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Dear Brothers in Islam
This is to announce that January 1998 marks the end of ONE YEAR since Mirza Tahir Ahmad renewed his challenge of Mubahila in January 1997. This challenge was addressed to all 'ENEMIES of AHMADIYYAT'. Since I consider myself to be the biggest enemy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, on behalf of the entire Muslim Ummah and from the platform of ANTI-AHMADIYYA MOVEMENT, I ACCEPTED THIS CHALLENGE. I requested an audience with Mirza Tahir Ahmad, at his Headquarter and on his convenient time to have a face to face Mubahila as well.
However initial response of Qadianis was to label me a coward who is trying to run away from this challenge by asking to meet Mirza Tahir! When I categorically stated my acceptance of this challenge, then they attempted to disqualify me. Finally when they realised that they can't dissuade me, i started recieving intimidating posts, informing me of impending doom. If I am away on vacation, they would frantically write to me hoping that I have met my fate. But it was not their fault. I feel pity for them, for they blindly trust the man, Mirza.
What Qadianis/Ahmadis never realise that this repeated Mubahila challenge is being given to boost the falling morale of the Qadiani creed. Of course there were some covert planning as well to destabilise Pakistan and 'create' Sectarian clashes, so that Mirza Tahir can attribute it to the success of Mubahila. Which I am sure he is doing in his Friday Sermons. AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SO STUPID THAT THEY EVEN BELIEVE HIM. Question is: Did any of those who died in pakistan accept the challenge.
AMAZINGLY, one person who openly and repeatedly accepted the challenge, i.e. MYSELF, by the Grace of Allah, is alive and well. This proves that Mirza Tahir has been defeated in this challenge of Mubahila. Let his followers now believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was a LIAR. May Allah open their eyes and bring them back to the fold of Islam. Ameen.
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah.
Rashid
None of the true Muslims who ever lived maintained that force should be employed in the spread of Islam. On the other hand, Islam has always flourished on the strength of its inherent qualities of excellence. Those who having the distinctions of being called Mulsims, yet believe that Islam should be spread with force, do not seem to have any awareness of the inherent beauties of Islam and end up roating thier tale around those whom they considered their greastest Islam enemy, What a spirit O. people this is a time to do Jehad with pen rather than sword. -----Maryam
Maryam <n.a>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 14:29:28 (EST)
so, he meant Iqbal died in toilet
ALi <n.o>
Can - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 14:09:17 (EST)
Response of Rashid (nickname Doctor) over the death of Iqbal Dear Mr Shamvil and other Qadianis Do not worry i am not hiding anywhere. I am still around. I had accepted the challenge of Mubahila and alHamdolillah as a freshest sign of Mubahila, I had spent the last days of this Mubahila in al-Madina al-Munawwarah. Just returned from there, that is the reason you did not see me on the Newsgroups. As far as Dr. Iqbal Khan is concerned, yes he did translate the 'infamous book 2 in 1' into Arabic 5 years ago and he died of suffocation while trying to repair a septic tank in his house. So what is the big thing
Ahmadi Muslim <n.a>
abc - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 13:40:18 (EST)
Messrs Rumy and Fateh Sher I have answers to all your allegations, but as I said I don't want to muddy the water by raising new issues. Please tell me the names of non-Ahmadi ulema who lived in India during the same period as Mirza Sahib (AS) and preached Jehad against the British. I am sure you will not be able to do so. This is the fullfilment of Promised Mesiah's saying," God will give to my Jamaat such ulema whose arguments will shut the mouth of my opponents. Gentlemen, if you say that a true Muslim should have waged Jehad during Mirza Sahib's time then please state their names and source of your quotation. If there were none then please call those non-Ahmadi Muslims also Kafirs and Kazibs. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.0>
USA - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 13:37:55 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. You have quoted the name of ZaffarUllah Khan who was Mirzai and Foreign Minister of Pakistan. And was either included or leading many delegation. Has represented Pakistan in many Meetings . Here you are right. But it does not prove the Qadianis role in Pakistan Movement or It does not show the loyalty of Qadianis with Pakistan or Islam. As you should know Mr. Tariq Aziz is Christian and was also Foreign minister of Iraq and right hand of Suddam Hussain. And now a time he is some Deputy primeminister type position in Iraq. Then Indias present Foregn secretary is Muslim. Indias President Zakir Hussain was also Muslim. And there were Some Muslim politician in Congress at the time of Partition. For example Indias first education Minister Abualkalam Azad was Muslim. Eventhen It does not prove Muslims loyalty with Hinduism or Christians loyalty with Muslims. Another example of Pakistan is Raja TriDev Rai was Hindu and was also Pakistani Minister who was included in that delegation who made Simpla pact with India. Muammad Ali Jinah himself did work with Dada Bhai Noor Jee who was a Hindu activist. But no one can say that Quaid A Azam was loyal with Hindus. So many American loyal Christian are workin in Saudi Arabia. It means it is no proof of Mirzais loyalty with Pakistan or With Muslims if Zaffar was Pakistans FM. Point is in 1906 when Muslimleague was founded to protect the rights of Muslims in India and Muslims were working on right path. At that time false clamant of Prophethood Mirza Kazib ghulam A qadiani was alive and active in useless debates. What was his role in that event. And how much he contributed spiritually and finnancialy in that movement.Sirsyed Ahmed Khan established Muslim University in India for the prosperity of Muslims but What Mirza Kazib did.He collected the fund from his followers and Brits government but where he had spent that.Dont cry on Other Maulanas. Just watch Mirza Kazibs role. Abduaziz Mirzai for last two years I am watching that you are crying on other ULEMAS and giving the example of Zaffar Ullah khan. You should know it In USA Army there are somany Muslims are working. And USA policies are not in favour of Muslims. Therefore we cant say that being the government employee means all ummah is loyal to that government. Mirza Kazib had his own vested interest in this false claim. He was Brits agent and was working for them. And This is the reason every Muslim is against the Mirzai. Otherwise even today there are thousands of Mirzai are in Pakistan defence department and Management key posts. This their job. As Hindus, christians and other nonMuslims are serving in Pakistan even in Pakistans Army. So please bring some reasonable proofs of Mirzai loyalty with Islam or With Muslim Countries. I think it is enough for today. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani and his followers.
Rumy <na>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 08:15:53 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. Question is not this what you are raising. Question is role of a prophet. And did Mirza Kazib said that for this period only Jehad is not allowed. Look it does not matter what were other Muslim and non Muslim scholars or forces were doing. Question is that does Prophet come to spread Message of Allah or to help the enemy of Islam. Mirza Kazib was supporting Brits. While a true prophet always supports the Islam. A true always fought against all those forces who were active against Islam. See the history of all known prophets from Hazarat Ibrahim AS to Holy prophet Hazarat Muhammad PBUH. But Mirza Kazib who is false clamant of Prophethood and Immamat of Muslims had helped the antiIslamic forces to make them strong. There are Many Muslim Scholars Who were fighting Jehad against Brits. Question is not this that what they were doing. Question is What a prophet should do. It is of little concern whether other Muslim ULEMA were doing Jehad or not. If there is no difference between an ordinary scholar and a prophet then what was need of prophet. If Mirza Kazib come to give strenth to enemies of Islam then what kind of prophet was he. Do you think that afew meaningless debates were enough to make him prophet or some abusive language was necessary what he had used. This is no excuse what you people had put on yourweb page that other Muslim Scholars were not preaching Jehad in India. Try to understand my point That a true prophet always took stand against all those who were not on right path and were enemy of Allah Message. Whether those forces were of NAMROOD or PHAROAH or Abu Jahal. How strong was Pharoah is not question how poor were Bani Israel is not question. Prophet did what was the message of ALLAH. What a nonsense question you have raised. Who cares about Zaffar. He didnt claim prophethood. Whole of life Mirza did not wage Jehad against any non Muslim force. He kept Muslims busy in fruitless debates with him. Only to divert their attention from real problems. He had claimed a false prophethood and made them busy to debate with him as it was more delicate problem for Muslims. Mr abdulaziz Mirzai our view is that A prophet should not support enemy of Islam. A prophet should not use filthy language. A prophet should not tell a lie. A prophet should not start any meaningless debate or discussion. As Mirza Kazib Ghulam a Qadiani supported Brits against Muslims. Mirza Kazib used filthy language for his opponents. Mirza did lie to prove his false prophecies. And Mirza was indulged in meaningless and useless discussions with nonMuslims and Muslim scholars Therefore Mirza Kazib was not a prophet. He was a Munafiq and Traitor of Islam. And does not prove Mirza Kazibs truthfullness if some other people were using the same language or they were supporting Brits or not. If some people use the unwanted language against Qadianis or any other their opponent it does not allow a prophet to use filthy language. In same way if Some SUNNI or SHIA or WAHABI or from any Muslim sect Ulema did not preached the Jehad from 1870 to 1910 it does not prove that Mirza was right to preach against Jehad. Jehad is a pillar of Islam. No one has right to demolish it. Try to understand truth. Inshallah very soon I will try to tell you more on this topic. Bye.
