in India I'm afraid.STOP THE LIES.STOP
THE DISCRIMINATION.I am saying this one more time, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO
SAY THAT NAZI GERMANY WAS BAD.BECAUSE PAKISTAN AND YOU ARE DOING THE SAME
NOW.WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NAZI,S WILL HAPPEN TO YOU .
Robert Hopkins <Should not have
to >
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 14:16:11 (EST)
RASHID ALI I want the 10 million ruppes now. The only
book you mentioned over there that exists is Jesus in India which means
nothing to you.All it says is Jesus died at the age of 120 in India. The
other books you mentioned do not exist.ANYWAY, I AM BEGINNING TO FEEL SORRY
FOR YOU PEOPLE.You always seem to be caught out.Rashid you have some explaning
to do. LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:58:15 (EST)
RUMY You would be a good actor.The way you can make up
the names of books on the spot.I am sure you got some help from Rashid
Ali MURTAD who too makes the names of books up on the spot in his so called
10 million ruppee reward rubish.The names of those books are made up and
they DO NOT exist Victory for the Ahmadies again
Rahid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:52:47 (EST)
LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOE NONE You so called QADIANI BUSTER
I asked for some other explanaition other than that odf my ahmady brother.Not
abuse You obviously do not have any other explanation. We obviously have
won We obviously will win when each and every one of you MULLAH MURTADS
will burn in hell
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:49:25 (EST)
QADIANI MASTER TARA SINGH "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURDAH-BAD.
Dear Readers Just look at the face of MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB, Does'nt he look
like "MASTER TARA SINGH"? Of Course HE Does. Because HE (MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB)
is carrying the same genes. Muslims Brothers, Your Vote on this Matter
is Highly appreciated. From No On you can refer Mirza Tahir as Qadiani
Tara Singh Mirza Tahir Kazib.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 06:06:12 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD QADIANI Brother FATYEH SHER do not
have to give you any certificate about KALIMA. As long nas you are following
MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB, as long as you are singing for MIRZA KAZIB, you are
a MURTADD, OUT OF THE FOLD OF ISLAM, YOU are LAANATI just Like Mirza Tahir
Kazib, YOU KNOW TAHT, MIRZA KNOW TAHT and the WHOLE MUSLIM UMMAH KNOWS
THAT. You are born from the dirty SPURMS injected by the BRITTS into "MIRZAS"
ass, You "QADIANIS" are DIRTY as "PIGS". Just BRING the Picture of your
"MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB" dying with S.H.I.T. in his mouth, and think what kind
of person was HE (MIRZA LAANATI) and why ALLAH (SWT) gave him such a Miserable,
Shameful, and Disgusting DEATH? Was'nt that a lesson for LAANATIS like
you to learn. Or YOU have "S.H.I.T" in your brains that nothing reasonable
and Logical can go in. You are blaming "BROTHER RASHID" to be writing under
the name of "QB" . As i have told you that "THIS QADIANI BUSTER" is more
real than your FATHER. YOU may not know Who the Hell your FATHER was, BUT
THIS "QADIANI BUSTER" is REAL as much as the MISERABLE and Shameful Death
of Your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. If you still dont believe, ask your MAMA, She
knows me VERY WELL.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:58:39 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani says that this site is becoming pornographic.
Is this reason why Mirzai girls like to visit this site regularly. for
example Maryiam Qadiani is very active. I know Mirza was using the words
like "son of prostitutes" etc for Muslims and Now their own generation
is offsprings of bitches who are the results of meetings or matings of
Mirza Tahir. Love for all hatered for none.
Question <q@shitymirza.com>
Pk - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:38:07 (EST)
Dear readers. Here on this page an ignorant illiterate
person Abdulaziz Mirzai says " Mirza Kazib fought JEHAD E AKBAR The grand
Jehad against enemies of Islam with pen" here is an example of his Jehad.