RUMY <na>
PK - Saturday, February 07, 1998 at 07:23:30 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You guys are befooling not anyone else but yourself. Tell me Mirza Kazib had appointed by devil as pretender Mehdi-cum-prophet for Gurdaspur Qadian and Sailkot only . That he had asked muslims not to struggle against Brits when they were capturing all north Africa Middle-East and also imposing the worst oppression on Muslims of sub-continent. For the refresher of your poor history knowledge Muslims were fighting against Brits in all those areas in the shape of small and large Guerrilla warfare. In sub-continent it was happening in NWFP, Sind and Baluchistan including period of 1870-1910. Jihad of every kind is a collective duty of Muslims. Jihad of every kind Muslim do because its Allah's decree not any Pontiffs order. But your is a cult you always follow a cult Guru not Allah. You tuned in to MTA (Munafaqat Televisid Allover) and listen to Pandit Tahir. What a lanat Allah has put on his face. Yes you penetrated in League when you saw Pakistan is inevitable but what a mess Zafar-Ullah Qadiani made in boundary commission. The outcome of boundary commission was a total disaster for Muslims thanks to Zafarullah Qadiani. Then in Kashmir you tried to create your cult state thanks God that Muslims got awareness and they distanced themselves from so-called Kashmir Committee. Hakim Noora spend many years as a righthand man of Maharaja of Kashmir and was part of all conspiracies against Muslims from Hindus. Mirza many time went there to visit collaborator Hakim Noora. Since that time they were planning to convert very simple Kashmiri Muslims into their cult and create a cult state which later they tried in 20's and 30's but their plans were foiled and all prominent Muslims exposed qadiani covert plans and distanced themselves from this it.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 21:06:26 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Please spit your anger. Let us discuss things at a civilized manner. (1). You said that I am trying to squeeze time frame for you to come up with examples of non-Ahmadi ulema, in India, who had preached Jehad with sword against the British. It was my typo and I apologize for it. Take the period as 1870-1910. I have taken this period because the Promised Messiah advised against Jehad with sword in this period. Now would you please give me the names of non-Ahmadi ulema who did preach Jehad with sword against the British. (2). When Muslims of India were fighting for Pakistan, Ahmadis were in the fore-front. Quadi-Azam who had left India and settled in London, after having been disappointed by the Muslim leaders politics, was convinced to come back to India by Maulana Dard a missionary of the Jamaat Ahmadiyya. For a proof please see the biography of Quadi Azam by Mr Jaffery (a non-Ahmadi himself). When Quadi Azam decided to come back to India in a farewel dinner he specifically mentioned that he decided to return to India because of Maulana Dard. Quadi Azim appointed Choudhay Zafarullah Khan as advocate of the Indian Muslims in boundary commission's hearing. Ch. Zafarullah Khan not only advocated the case of Indian Muslims but he did a great service to the cause of the Arab world. If you look at the messages the Arab (Saudis, Egyptians. Palestinians, etc) leaders sent to Ch. Zafarullah thanking him for the help, you will find out how Ahmadis have been serving the Muslim world. Now please tell me , Was Quadi Azam more informed of the services rendered by Ahmadis in the creation of Pakistan or you? I agree with you that in earlier period, like many other Muslim leaders, the second Ahmadi Khalifa Hazrat Mirza BashirudDin Mahmood Ahmad (RA) advised Muslims to remain a part of India. He said that we shall be able to convert Hindus to Islam if India remained united. (2). In Kashmir when Indian forces were slaughtering the Muslims, only Jamaat Ahmadiyya created a fighting force to help the Kashmiris. The name of the force was Furqan force. Ahmadis paid for this force. No other religious party came up with any such force to help Kashmiri Muslims. (3). Now could you please give me some names of Muslim ulema, contemporaries of Mirza Sahi (AS) in India living under the British rule who preached Jehad against the British. I repeat my previous comment that Maulana Muhammad Hussain Batalvi, Sye Ai-Hairi, Syed Ahmad Sahib Brelvi and Maulana Maudoodi advised Muslims not to wage Jehad with sword against the British. I expect that, being a scientist you will answer my question in a straight forward manner and not muddy it by bringing in new issues. Thank you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 12:39:55 (EST)
Messrs Abdulaziz Mirzai and Hamjeed Qadiani. Mr.Robert is friend of your uncle tom. Is it.And I think Queen Elizebith was aunt of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani. Very nice I appreciate your PR. And now to Abdulaziz Mirzai. What a nonsense reasoning he has. And he is shrinking every day. Very first you abdulaziz Mirzai given the period of 1870 to 1908 then started shrinking and now 1890 to 1910. I always appreciate your way. What a funny man you are. You know we had started this discussion when I told you about MUHAMMAD AHMED MAHDI OF SUDAN who had fought many Jehad battles with Your uncles friend Brits and defeated them in all. Founded a rein of Justice on earth. Killed the General Gordon " Might be uncle of Mirza Kazib" . And know you are asking who had started wage sword jehad against Brits. Very nice . You are going very nice. O illitrate qadiani do you know All India Muslim league was founded in 1906. If Mirza Kazib was the representive of Muslims where were he at that time or after. Muslims were uniting to get freedom and Mirza Kazib was singing the songs of his uncle Lord Kurzon. In 1905 when Brits and Hindus were slaughtering Muslims in bengal on dispute of Division of Bengal. Where was the Mirza Kazib. He was abusing the Muslims with his uncle Lekh Ram. And do you think is it way of prophets what Mirza Kazib had adopted to praise the Enemies of Islam. Abdualaziz Mirzai why dont you Mirzai accept that you are AntiMuslim. Do you know Munafiqs are worst creature on earth. Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani was money mad and mentally sick person. Why you are ruining your end life following him. Almighty Allah has given you chance to repent. Dont ruin your end. Have not you seen how mirza kazib died in toilet with in his mouth like a pig. How many signs of his hypocrisy you will deny. How many times you will deny his writings. O mirzais there is no way to escape. If you want to save your end life. Just repent and ask forgiveness from Almighty Allah and leave this evil Mirzai way. This Mirzai way will lead you to hell. I am warning you O Qadianis. Leave Devil disciple Mirza Tahir alone. He is born to burn in hell. When you give the false excuses to justify Mirzas Bulls. Can not you understand that you are doing an evil job. Astonishing for me. Laanat Of Allah upon Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani and all his family till day of Judgement.
Rumy <na>
PK - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 10:01:34 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd I know that you play "GAY" games with Robert Hopkins. thats why you are mentioning him too much into your writings. Any how that is QADIANI way, all the Qadianis (Murtadds) like you like White Skinned People. Just like Your Mirza Ghulam Kazib who used to praise BRITTS. Hamjeed Murtadd looks like that Robert Hopkins is your lover. Isnt that true? Take him to your Pandat MIRZA TAHIR SINGH, I gurantee you HE (MIRZA ) will like it. It is good for some change too.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 06:55:46 (EST)
Hamjeed qadiani Wrath of S.H.I.T. is gona come to youy sonn, just like It came to Your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB LAANATI. Did you ever read, or did your MAMA ever tell you that How did MIrza Ghulam Kazib Laanati die? Simple as with S.H.I.T. in his mouth, Miserable way. That was Heck of a LAANAT of ALLAH (SWT) on Youyr MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. and that is in the Guinnis Book of World Records. (Only MIRZA GHULAMS NAME In THIS CATEGORY) the First Person (Laanati) who died with S.H.I.T. in His mouth.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:17:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd My e-mail changes every time, yoiu are very much concerned about that. but you are not concerned bout when your MAMA changes your father evry time. That looks normal to you? May be that is QADIANI way. Tell your mama I said HAY.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy mirza.Con>
Pk - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:12:49 (EST)
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Maryam <sfjksj@klasjf.com>
fs; - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 21:03:28 (EST)
Omar Qadiani Murtadd; Looks like that you are a new "LONDA" into MIrza Tahir Laanati's HARAM. Now I know why Mirza Tahir Kazib Like LONDAS like You. Because HE USE Them both ways (Like Grandpa Like Grandson). Mirza Ghulam Kazib used to do the same. Just read His revelations, when he claimed that HE (MIRZA GHULAM LAANATI) used to have MENSES. actually TICHI TICHI busted his ass, an he claimed it as menses. Omar Murtadd, Just be careful, dont Play TICHI TICHI with MIRZA TAHIR, OtherwiseHe is gona get all the Credit, just claiming that HE is getting HIS menses JUST LIKE HIS LAANATI GRANDPA. and you will get nothing but a Green Card.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:47:07 (EST)
Dr Ijaz Murtadd Do you remember when MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB wrote in his book that HE (MIRZA LAANATI) used to have menses? as a matter of fact MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB was a GAY. He liked to have rough sex. One night TICHI TICHI SCREWED HIM UP in a very rough way and BUSTED your Mirza Ghulam's A.s.S. Mirza was bleeding , thats what he (Mirza Laanati) claimed afterwards that HE (MIRZA) is having menses. Dr. Ijaz Murtadd; I wana ask you . Did you ever have menses like your Mirza Ghulam Laanati? If not then you are nort HIS real follower (You are not real Mirzai) To be a Mirzai You have to have MENSES just like Mirza Ghulam Kazib. That is the SEAL of Mirza's prophethood.
Qadiani Buster <QB@ Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:35:27 (EST)
Dr. Ijaz Rauf Qadiani Murtadd Where you been man all this time. Probably Milking Mirza Tahir Kazib (through His Only UDDER). Dr Ijaz Murtadd Baby you are talking about the death of Dr. iqbal Khan. What about the Miserable, Shameful, and disgusting death of Murtadd-e-Azam Mirza Ghulam Kazib (With S.H.I.T in his mouth) how could you forget that inspiring event for QADIANIS. The same way your father (the one who has his name on your birth certificate) not the real one. Dont worry I am not gona tell these people who your mother was fooling around with. By the way Do you know who your real father was. Because your mama told me that she is not sure about your real father because SHE was fooling around with a bunch of neighbors (Qadiani way) and also at that time there was no way of checking your genetic links, scientifically. Dr. Ijaz murtadd How could you forget the miserable and disgusting death of Mirza Bashir , Hakim noor din and other Qadiani Londas. Shame and Laanat on u. First wash your own a.s.s. and then tell some one else that your D.I.C.K. stinks.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY Mirza .Con>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:28:55 (EST)
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QB <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:19:42 (EST)
Messers Fateh Sher and Rumy Both of you say that Mirza Sahib flattered the British by advising Muslims not to wage Jehad with sword against the British. I have two questions. (1). Were there any Muslim ulema living in India under the British occupation, particularly the period 1890-1910 when Mirza Sahib preached his philosophy, who declared Jehad with sword against the British? If your answer to this is no then would you not call those ulema either cowards or in manifest error? (2). Here are the names of some non-Ahmadi ulema who advised Muslims not to wage Jehad with sword against the British Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Sahib of Batala, Syed Ali-al-Hairi (a Shia mujtahid), Syed Ahmad Sahib Brelvi, Maulan Maudoodi Sahib. I can give you more example. Did these non-Ahmadi make a mistake in their decision? If your answer is yes then please tell me what additional information you have now that was not available to those ulema and thus they erred in their judgement? For reading the writings of the Promised (AS) please visit the web site .alislam.org I think we settle this matter first. So please answer the above two questions. Let the other things be pended. Thank you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 20:09:07 (EST)
All I have to say is that Rashid.ali is obviously a mad mullah with too much time on his hands and if he only spent learning about Islam, which tells all muslims to allow any faith to practice freely, MR.rashid would not not have opened this web-site and thus the gates to hell. Personally I think he's quite PATHETIC. Get a life..
omar. ahmad <omar.ahmad@utoronto.>
can - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 19:53:27 (EST)
Dr. Rashid Ali Syed sahib, We have not seen you on the newsgroups for a long time. Where are you hiding after accepting the Mubahila? Would you be kind enough to come out of your hiding place and tell the readers of this newsgroups about the freshest sign of the Mubahila? Could you please tell us about Dr. Iqbal Khan the translator of your pir's book "two in one" into Arabic? Could you please tell us how did he meet his fate? Where did he die? Who removed his dead body from the place he died in? Your comments will be highly appreciated. Sincerely, Dr. Ijaz A. Rauf Department of Physics, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada,
Dr. Ijaz A. Rauf <irauf@phys.ualberta.>
Can - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 17:57:00 (EST)
RASHID ALI You can say proudly that anti ahmady literiture is available in 13 languages.Well ahmady literature is available in English, French,German,Spanish,Bosnian,Urdu,Chinese,Japanese,Thai,Persian,Italian,Turkish,Dutch,Portugese,Malay,Korean. Plus 26 of the languages of Africa and 9 of the languages from South America.And you say that we refuse to translate Mirza Ghulam Ahmads elesalam writing.I really am begining to feel sorry for you know.Except defeat, and stop spreading lyes, maybe then the wrath of the fire shall not reach you.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 14:15:19 (EST)
I do not know where you heard all of that stuff about the deaths of ahmadies from.BUT what about the death of Iqbal khan,what about the death of Zia Ul Haq, what about the death of lek ram, what about the death of those 30 maulvies who all went for hajj to pray for the destruction of ahmadiyat.They were killed in the fire last year in Mecca.Still nobody knows who caused it, because almighty allah caused it.So it seema we are winning in the mubahila.Thats all I want to say to you. RASHID ALI Why do you keep going on about face to face mubahila.The Khalifa is not that stupid.He knows what you are aiming at.You will just end up abusing him.Just say, yes I accept the mubahila in your next Qadiyani Buster posting. Then you will meat your doom.Soon after.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 14:05:12 (EST)
Qadiani buster Your e-mail address seema to change every day.Also, I would stop spreading lies about ahmadyat.Sooner or later you will be smashed to bits just like your bum chum Iqbal Khan
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:57:30 (EST)
VICTORY FOR THE AHMADIESAt last, it seems as if we have won the mubahila.The disgracefull Iqbal Khan has been destroyed from the face of the earth.No, my friend, I listaned to the news clearly enough and I read the news clearly enough, Iqbal Khan is dead, it was not a ahmady auther, it was Iqbal Khan.VICTORY FOR THE AHMADIES, MASHALAH.LAHILAHAILALAHOMUHAMMADURASOOLULAH. RumyThe promised messiah did write 30 books.The other 50 things he wrote were not books of himself,(of his own writing).In those other books he anilized the Quran ,Bible Torah etc.In those books therefor it could not possibly have said any of the rubish you have said.My Uncles sons friend who as i have mentioned before is Robert Hopkins from amnesty International has informed his senior membors during a meeting. A project to end discrimination of sect or religion will begin soon.Your finished.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:48:49 (EST)
Dear readers. Some Mirzai has listened the news wrongly. Actually one Mirzai author of three in one a book in reply to two in one died in this way. Perhaps he could not listen the news properly
USMAN <nahine>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 10:00:48 (EST)
Hamjeed and Abduaziz Mirzai. For your kind information Mirza Kazib wrote more than 80 books in his accursed life. And you have mentioned only 30 books. TABLEEGH E RISALAT is in 3 or more volumes and it is compiled by Mir Qasim Ali Ahmadi and author is Mirza Kazib. I have its three volumes in my library. Then ANJAM E ATHAM is well famous book of Mirza Kazib. Just ask from some other Mirzai. NAJAM UL HUDA. NUR AL HAQ, ZAROORAT AL ILHAM. SHAHDAT al QURAN. ARABA IJAZ E AHMADI etc are also his books. If you think my references are not correct. Just say the author of TABLIGH E RISALAT. SHAHDAT UL QURAN. ANJAM E ATHAM and all other books I mentioned is BASTARAD. LIAR. MUNAFIQ AND HYPOCRITE. Laanat of Allah upon him and his all family. If your seniors had hide Mirza Kazibs books from scene it is not my problem. Be sure my library is more richer than yours one. Yes there is an other book of Mirza Kazib you did not mention is SITARA E QAISARIA. It is collection of Mirzas letters and some other writings. As tomorrow some one will give you the reference of Roohani Khazain and you will say NO IT IS NOT MIRZAS BOOK. There are some books which are collection of Mirza Kazibs work and these all are compiled and printed by Mirzai Movement. Mister Mirzai never never deny the truth. But whom I am telling. One who can deny the truth of Finality of Prophethood of Hazarat Muhammad PBUH . What we can expect from him. Mirza Kazib himself was of double standard and hypocrite. How will be his followers. Common sense does not allow that a Mirzai can speak a truth. What is reality of Mirzait one can judge with a little observation that There is a grand conflict between Muslims and Mirzai but on the other hand there is friend ship between Mirzais and all other Anti Islamic groups. As they have symbiotic relationship. Their cause is one. That is enmity of Islam. Therefore it is not big thing what you Mirzai and your friends are saying. Your Mirzai Pandat every day spits fire against Islam and Islamic countries. I do expect from you that you Mirzai can deny the writings of Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani because I have seen you Mirzais to denying their fathers too. Mr Hamjeed do not feel it pl. What I am telling you it is truth and truth is always bitter. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani and his followers.