TIRYAQ al QULUB page 130. He wrote " I also confess that when some of the
writings of priests and Christian missionaries became extremely severe
and exceeded moderation and especially when very filthy writings began
to appear in NUR AFSHAN a Christian paper from Ludhiana and when these
writers used God forbid such words with regard to our prophet PBUH. Then
by reading such books and papers I feared that in the hearts of Muslims
who are sentimental people. These words might create a highly provocative
effect. Then in order to calm down this enthusiasm. I considered it expedient
that the proper policy would be to reply to these writings somewhat harshly
so that the enthusiasm of easily inflammable people is suppressed and no
breach of peace in country takes place." Then this illiterate abdulaziz
mirzai said . Britishers were not depriving Islam. Perhaps this man is
so ignorant that he had neither read the history of India nor Mirza Kazibs
books where Mirza Kazib had confessed proudly to support Britishers against
Muslim freedom fighters of India in 1857. When near about 0.1 Million muslims
were slaughtered by his master Britishers.His excuse is Because Mirza Laanati
was born in Punjab and before Britishers there was the rule of Sikhs who
were cruel with Muslims Therefore Mirza supported the Britishers. My question
to this hypocrite Mirzai cult is " Was this reason he never wrote against
Sikhs" and As in Punjab Sikhs were ruling before the arrival of Mirzas
Master Britishers due to that he forbade Jehad all over the world. And
now he is giving the date 1870 to 1908. Perhaps he does not know the names
of founders of Muslim league. But my question is. Is it way of prophets
what that Laanati Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani has adopted. Did prophets
supported enemies of Islam. For Muslims Mirza Kazib was using the abusive
words and for enemies of Islam Her majesty and His majesty. Shame for followers
of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani. Do not worry I will provide more writings
of Mirza Kazib INSHALLAH where he has licked the ass of his british masters.
Actually mission of Mirzait is to ruin the Islam but they do not know they
will be ruined as Mirza Kazib was died in toilet with in his mouth.
Rumy <na>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:26:50 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani and Hamjeed Mirzai. Very good my ignorant
Mirzais. Now you are denying Mirza Kazibs writings. What a obedient disciples
are you. Shame. If these books are not in your easy access ask your murabees
or laanati Pundat Mirza Tahir to provide you. I appreciate your knowledge.
I think even you have not read complete set of Roohani Khazain. Shame you
Mirzais. And Mirza for your kind information Mirza Kazib was born in 1839
or 1840. Therefore in 1857 he was quite young. According to Mirza Kazib
himself he started BAK BAK in early his age.Lanat of Allah be upon Mirza
Ghulam A qadiani and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:07:22 (EST)
Dear readers Again my comment was only partially posted
I had asked Mr. Fateh Sher to produce a certificate issued to him bt Allah
or His Prophet authorizing him to declare a kalima sayer a Muslim or non-Muslim.
Thank you. To Dr. Rashid I assume (and I may be wrong. Allah knows better)
that you are writing under the name 'Qadiani Buster'. I request you not
to defame Islam by making this useful page a pornographic and adult site.
Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <m>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 21:35:37 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher A part of my previous comments could not
be posted for some technical reasons. I was giving the similarities and
differences in Ahmadis and non-Ahmadis. I had given the similarities in
the previous comments. Now the differences. (1) Non-Ahmadis do not believe
that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is 'khatamannabiyyeen'. For them it is Hazrat
Issa (AS). I say so because to my previous comments where I proved from
Quran that if the non-Ahmadis believe as they do then for them Issa(AS)
and not Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is Khatamannabiyyeen. None of you contested
my comment. (2) Non-Ahmadis do not believe in the Quranic version of Jehad.
(Again none of you were able to refute my argument on this subject). (3).
Non- Ahmadis are hypocrites. They do not do what they say. Example They
believe in waging Jehad with sword but are doing nothing for the liberation
of Palestine and Kashmir. They are not doing any thing like Jehad with
sword against the Bosnian Serbs, or against the Americans, British and
the French who killed a million Iraqis (children included). (4). They kill
innocent Muslims (Pakistan and Algeria are examples). (5). Most of them
are illiterate (Pakista, India, Bangla Desh are examples). They do nothing
to preach Islam to the rest of the world (only Ahmadis are doing this duty).