Rumy <na>
PK - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 09:55:46 (EST)
I don't know from where you concocted the story of Dr. Iqbal's Death but What about Mirza Ghulam's infamous and miseable death even his tong ceased to spit any words for many many hours ? What about the death of Kazib Nurruddin who fell from horse and went into comma for many days and died miserably and also don't forget the paiful death of pervert Mirza Mehmood Mian who stayed paralysed for many years. Put all of these events in Qadiani victory book as well . Afterall every perverted act in qadianism is a victory for the cult.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 06:18:57 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You only believe what Pandit Tahir's propaganda machinery is feeding you. Tell me What is your Definition of Jehad. Your Lanati Mirza abolished any struggle against Britishers and gave caution to muslims that this is forbidden. When the muslims and others were victims of brutal occupation. Islamic Jehad does not permit aggression against any country or people who are in peace with Muslims but if someone fights against Muslims and occupy their land. Then it is duty of the Muslims of that country to straggle against the aggressors with every possible mean (arm struggle political struggle etc). Muslims of occupied lands are sacrificing their lives and every thing to liberate their lands throughout the world. You Qadianis has no guts for these sacrifices, the only thing you are interested are green cards money and comforts. Look the tiny nation like Chechinyia where small Muslim nation fought a heroic war against the might of Russia and forced their army to leave their land and the day is not far away when they will get full independence. Small Kasmiri Muslims put lot of Blood in their sacred cause and India is forced to maintain half of its army in Kashmir with rock-bottom morale. Insha-Allah one day they will be liberated. As for as the Islamic Dawah is concerned you are simply blind. Hundred of thousands of Muslim preacher goes all around the world to spread the word of Allah in non-Muslims In a recent documentary from BBC it is stated that Islam is the fastest growing religion in US and Europe. but you qadiani always take sides with the people who are afraid of Muslims and enemies of Islam there fore they support cult like Qadianism on the name of so called human rights. Please ask Pandit Tahir to offer Robert some charming qadiani girl, May be his grand daughter don't miss that chance because afterall Robert has white skin (If he is not from Sailkot Pakistan) he seems quite sympathetic with qadiani cause this is a golden opportunity for you guys to bring him into your cult's fold.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 05:28:25 (EST)
An Outstanding Sign of the Victory of Mubahala ................................................. BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHIM Almighty Allah says in the Holy Qur'an Allah has decreed that "Surely I and My messengers will prevail" Assalamo Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Dr. Iqbal Khan is the person who translated the infamous book called "Two in One" into Arabic. He recently died a despicable death. He fell into pit of filth and his body was removed from the filth by local Civil Defence authorities. Allaho Akbar. IS THIS NOT A SIGN OF THE "CURSE OF ALLAH ON THE LIARS|" THESE ARE THE WORDS WHICH THE TRANSLATED BOOK CONTAINS IN BOLD LETTERS ON THE LAST PAGE. All Ahmadies should feel free, and are encouraged to, share with all their friends and the opponents of Ahmadiyyat, the news and its implications. Tell us now, Mr. Rashed Syed, has the curse of Allah already fallen upon you or not. The miserable and despicable death of the translator of the ignoble and lie-filled book "Two in One" is a sure sign of the victory of Ahmadiyyat in the Mubahala". WAssalam Yours in the service of Islam Munawar A. Saeed Chairman, Internet Committee Jama'at Ahmadiyya USA.
Readit <read@always.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 23:55:31 (EST)
An Outstanding Sign of the Victory of Mubahala .......................................................... BISMILLAHIR RAHMANIR RAHIM Almighty Allah says in the Holy Qur'an Allah has decreed that "Surely I and My messengers will prevail" Assalamo Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Dr. Iqbal Khan is the person who translated the infamous book called "Two in One" into Arabic. He recently died a despicable death. He fell into pit of filth and his body was removed from the filth by local Civil Defence authorities. Allaho Akbar. IS THIS NOT A SIGN OF THE "CURSE OF ALLAH ON THE LIARS|" THESE ARE THE WORDS WHICH THE TRANSLATED BOOK CONTAINS IN BOLD LETTERS ON THE LAST PAGE. All Ahmadies should feel free, and are encouraged to, share with all their friends and the opponents of Ahmadiyyat, the news and its implications. Tell us now, Mr. Rashed Syed, has the curse of Allah already fallen upon you or not. The miserable and despicable death of the translator of the ignoble and lie-filled book "Two in One" is a sure sign of the victory of Ahmadiyyat in the Mubahala". WAssalam Yours in the service of Islam Munawar A. Saeed Chairman, Internet Committee Jama'at Ahmadiyya USA.
News <news@news.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 23:53:07 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Laanat on you and upon your Mirza Ghulam Kazib and his Aualaad. You call my language INDECENT? What about MIRZA'S FILTHY MOUTH he used against Muslim Ummah and the trashy language of Mirza Tahir Kazib he use every day against Muslim Ummah? Shame on you. Look at the books of Mirza Ghulam Kazib. They are worst than the books of "WAHI WAHANWI". But for you MURTADDS those books are more than "GRANTH" & "BHAGWAN GEETA". Just Think before you spit the S.H.I.T out of your mouth, just like MIRZAI PANDAT.
Qadiani Buster <QB@SHITTY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 20:36:44 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Looks like that your brain got nothing but S.H.I.T. in it, just like Mirza AGHLAM KAZIB. I have told you that "QADIANI BUSTER" is more real than your father. I know that you have lost confidence about your father (Since you dont know who the hell your real father is) but THIS QADFIANI BUSTER is as much real as much the MISERABLE, SHAMEFUL, DISGUSTING and DEGRADING death of your MIRZA GHULAM (AGHLAM) kazib. Stop blaming Brother Rashid, Just blame your father, who never showed up after one night stand with your MAMA.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 20:30:38 (EST)
tets
test <tets>
tet - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 18:25:30 (EST)
Dr. Rashid Ali (alias Qadiani Buster) Please stop being a clown. Writing under the name of Qadiani Buster is not a brave act. Come in the open and let us argue like grown up intelligent people. Thanks.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:37:14 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher I am still waiting for your response. Qadiani Buster did respond to my comments referred to you. As you know he writes nothing but indecent laguage. I, therefore shall appreciate if you answer my comments. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:34:26 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Rafizi Since you happen to be a Rafizi Shia I thought I would suggest to you to visit 'sipesahaba' web site. You will find out that according to recognized ulema of Ahl e sunnat Shia are non- Muslims. If you doubt my statement then please visit their site and read these for yourself. This might open your eyes. When the dragon of discrimination becomes strong the no body is safe from him. Today you are cursing us Ahmadis but beware, tomorrow you will be the target of the same discrimination. Still there is time to see reason. (2). You say that we pay a cut to Mirza Tahir Ahmad (ATBA) from our monthly income. Please note that the contribution each Ahmadi does not go th our Khalifa. There are auditors of the Jamaat and even the Govt auditors have access to these account, if they want, because the Jamaat is a non-profit organization. Additionally as an Ahmadi our Khalifa himself contributes at a rate even higher than we normally Ahmadis do. However, those people who never pay anything in the way of Allah do not know the taste of such givings. Allah returns us many folds.For an experience please try giving charity. You will find how happy are those people who give what Allah (SWA) calls Qard e Hasana. (3) Please quit referring to non-existant writings. You are a researcher. It does not behoove you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 16:29:18 (EST)
Shiting in the pants you are.That amnesty International person is my uncles sons friend if you wanted to know.Thats how he found out.Your ed
An Ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:44:30 (EST)
YOU SO CALLED QADIYANI BUSTERYour e-mail address changes everyday does it.
An ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:42:19 (EST)
I still have had no other explanations for my theory.We are victorious once more with the grace of Allah.You seem to be ing in your pants.Amnesty have caught you.
An Ahmady <rather not say>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:40:46 (EST)
Before you try to say that I am an ahmady in disguise.Which frankly is complete rubish, i tell you that I have alerted my senior coleigue.He said that he knew of the racial discrimination of Pakistan and a project was about to be started to end it.This I'm afraid could lead to the permanent closer of web sites of this kind in a few years. Bye for now, Robert Hopkins( amnesty International)
Robert Hopkins <no need to>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:28:25 (EST)
RUMY You want to know the names of the books writtn by THE PROMISSED MESSIAH.I will tell you the names of all of them. I am sure you know of a person called Ian Adamson. He has written many books on the lives of the promissed messiah and the present khalif. At the back of each of his books. He has given the names of each and every book written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad elesalam who IS the promised messiah. I cannot seem to find the books you have mentioned. When I ask for them at the mosque. They do not come up on the computer. They quite obviously, do not exist. The names are as followes Braheen I Ahmadiya, Purani Tahirain,Sabz Iar, Fat he Islam, Tauzeeh e Maryaam,Izala e Auham,The Ludihana debate, Asaami Faisla, Nishaan e Aadamani, Aaeena e Kamalaat, Barakat ud duaa,Hujjatul Islam, jang e Muqadaas,Nur ul Haq, Sirrul Khalifa,Saat bachen, Islami Usul kie philosophy,Kitabul Bryaa,Ayyamus Sulh, Masih Hindustan main,Tiraqul Kulub,Khutba Ilhamiyya,Lujaa tun noor, I Jaaz ul Masih, Ek Ghalati, Kashti e noor, Tazkiratush,Islam ur is mulk ke mazaahab,Al Wasiya and Haqiqatul Wahi.So those books you mentioned are made up.These are the true books so think twice next time you miserably fail to make a false judgement.ALSO, JUST BECAUSE AN AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PERSON HAS FOUND OUT EXACTLY HOW BAD IT IS YOU ARE BECOMING SCARED AND WORRIED.YOU KEEP THINKING IT IS ME WHO PRETENDED TO BE ROBERT BUT I TELL YOU FROM NOW, IT WAS NOT.THEN YOU WILL BE PRAYING FOR FORGVNESS WHEN YOUR COUNTRY IS IN RUIN AND SO ARE YOU.ROBERT WAS BEING ROBERT.I COME ON THIS WEB SITE AS ME AND NOBODY ELSE.