Mr. Fateh Sher, given the corrupt practices of non-Ahmadis what justice
are you using to call Ahmadis non-Muslims. If any thing they are as much
Muslims as you are if not better. If you can't produce this certificate
then please fear God whose Hand is so swift and strong that nothing of
you will be left in an instant. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 21:24:42 (EST)
Rashid Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Can you explain the event
of MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S MISERABLE, SHAMEFUL and DISGUSTING DEATH (WITH
S.H.I.T. in His Mouth). Just picture the death of your MIRZA , With S.H.I.T.
in his mouth, and then the dead body being removed by "BHANGIS" by covering
their faces and noses. You call QADIANIS victorious? Go ahead do it. When
you gona die this way, it will be another victory for QADIANIS (MURTADDS).
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.COn>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:52:30 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI MURTADD What kind of B.U.L.L. S.H.I.T
are you talking about? What Do YOU have in your brains? The QADIANIS are
"MURTADDS" You know that very well, we know that very well and the whole
Muslim UMMAH knows that veryt well. QADIANIS "MURTADDS" do not have any
ULEMASD, they have "PUNDATS" and MANHOOS FACED MURABBIS like YOU. Do not
confuse your JuNK with ULEMAS. You dont even know the meaning of the word
"Ulema", and naming your MANHOOS faced Murabbis as ULEMAS, LAANAT of ALLAH
(SWT) be upon you and upon your MIRZA KAZIB, OH AZIZ MURTADD.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:47:19 (EST)
Rashid Hamjeed Qadiani MURTADD You just start with the
LOVE of Mirza Tahir Kazib, Because HE Like "LONDAS" like You. HE (MIRZA
TAHIR KAZIB) like to Use "LONDAS" both ways. You know what I mean. Because
You are in this business. If you dont, Go and ask MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. He
will make you understand "PRACTICALLY".
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:38:46 (EST)
BAAP KAA JOOTA BAITAY KAY SAR Harshest criticism of Pakistan
HR, political situation By Shaheen Sehbai WASHINGTON, Feb 1 The US State
Department has issued the harshest criticism yet of Pakistan's general
political and human rights situation, saying the government infringed on
citizens' privacy rights, extrajudicial killings in Karachi were still
common, the judiciary was under political influence and journalists were
on payrolls of agencies. "The government's human rights record remained
poor in 1997, with serious problems regarding police abuse, religious discrimination,
and child labour." These, and other sweeping observations have been made
in the Annual 1997 Human Rights Report of the State Department, released
here on Jan 30, in which Pakistan has received twice as much space and
attention as India. The report said" The government imposes limits on the
freedom of assembly, movement, and-for the Ahmadis in particular-religion.
The extrajudicial killing of criminal suspects, often in the form of deaths
in police custody or staged encounters in which the police shoot and kill
the suspects, is common." It, however, noted that although Karachi remained
a hotbed of politically-motivated violence, extrajudicial killings by security
forces there had diminished (as compared to the previous government) The
overall failure of successive governments to prosecute and punish abusers
was the single greatest obstacle to ending or even reducing the incidence
of abuse by the police, it said. The authorities sometimes transferred,
suspended, or arrested offending officers, but seldom prosecuted or punished
them. Investigating officers generally shielded their colleagues. The report
said Amnesty International estimateed that up to 100 people died from police
torture each year. It said the Accountability Commission, established by
the caretaker government and headed by a retired judge, had been overshadowed
by an "accountability cell," headed by a close associate of the prime minister.
This cell had been accused of conducting politically-motivated investigations
of politicians, senior civil servants, and business figures, designed to
extract evidence and, in some cases, televised confessions of alleged wrongdoers.
The report gave the examples of televised confessions extracted from Salman
Farooqi, secretary of commerce under Benazir Bhutto; Ahmed Sadiq, Benazir
Bhutto's principal secretary; and Zafar Iqbal, chairman of the Capital
Development Authority. It said most politicians and bureaucrats, who had
been charged with corruption or other crimes, were out on bail (in addition
to murder, Benazir Bhutto's husband, Asif Zardari, had also been charged
with corruption). The report said" The MQM contends that several thousand
of its members are still in jail on politically-motivated charges which
date from the 1992-96 period. The government is supposed to be reviewing
the cases of these imprisoned individuals (most of whom are awaiting trial)
to see if they can be released. To date, few of them have been released."
It said that although Pakistan's constitution provided for an independent
judiciary; in practice, the judiciary was subject to political influence.
" Journalists, routinely underpaid, are on the unofficial payrolls of many
competing interests, and the military (or elements within it) is presumed
to be no exception."
Dawn Karachi <bb.bb@com>
? - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 17:42:52 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher Thank you for telling me that you don't
come from Akora Khattak. Bt Attock is pretty close to Akhora. Well may
be people differ. Any way if you were from Akora you would not be debasing
your words like you are doing now. However, this is not a big point. What
is strange in writing is that you want Messrs Ali and Waraich to go to
Saudi Consulate and in the box 'religion' write it Ahmadiyyat and not Islam.
It is a travesty Mr Fateh Sher. Ahmadis believe in Islam as their religion.
They believe in Prphet Muhammad (SAS) as their master and Allah's messenger.
They perform all the duties required of them by Allah and his prophet Muhammad
(SAS). They believe in him as 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. Now let us get to your
position. You say the same Kalima. You believe in five pillars of Islam
as they do. The differences are (1) You don't believe in {rophet Muhammad
(SAS) as 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. (2). You don't believe in Quranic teachings
regarding Jehad
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 13:12:21 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Thy name is lies and ignorance. After your last
posting referring to non-existing writings of the Promised Messiah (AS)
I want to change your title. (RUMY THY NAME IS LIES, IGNORANCE AND FABRICATIONS).
Mr. Rumy you are not answering my question. Tell me the names of non-Ahmadi
ulema who were alive in the period 1880-1910 (Period of Mirza Sahib's preaching
as Imam Mahdi) who preached Jehad with sword against the British. If you
can't give me the names please call those Ahmadi ulema cowards, British
boot lickers and/or non-Muslims. Also if you think those non-Ahmadi ulema
erred in their decision not to wage Jehad against the British then please
tell me what additional research or revelation from Allah (SWA) has made
you declare those ulema in error.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 12:39:55 (EST)
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RYR - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:39:20 (EST)
I HAVE TO START WITH LOVE FOR ALL AND HATRED FOR NONE.
SECONDLY, MY AHMADY BROTHER MADE A FEW VERY GOOD POINTS AND IS ASKING FOR
EXPLANAITIONS PTHER THAN HIS. THERE ARE NONE . YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY. AHMADIYAT
IS VICTORIOUS ONCE MORE. AND ONCE RASHID ALI IS RUINED, WE WILL BE EVEN
MORE VICTORIOUS.IT WILL HAPPEN SOON , BELEIVE ME.
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:36:55 (EST)
I AM STILL WAITING FOR EXPLANAITIONS OTHER THAN MINE.IT
SEEMS AS THOUGH THE AHMADIES HAVE WON AGAIN. OH AND RUMY, THOSE TWO BOOKS
YOU MENTIONED DON'T EXIST
An Ahmady <no junk mail>
- Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:32:00 (EST)
Dear readers. Here is another piece of Mirzas writing
from his book SHAHADAT al QURAN. " My religion which I have been explaining
again and again us that there are two parts of Islam. One to obey the exalted
Allah and second to obey the government which has established peace and
has provided its shadow of protection as against opression. Such a government
is the British Government." And in another book TABLIGH E RISALAT page
17 he wrote " I believe that as my followers increase the believers in
the doctrine of JEHAD will decrease. For accepting me to be the Messiah
and Mehdi itself means the rejection of the doctrine of JEHAD" The Mirza
Kazibs main concern was JEHAD which indeed had caused the greatest worry
to the British not only in India but in all Muslim countries.Quite a number
of which had already been occupied by British. The Mirza Kazib proclaimed
JEHAD to have been abrogated for ever and put forward this as the sign
of his being the Promised Messiah. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Ghulam A
Qadiani and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 08:40:02 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. Here is a piece of writing of Mirza
Kazib Ghulam A qadiani from his book TIRYAQ al QULUB page 15. He wrote
" The greater part of my life has been spent supporting and defending the
British Government. And I have written so many books regarding the prohibition
of JIHAD and obedience to the British that were they to be gathered together.