Rashid Hamjeed <no junk mail>
- Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 13:16:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Mirzai. Would you please tell me how many books Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani wrote in his life and what are the names of those. I am sure you don't know. Because you are only interested in VISA. The best way is just go to Mission house and ask for list of Mirza Kazibs books. And abdulaziz qadiani you go to some library and ask for books on history of British India. Your history is very poor. One good character I have oserved in Mirzais that they can change any time. They can change their sex. They can change their Race. They can change their names. They can change their fathers. They can change their religion. They are very flexible. I appreciate them in this sense.Now a days one Mirzai has changed his father including race and writing with English name. Its easy way to become GORA. Actually many Mirzai thinks that Canadian permanent residence VISA means One becomes Canadian. And as canadians are white therefore these people should be counted Whitemen. Therefore one Mirzai even has changed every thing. He works on common proverb Do in Roam as Roamans do. Laanat of Allah be upon Mirza Ghulam and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 09:01:18 (EST)
TC SPECIALIST MIRZA KAZIB GHULAM A QADIANI. Mirza Kazib was a TC specialist. He had some debates with Christian Missionaries in his life. And he used somewhere some harsh words for those missionaries too. When his master governor general inquired on this then how he licked his balls. Here is one piece of his writing from TIRYAQ al QULUB page 130. He wrote " I also confess that when some of the writings of priests and Christian missionaries became extremely severe and exceeded moderation and especially when very filthy writings began to appear in NUR AFSHAN a Christian paper from Ludhiana and when these writers used God forbid such words with regard to our prophet PBUH. Then by reading such books and papers I fearedthat in the hearts of Muslims who are sentimental people. These words might create a highly provocative effect. Then in order to calm down this enthusiasm. I considered it expendient that the proper policy would be to reply to these writings somewhat harshly so that the enthusiasm of easily inflammable people is suppressed and no breach of peace in country takes place." Dear readers have you seen how was he specialist in TC. Next time inshallah I will tell you more about this Laanati Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani. Bye.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 08:41:03 (EST)
SPECIMENS OF MIRZA KAZIB GHULAM A QADIANIS JEHAD. Mirza Kazib ghulam a qadiani on one hand he was busy in fawning of his anti Islamic British masters on the other hand he was using abusive language for Muslims. The best specimens of his abuses are found in his Arabic writings. Prose as well as poetry. Here are a few of them. In his book ANJAM E ATHAM at page 158 he wrote about muslims " Now if these people abuse me then I have already taken off all their clothes and have rendered them into Irrecognizable carcasses" In the same book at page 21 He said "O debased class of Moulvis how long will you conceal the truth. When will the time come for you to give up Jewish habits. O tyrant Maulvis pity on you that you made the cattle like common folk drink from the same cup of falsehood you had drunk." In another MIRZAI JEHAD with Pir Meher Ali Shah sahib of Golra he wrote " So I said O land of Golra upon thee be curse. Thou hast been accursed because of the accursed ones" IJAZ E AHMADI p 75 & 76. In another Qadiani type Jehad NAJAM al HUDA page 15 he wrote " These enemies have become the swines of our forest. And their women are even worse than bitches." This subject is neither pleasant for me nor palatable for readers. These specimens were just to guess the spirit of Mirza Kazibs Jehad E Akbar.
Rumy <na>
PK - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 08:39:33 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani and Qadiani ? in disguise of Robert - First Abdul-Aziz Qadiani I asked you why don't you follow the law of a country and why you hide your Qadiani identity while applying for Ummarah/Hajj. You said who gave us the right to say you non-muslims. Have you ever raised that question to Pandat Tahir that who give right to Kazib Mirza Ghulam and Pervert Mirza Mehmood to declare the entire muslim Ummah Kafir ? You are simply a hypocrite nothing more nothing less. Even if you manage to sneak into Saudia your heart trembles due to the fear of Saudi 'Shurtas' (fearing they might caught you) so you don't get ant peace of mind even in those places. Better go for Qadian Yatira Or cult-house yatira in London. These are the places for cultists not the holly cities of Muslims. Cultist XYZ who is pretending to be from amnesty international. Amnesty should better watchout in their own backyard in Europe and North America where so many people are suffering because of racism and ruthless capitalism (26 million alone are living in very poor conditions in USA lot of them are homeless). Now back to Abdul-Aziz Qadiani You said britishers became very pious and humane from 1870-1908. Masha-Allah it shows how much knowledge you have of history. They were capturing colonies and plundering poor nations of Africa Middle-East Asia South-East Asia and were busy looting and exploiting poor people of many countries but Mr wise you are saying that they were providing heavenly shelter for their subjects. You qadianis have no shame when you praise britishers Even many fairminded British elites of today are writing and discussing the miseries which British raj brought on the people of sub-continent during their stay in India but what you know of reality Mirza and his father were providing them men against freedom fighters of India in 1857 along with punjabi fuedals. They were worst traitors.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Wednesday, February 04, 1998 at 05:25:38 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd 10 Million Rupees, Your mama can make it very easily for you. Just Take her to "HEERA MANDI" and see how fast you get the 10 million rupees. You will even forget about Brother Rashid. Just dont forget 10% for Mirza Tahir Kazib.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 19:08:02 (EST)
Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Some time you are Hamjeed Qadiani And SOME TIMES "ROBERT HOPKINS". I wonder When was the last time YOUR MOTHER SLEPT with Christian or SHE MIGHT HAVE FOOLED AROUND with the "BHANGI" the one who removed your "MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S" Stinking body. Thats why she probably gave you the name ROBERT HOPKINS. Any how Enjoy both names just like your Mama enjoyed Different MENs. She Was great lady (No Discrimination against any body, Make every body Happy). You are following her footsteps. Keep on working with amnesty international, because there is not gona be any AMNESTY for you (MURTADD) in the next life (Insha ALLAH). Ok HAMJEED MURTADD.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 18:56:41 (EST)
LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR QADIANI MURTADDS
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 18:50:44 (EST)
I work for Amnesty International.I was asked to visit this site by one of my coligues. I have to day that I am surprised at what I read. Racism and political discrimination now, in 1998. This is like NAZI Germany.That was in 1938. It shows how backward you people are.I have many Ahmady and non-ahmady friends who get along very well.Why is it that you have to discriminate. Is it that you are jelous that the number of ahmadies has risen from a mere 40 to a massive 13 million in less than a year. There are now more ahmadies then there are Jews.I myself am working for amnesty International and am going to make sure someone of a high rank hears about this.AND Mr.Ali, I would watch out.You are lucky you are hiding in the gulf.Had you been in Britain or America or any place in Europe for that matter you would have been locked up by now. I as a Christian am warning you. You don't find anti- protestant or Catholic sites like this. I am also very interested in the ahmady faith and do not recall hearing of those books which rumy has mentioned or what Rashid Ali has mentioned for that matter.I have a list of all the books written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad with me now.None of them except Jesus in India I'm afraid.STOP THE LIES.STOP THE DISCRIMINATION.I am saying this one more time, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT NAZI GERMANY WAS BAD.BECAUSE PAKISTAN AND YOU ARE DOING THE SAME NOW.WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NAZI,S WILL HAPPEN TO YOU .
Robert Hopkins <Should not have to >
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 14:16:11 (EST)
RASHID ALI I want the 10 million ruppes now. The only book you mentioned over there that exists is Jesus in India which means nothing to you.All it says is Jesus died at the age of 120 in India. The other books you mentioned do not exist.ANYWAY, I AM BEGINNING TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU PEOPLE.You always seem to be caught out.Rashid you have some explaning to do. LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:58:15 (EST)
RUMY You would be a good actor.The way you can make up the names of books on the spot.I am sure you got some help from Rashid Ali MURTAD who too makes the names of books up on the spot in his so called 10 million ruppee reward rubish.The names of those books are made up and they DO NOT exist Victory for the Ahmadies again
Rahid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:52:47 (EST)
LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOE NONE You so called QADIANI BUSTER I asked for some other explanaition other than that odf my ahmady brother.Not abuse You obviously do not have any other explanation. We obviously have won We obviously will win when each and every one of you MULLAH MURTADS will burn in hell
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 13:49:25 (EST)
QADIANI MASTER TARA SINGH "MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB" MURDAH-BAD. Dear Readers Just look at the face of MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB, Does'nt he look like "MASTER TARA SINGH"? Of Course HE Does. Because HE (MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB) is carrying the same genes. Muslims Brothers, Your Vote on this Matter is Highly appreciated. From No On you can refer Mirza Tahir as Qadiani Tara Singh Mirza Tahir Kazib.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 06:06:12 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD QADIANI Brother FATYEH SHER do not have to give you any certificate about KALIMA. As long nas you are following MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB, as long as you are singing for MIRZA KAZIB, you are a MURTADD, OUT OF THE FOLD OF ISLAM, YOU are LAANATI just Like Mirza Tahir Kazib, YOU KNOW TAHT, MIRZA KNOW TAHT and the WHOLE MUSLIM UMMAH KNOWS THAT. You are born from the dirty SPURMS injected by the BRITTS into "MIRZAS" ass, You "QADIANIS" are DIRTY as "PIGS". Just BRING the Picture of your "MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB" dying with S.H.I.T. in his mouth, and think what kind of person was HE (MIRZA LAANATI) and why ALLAH (SWT) gave him such a Miserable, Shameful, and Disgusting DEATH? Was'nt that a lesson for LAANATIS like you to learn. Or YOU have "S.H.I.T" in your brains that nothing reasonable and Logical can go in. You are blaming "BROTHER RASHID" to be writing under the name of "QB" . As i have told you that "THIS QADIANI BUSTER" is more real than your FATHER. YOU may not know Who the Hell your FATHER was, BUT THIS "QADIANI BUSTER" is REAL as much as the MISERABLE and Shameful Death of Your MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB. If you still dont believe, ask your MAMA, She knows me VERY WELL.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:58:39 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani says that this site is becoming pornographic. Is this reason why Mirzai girls like to visit this site regularly. for example Maryiam Qadiani is very active. I know Mirza was using the words like "son of prostitutes" etc for Muslims and Now their own generation is offsprings of bitches who are the results of meetings or matings of Mirza Tahir. Love for all hatered for none.
Question <q@shitymirza.com>
Pk - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:38:07 (EST)
Dear readers. Here on this page an ignorant illiterate person Abdulaziz Mirzai says " Mirza Kazib fought JEHAD E AKBAR The grand Jehad against enemies of Islam with pen" here is an example of his Jehad. TIRYAQ al QULUB page 130. He wrote " I also confess that when some of the writings of priests and Christian missionaries became extremely severe and exceeded moderation and especially when very filthy writings began to appear in NUR AFSHAN a Christian paper from Ludhiana and when these writers used God forbid such words with regard to our prophet PBUH. Then by reading such books and papers I feared that in the hearts of Muslims who are sentimental people. These words might create a highly provocative effect. Then in order to calm down this enthusiasm. I considered it expedient that the proper policy would be to reply to these writings somewhat harshly so that the enthusiasm of easily inflammable people is suppressed and no breach of peace in country takes place." Then this illiterate abdulaziz mirzai said . Britishers were not depriving Islam. Perhaps this man is so ignorant that he had neither read the history of India nor Mirza Kazibs books where Mirza Kazib had confessed proudly to support Britishers against Muslim freedom fighters of India in 1857. When near about 0.1 Million muslims were slaughtered by his master Britishers.His excuse is Because Mirza Laanati was born in Punjab and before Britishers there was the rule of Sikhs who were cruel with Muslims Therefore Mirza supported the Britishers. My question to this hypocrite Mirzai cult is " Was this reason he never wrote against Sikhs" and As in Punjab Sikhs were ruling before the arrival of Mirzas Master Britishers due to that he forbade Jehad all over the world. And now he is giving the date 1870 to 1908. Perhaps he does not know the names of founders of Muslim league. But my question is. Is it way of prophets what that Laanati Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani has adopted. Did prophets supported enemies of Islam. For Muslims Mirza Kazib was using the abusive words and for enemies of Islam Her majesty and His majesty. Shame for followers of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani. Do not worry I will provide more writings of Mirza Kazib INSHALLAH where he has licked the ass of his british masters. Actually mission of Mirzait is to ruin the Islam but they do not know they will be ruined as Mirza Kazib was died in toilet with in his mouth.
Rumy <na>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:26:50 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani and Hamjeed Mirzai. Very good my ignorant Mirzais. Now you are denying Mirza Kazibs writings. What a obedient disciples are you. Shame. If these books are not in your easy access ask your murabees or laanati Pundat Mirza Tahir to provide you. I appreciate your knowledge. I think even you have not read complete set of Roohani Khazain. Shame you Mirzais. And Mirza for your kind information Mirza Kazib was born in 1839 or 1840. Therefore in 1857 he was quite young. According to Mirza Kazib himself he started BAK BAK in early his age.Lanat of Allah be upon Mirza Ghulam A qadiani and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Tuesday, February 03, 1998 at 05:07:22 (EST)
Dear readers Again my comment was only partially posted I had asked Mr. Fateh Sher to produce a certificate issued to him bt Allah or His Prophet authorizing him to declare a kalima sayer a Muslim or non-Muslim. Thank you. To Dr. Rashid I assume (and I may be wrong. Allah knows better) that you are writing under the name 'Qadiani Buster'. I request you not to defame Islam by making this useful page a pornographic and adult site. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <m>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 21:35:37 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher A part of my previous comments could not be posted for some technical reasons. I was giving the similarities and differences in Ahmadis and non-Ahmadis. I had given the similarities in the previous comments. Now the differences. (1) Non-Ahmadis do not believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is 'khatamannabiyyeen'. For them it is Hazrat Issa (AS). I say so because to my previous comments where I proved from Quran that if the non-Ahmadis believe as they do then for them Issa(AS) and not Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is Khatamannabiyyeen. None of you contested my comment. (2) Non-Ahmadis do not believe in the Quranic version of Jehad. (Again none of you were able to refute my argument on this subject). (3). Non- Ahmadis are hypocrites. They do not do what they say. Example They believe in waging Jehad with sword but are doing nothing for the liberation of Palestine and Kashmir. They are not doing any thing like Jehad with sword against the Bosnian Serbs, or against the Americans, British and the French who killed a million Iraqis (children included). (4). They kill innocent Muslims (Pakistan and Algeria are examples). (5). Most of them are illiterate (Pakista, India, Bangla Desh are examples). They do nothing to preach Islam to the rest of the world (only Ahmadis are doing this duty). Mr. Fateh Sher, given the corrupt practices of non-Ahmadis what justice are you using to call Ahmadis non-Muslims. If any thing they are as much Muslims as you are if not better. If you can't produce this certificate then please fear God whose Hand is so swift and strong that nothing of you will be left in an instant. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 21:24:42 (EST)
Rashid Hamjeed Qadiani Murtadd Can you explain the event of MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S MISERABLE, SHAMEFUL and DISGUSTING DEATH (WITH S.H.I.T. in His Mouth). Just picture the death of your MIRZA , With S.H.I.T. in his mouth, and then the dead body being removed by "BHANGIS" by covering their faces and noses. You call QADIANIS victorious? Go ahead do it. When you gona die this way, it will be another victory for QADIANIS (MURTADDS).
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.COn>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:52:30 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI MURTADD What kind of B.U.L.L. S.H.I.T are you talking about? What Do YOU have in your brains? The QADIANIS are "MURTADDS" You know that very well, we know that very well and the whole Muslim UMMAH knows that veryt well. QADIANIS "MURTADDS" do not have any ULEMASD, they have "PUNDATS" and MANHOOS FACED MURABBIS like YOU. Do not confuse your JuNK with ULEMAS. You dont even know the meaning of the word "Ulema", and naming your MANHOOS faced Murabbis as ULEMAS, LAANAT of ALLAH (SWT) be upon you and upon your MIRZA KAZIB, OH AZIZ MURTADD.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:47:19 (EST)
Rashid Hamjeed Qadiani MURTADD You just start with the LOVE of Mirza Tahir Kazib, Because HE Like "LONDAS" like You. HE (MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB) like to Use "LONDAS" both ways. You know what I mean. Because You are in this business. If you dont, Go and ask MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. He will make you understand "PRACTICALLY".
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 18:38:46 (EST)
BAAP KAA JOOTA BAITAY KAY SAR Harshest criticism of Pakistan HR, political situation By Shaheen Sehbai WASHINGTON, Feb 1 The US State Department has issued the harshest criticism yet of Pakistan's general political and human rights situation, saying the government infringed on citizens' privacy rights, extrajudicial killings in Karachi were still common, the judiciary was under political influence and journalists were on payrolls of agencies. "The government's human rights record remained poor in 1997, with serious problems regarding police abuse, religious discrimination, and child labour." These, and other sweeping observations have been made in the Annual 1997 Human Rights Report of the State Department, released here on Jan 30, in which Pakistan has received twice as much space and attention as India. The report said" The government imposes limits on the freedom of assembly, movement, and-for the Ahmadis in particular-religion. The extrajudicial killing of criminal suspects, often in the form of deaths in police custody or staged encounters in which the police shoot and kill the suspects, is common." It, however, noted that although Karachi remained a hotbed of politically-motivated violence, extrajudicial killings by security forces there had diminished (as compared to the previous government) The overall failure of successive governments to prosecute and punish abusers was the single greatest obstacle to ending or even reducing the incidence of abuse by the police, it said. The authorities sometimes transferred, suspended, or arrested offending officers, but seldom prosecuted or punished them. Investigating officers generally shielded their colleagues. The report said Amnesty International estimateed that up to 100 people died from police torture each year. It said the Accountability Commission, established by the caretaker government and headed by a retired judge, had been overshadowed by an "accountability cell," headed by a close associate of the prime minister. This cell had been accused of conducting politically-motivated investigations of politicians, senior civil servants, and business figures, designed to extract evidence and, in some cases, televised confessions of alleged wrongdoers. The report gave the examples of televised confessions extracted from Salman Farooqi, secretary of commerce under Benazir Bhutto; Ahmed Sadiq, Benazir Bhutto's principal secretary; and Zafar Iqbal, chairman of the Capital Development Authority. It said most politicians and bureaucrats, who had been charged with corruption or other crimes, were out on bail (in addition to murder, Benazir Bhutto's husband, Asif Zardari, had also been charged with corruption). The report said" The MQM contends that several thousand of its members are still in jail on politically-motivated charges which date from the 1992-96 period. The government is supposed to be reviewing the cases of these imprisoned individuals (most of whom are awaiting trial) to see if they can be released. To date, few of them have been released." It said that although Pakistan's constitution provided for an independent judiciary; in practice, the judiciary was subject to political influence. " Journalists, routinely underpaid, are on the unofficial payrolls of many competing interests, and the military (or elements within it) is presumed to be no exception."