They would fill fifty almirahs. Such books have disseminated over all the
countries. viz Arabia. Egypt Syria Kabul and Room. I have always endeavoured
that Muslims became true well wisher of this Government and their hearts
were purged of baseless traditions about the Mehdi and Messiah and those
fanatical teachings which corrupt the hearts of the stupid" This is the
view of Mirza Kazib Ghulam a Qadiani. Laanat of Allah upon him and his
disciples. Abdulaziz Mirzai look at your laanati Mirzas face. How is he
licking the British ass.
Rumy <na>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 08:17:14 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Are you afraid to go in front
of Saudi Consulate in Canada and declare that You are QADIANI (MURTADD)?
What a Hypocracy you are living in. AZIZ Murtadd, If you really have Balls
(That Mostly Qadiani "Murtadds") dont have like Mirza Ghulam Kazib, Go
with Brother Fateh Sher, say openly that You are a QADIANI (Declared Murtadd
by Muslim Ummah) and wana apply for Hajj, Umrah Visa. See what happens.
Make sure you carry your Green card (That Mirzai Pandat Tahir Murtadd Got
for you) with you. Or Tkae a QADIANI "HOOR" with you that might help.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:51:08 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI (MURTADD) Good work, at least you admitted
in some way that Your Laanati MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB was a British agent, was
on the Payroll of Britts and was working against the Muslims and above
alkl was preaching against "JIHAD". LAKH LAKH LAANAT UPON YOUR MIRZA GHULAM
KAZIB and on his Ummatis LIKE YOU, WARAICH, ALI QADIANI and other MURTADDS.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:43:46 (EST)
Brother Fateh Sher You are absolutly right. All these
QADIANIS (MUNAFIQS & MURTADDS)do lie on the Saudi Umrah?Hajj Applications
declaring themself a Muslims. Why ? Because "LYING" and Hypocracy is the
Main Menifest amnd MOTTO of "QADIANISM" and also because "IBLEES" ask them
to do that. Thats the way these QADIANIs "MURTADDS" take their dirty and
Manhoos bodies into those Holy City. That is also a conspiracy of the QADIANI
Cult to do that. Believe ot If these QADIANI "MURTADDS" declare themself
as "QADIANIS" in from of the Saudi consulates, The Saudis will kick their
asses out of the Consulates and embassies too. Because just stepping of
these MURTADDS (Qadianis) make that place "TO BE CLEANED and WASHED" again.
The existance of these QADIANIS (MURTADDS) is worst than PIGS, that if
we touch them by mistake we have to wash ourselves FORTY (40) times.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:39:28 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani Sahib - You guys too quickly jump on
conclusions. I said I am from Attock (formerly known as Cambell-Pure) which
is small city north west of Islamabad. Go and read my previous post. What
I said was you guys always boast all over the net. That you are Qadiani/Ahmadi
and challenge everybody that Ahmadiyyat is true Islam And now when you
clearly know that Saudi govt don't allow Qadianes into holly cities. Why
you do hypocricy to declare yourself from mainstream Isalm to get into
the holly cities. If you are honest and truthfull you should never ever
had dodged and broke the law of a country and should always not tried to
enter into this country. But you all follow the munafaqat of Mirza that's
why lying in your cult is not a big deal. I should have posted you a form
but at the moment they are not entertaining applications for Visa till
july so could not provide me the form thats why I am asking lets go to
Saudi Consolate and ask them either they allow Qadiani for Hajj or Ummarah.
Is this a to big ask for you. You don't have to do anything I will enquire
from them and you simply listen.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 03:35:50 (EST)
Mr. Aziz, ha ha ha test
ali <ali@canada.com>
can - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 23:07:10 (EST)