Dawn Karachi <bb.bb@com>
? - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 17:42:52 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher Thank you for telling me that you don't come from Akora Khattak. Bt Attock is pretty close to Akhora. Well may be people differ. Any way if you were from Akora you would not be debasing your words like you are doing now. However, this is not a big point. What is strange in writing is that you want Messrs Ali and Waraich to go to Saudi Consulate and in the box 'religion' write it Ahmadiyyat and not Islam. It is a travesty Mr Fateh Sher. Ahmadis believe in Islam as their religion. They believe in Prphet Muhammad (SAS) as their master and Allah's messenger. They perform all the duties required of them by Allah and his prophet Muhammad (SAS). They believe in him as 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. Now let us get to your position. You say the same Kalima. You believe in five pillars of Islam as they do. The differences are (1) You don't believe in {rophet Muhammad (SAS) as 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. (2). You don't believe in Quranic teachings regarding Jehad
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 13:12:21 (EST)
Mr. Rumy Thy name is lies and ignorance. After your last posting referring to non-existing writings of the Promised Messiah (AS) I want to change your title. (RUMY THY NAME IS LIES, IGNORANCE AND FABRICATIONS). Mr. Rumy you are not answering my question. Tell me the names of non-Ahmadi ulema who were alive in the period 1880-1910 (Period of Mirza Sahib's preaching as Imam Mahdi) who preached Jehad with sword against the British. If you can't give me the names please call those Ahmadi ulema cowards, British boot lickers and/or non-Muslims. Also if you think those non-Ahmadi ulema erred in their decision not to wage Jehad against the British then please tell me what additional research or revelation from Allah (SWA) has made you declare those ulema in error.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 12:39:55 (EST)
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RYR - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:39:20 (EST)
I HAVE TO START WITH LOVE FOR ALL AND HATRED FOR NONE. SECONDLY, MY AHMADY BROTHER MADE A FEW VERY GOOD POINTS AND IS ASKING FOR EXPLANAITIONS PTHER THAN HIS. THERE ARE NONE . YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY. AHMADIYAT IS VICTORIOUS ONCE MORE. AND ONCE RASHID ALI IS RUINED, WE WILL BE EVEN MORE VICTORIOUS.IT WILL HAPPEN SOON , BELEIVE ME.
Rashid Hamjeed <rather not say>
- Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:36:55 (EST)
I AM STILL WAITING FOR EXPLANAITIONS OTHER THAN MINE.IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE AHMADIES HAVE WON AGAIN. OH AND RUMY, THOSE TWO BOOKS YOU MENTIONED DON'T EXIST
An Ahmady <no junk mail>
- Monday, February 02, 1998 at 11:32:00 (EST)
Dear readers. Here is another piece of Mirzas writing from his book SHAHADAT al QURAN. " My religion which I have been explaining again and again us that there are two parts of Islam. One to obey the exalted Allah and second to obey the government which has established peace and has provided its shadow of protection as against opression. Such a government is the British Government." And in another book TABLIGH E RISALAT page 17 he wrote " I believe that as my followers increase the believers in the doctrine of JEHAD will decrease. For accepting me to be the Messiah and Mehdi itself means the rejection of the doctrine of JEHAD" The Mirza Kazibs main concern was JEHAD which indeed had caused the greatest worry to the British not only in India but in all Muslim countries.Quite a number of which had already been occupied by British. The Mirza Kazib proclaimed JEHAD to have been abrogated for ever and put forward this as the sign of his being the Promised Messiah. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 08:40:02 (EST)
Abdulaziz Mirzai. Here is a piece of writing of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A qadiani from his book TIRYAQ al QULUB page 15. He wrote " The greater part of my life has been spent supporting and defending the British Government. And I have written so many books regarding the prohibition of JIHAD and obedience to the British that were they to be gathered together. They would fill fifty almirahs. Such books have disseminated over all the countries. viz Arabia. Egypt Syria Kabul and Room. I have always endeavoured that Muslims became true well wisher of this Government and their hearts were purged of baseless traditions about the Mehdi and Messiah and those fanatical teachings which corrupt the hearts of the stupid" This is the view of Mirza Kazib Ghulam a Qadiani. Laanat of Allah upon him and his disciples. Abdulaziz Mirzai look at your laanati Mirzas face. How is he licking the British ass.
Rumy <na>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 08:17:14 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd Are you afraid to go in front of Saudi Consulate in Canada and declare that You are QADIANI (MURTADD)? What a Hypocracy you are living in. AZIZ Murtadd, If you really have Balls (That Mostly Qadiani "Murtadds") dont have like Mirza Ghulam Kazib, Go with Brother Fateh Sher, say openly that You are a QADIANI (Declared Murtadd by Muslim Ummah) and wana apply for Hajj, Umrah Visa. See what happens. Make sure you carry your Green card (That Mirzai Pandat Tahir Murtadd Got for you) with you. Or Tkae a QADIANI "HOOR" with you that might help.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:51:08 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI (MURTADD) Good work, at least you admitted in some way that Your Laanati MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB was a British agent, was on the Payroll of Britts and was working against the Muslims and above alkl was preaching against "JIHAD". LAKH LAKH LAANAT UPON YOUR MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB and on his Ummatis LIKE YOU, WARAICH, ALI QADIANI and other MURTADDS.
QADIANI BUSTER <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.CON>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:43:46 (EST)
Brother Fateh Sher You are absolutly right. All these QADIANIS (MUNAFIQS & MURTADDS)do lie on the Saudi Umrah?Hajj Applications declaring themself a Muslims. Why ? Because "LYING" and Hypocracy is the Main Menifest amnd MOTTO of "QADIANISM" and also because "IBLEES" ask them to do that. Thats the way these QADIANIs "MURTADDS" take their dirty and Manhoos bodies into those Holy City. That is also a conspiracy of the QADIANI Cult to do that. Believe ot If these QADIANI "MURTADDS" declare themself as "QADIANIS" in from of the Saudi consulates, The Saudis will kick their asses out of the Consulates and embassies too. Because just stepping of these MURTADDS (Qadianis) make that place "TO BE CLEANED and WASHED" again. The existance of these QADIANIS (MURTADDS) is worst than PIGS, that if we touch them by mistake we have to wash ourselves FORTY (40) times.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 06:39:28 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani Sahib - You guys too quickly jump on conclusions. I said I am from Attock (formerly known as Cambell-Pure) which is small city north west of Islamabad. Go and read my previous post. What I said was you guys always boast all over the net. That you are Qadiani/Ahmadi and challenge everybody that Ahmadiyyat is true Islam And now when you clearly know that Saudi govt don't allow Qadianes into holly cities. Why you do hypocricy to declare yourself from mainstream Isalm to get into the holly cities. If you are honest and truthfull you should never ever had dodged and broke the law of a country and should always not tried to enter into this country. But you all follow the munafaqat of Mirza that's why lying in your cult is not a big deal. I should have posted you a form but at the moment they are not entertaining applications for Visa till july so could not provide me the form thats why I am asking lets go to Saudi Consolate and ask them either they allow Qadiani for Hajj or Ummarah. Is this a to big ask for you. You don't have to do anything I will enquire from them and you simply listen.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 03:35:50 (EST)
Mr. Aziz, ha ha ha test
ali <ali@canada.com>
can - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 23:07:10 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Shes You said that you come from Akora Khattak. My God what a contrast. I have had friends from your town. They were upright and men of their word. Once they said something they would stick to that as a line etched in stone. How come you have no respect for your words. In response to my message you wrote that there is a column in Visa application form for Umra where a person has to state whether he is a sunni, shia or an Ahmadi. You concluded that once you declare yourself an Ahmadi you would not be granted Umra Visa. I contested the accuracy of your statement. Now I find you are asking Messers Ali and Waraich to go with you to Saudi Consulate and declare voluntarily that you are an Ahmadi. How come you changed your position so significantly. Tell me honestly, are you a born resident of Akhora Khattak or you moved from some place? I can assure you that if you did the same thing in Akhora Khattak your father would kill you. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu.aol.com>
USA - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 22:24:28 (EST)
Dear readers According to Quran "la ikraha fiddeen", i.e., no compulsion in religion is permitted by Allah (SWA). In another ayah, "Believers are permitted to fight because they have been persecute and driven from their home simply because they say 'Allah is our Lord'". In another aya, "Fight O Prophet till the religion is for Allah and mosques, churches, and synagogues are safe and only Allah's name rises from them". In another ayah, "Strive against the Kafirs with Quran". Quran and Hadith both state fighting with Quran, i.e. using Quranic reasons, against the disbelievers is Jehad e Akbar and fighting with sword is Jehad e Asghar. During the period 1880-1910, the British did did not persecute Muslims for their religion as is vouchshafed by all non-Ahmadi ulema and political leaders Mirza sahib did not preach waging a war with sword against the British. He preached Jehad against the British using Quran, i.e. Jehad e Akbar. Further, Mirza Sahib lived in Punjab. Before the Britsh conquered Punjab, Ram Garhia Sikhs were the rulers of Punjab. These sikhs had converted large mosques, such as Shahi Masjid Lahore, into stables for their horses. They had prohibited Muslims to call azan. Muslim women were a fair game for the sikhs and once abducted they were not returned to Muslaims. After the British defeated the sikhs the mosques were returned to Muslims; they were permitted to say azan and practise their religion withou fear. No sikh could abduct a Muslim woman. Now tell me dear readers using Quranic reasoning where is the justification to wage Jehad with sword against the British. Also should'nt the Muslim masses be grateful to the British who saved them from a terrible situation. According to Hadith," A person not grateful man is not grateful to Allah". Fear Allah before you build your case on lies and fabrications. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu.aol.com>
USA - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 22:13:00 (EST)
An Aamady Mirzai. Either you are liar or you are ignorant. Mirza Kazib did preached satanic law. Do you know about Zilli Hajj. That is a replacement Hajj of Mecca. All the MALOON Mirzais go to the Qadian. Then even he has chnged the name of Islamic months. And these are SULH. TABLIGH. AMAN. SHADAT. HIJRAT. IHSAN. WAFA. ZUHUR. TABUK. IKHA. NABUWWAT and FATH. This anti Mecca was like the ABRAH of Yemen about whom there is a chapter in Quran ELEPHANTS. If you want to know more about ZILLI HAJJ I may help you in this case. Be sure an ASS LICKER of anti Islamic forces can not be a prophet. He was laanati and he is dwelling in the HAVIA With all his disciples. Laanat of Allah upon Mirza and his disciples.
Rumy <na>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 19:02:45 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani. Mahdi of Sudan fought many battles against Britishers and defeated them.And killed the General Gordon. For confirmation see any history book. On the otherhand Mirza Kazib wrote in KITAB al BARIYAH at page 151 that. "I come from a family which is out and out loyal to this government. My father Murtaza Who was considered its well wisher used to be granted a chair in the Governors Durbar and has been mentioned by Mr.Griffin in his HISTORY of the princes of Punjab.In 1857 he helped the British government beyond his power that is he procured cavalaries and horses right during the time of Mutiny" In this way Mirza Kazib was licking the ass of Governor general of India. The second point is Mahdi of Sudan martyred in 1885. At that time Mirza Kazib was of 46 as he was born in the year 1839.It is different story that Gurdaspur borer Mirza Kazib was serving in the office of Deputy Commisioner of Sialkot as Junior clerk 1864 to 1878. He himself was washing the ass of Britshers. AS now Pundit Laanati Mirza Tahir is doing. Laanat of Allah upon the grand liar Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani and all his followers. Indeed they are followers of Iblees.
Rumy <na>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 18:40:04 (EST)
Ok Here is my explanaition. It was fortold in Hadith and the Quran that before the end of the 13th century in the muslim calender the messiah and Mahdi would come and revive Islam.It is now 1418.There has been only one person who has claimed to be the messiah.This person is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.Since the 13th century is long gone, he is the only possible person to be the messiah. It was also fortold that the messiah would be born during the holy month of ramadan.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was. It was also told that during that month there would be a lunor eclipse and an eclipse of the sun.This also happened during that month. This has been scientificely prooven to have happened. All of this too the intelligent mind at least would lead down to the simple conclusion that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the PROMISED messiah and mahdi. That thing you gorilla's with 10 foot beards claim about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claiming to be a prophet. I have an explanaition about this as well. THE LAW BEARING PROPHET Prophet Muhammed was the last law bearing prophet. NON LAW BEARING PROPHETS These were dependent on other prophets.Many came after Moses. REFLECTION PROPHET This is what Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was. These prophets bring no new laws and no new religion and no new book. Oh by the way Mr. Ali, you know that thing you have said in your web site bout the mistake made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. The books you have mentioned DO NOTexist.YOU LOST THIS ONE I'M AFRAID. So, I await further explanaitions on this made by people like Mr.Ali who do not bother reading the facts first.
An Ahmady <No Junk Mail>
- Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 17:01:47 (EST)
I am still waiting for explanaitions about my statement. It seems you don't have any In case you missed it I will post it in a few minutes Let me have my dinner first
An Ahmady <No junk mail>
- Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 15:59:03 (EST)
Shabash Qadiani buster putter. Keep going. I am getting a lot of money from Dr. Rashid for your wonderful efforts. Don't give up. Don't feel shame if some one tells you to be indecent, foul mouthed or an idiot. Let me give you an example. You know on the circus gate stands a clown. He makes funny movements, talks funny, sometimes plucks the hair of people getting into the circus tent. Many people don't like it but they bear with him because they think that this guy needs to earn something for himself and his children. So even if nobody talks with this clown he keeps doing his funny work. My dear son, just keep doing what you are doing. Does'nt matter that all you say is . If these qadianis ignore you as many visitors to circus agnore that clown don't worry. I need money and Dr. Rashid has plenty. Good luck my dear clown.
Qadiani Busters' mom <nnn>
Pak - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 10:43:38 (EST)
Brother Khaled Ismail Assalam-O-Alaikum Brother How could the people like QADIANIS understand the "HOLY QURAN" whereas they have nothing But "S.H.I.T" in there brains just like their Kazib Master MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB. Who Died In utter Disgrace (WITH S.H.I.T. in His Mouth) You Know that, I know that and the WHOLE MUSLIM UMMAH KNOWs That, But as ALLAH (SWT) have also mentioned in the Holy Quran that If the people do not want to understand, I put Seal on their Hearts and Brains, So that nothing can go in. That is the Case with the MURTADDS (QADIANIS). They are the most CURSED people on this planet. Just a simple Question. If Mirza Would be a NABI, A Prophet or even a Mehdi, Why would he Die in SUCH a DISGRACEFUL, SHAMEFUL and Disgusting WAY (WITH S.H.I.T. IN HIS MOUTH) . Can any QADIANI (MURTADD) answer this simple question?
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 07:21:40 (EST)
Brother RUMY SALAM You are absolutly right. All the Qadiani MURTADDS think that the DEATH MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB DIE (WITH S.H.I.T in His Mouth) wsa a blessing for all the QADIANI CULT. Just like the Christians say that JESUS (PBUH) died for their sins, same way ALL THESE QADIANI MURTADDS think that the MIRZA KIND DEATH is their Destiny and Blessings for them. MAY ALLAH (SWT) Give all these QADIANIS Death Just like there Kazib Master MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB (WITH S.H.I.T. in their Mouths). Amen
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 07:13:23 (EST)
Maryam qadiani MURTADDAH AHA, So you came out of Chains too after the Holy Month of Ramadan. I knew that YOU MUST HAVE BEEN CHAINED UP along with your Master IBLEES. and Your Chief Pandat Mirza Tahir Kazib. May CURSE OF ALLAH (SWT) be upon all of You Murtadds. Maryam MURTADDAH, are you also on the List that Mirza Tahir Kazib Has to arrange Green Cards for or You are among that Group of QADIANI "HOORS" that help the Illegal Qadiani Murtadds To get the Green Cards (By Fake Paper Marriages)? How is Your relationship with MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB? I have been told that You have already been blessed by Mirza Tahir Kazib (In the Darknes of Night). What a Blessing. Get some more.
Qadiani Buster <QB@PIGGY MIRZA.Con>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 07:07:21 (EST)
Hello Followes of Mirza Kazib, If you have one percent 'Aqal' left for religious truthfulness. All those Ayats where name of my beloved last Prophet(saw) came as Ahamad and Mirza Kazib said these Ayats are addressing him. Look at the context of those ayats and you will clearly see that these ayats are addressing my master (saw). But alas you are spiritually blind and can't differentiate between truth and falsehood. I request to all qadianis to go and read those ayats carefully and think deeply you will find the truth and get to know the cheating which Mirza did to you. May Allah help you to find the truth (amin).
Khalid Ismail <na>
USA - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 03:23:42 (EST)
Maryiam Qadiani. Even then all those Qadianis are Murtadd who were converted from Islam to Mirzaiet. Laanat of Allah upon them and the grand liar Mirza Ghulam of Qadian.
Rumy <na>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 00:39:46 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani. Whats your opinion about IBLEES. His movement is more successful. His followers are enjoying their life in Casinos, pubs and clubs. Is it critaria of true prophethood in Mirzaiet. Do you think that liking the white british ass is truth. Shame for your justification of Mirzaiet. You should know it that a euoropian christian are more afraid of Mahdi Sudani name than Adolf Hitler. And your excuse or blame of Shaheeds in Jehad against Britishers is shameful. Tomorrow you will say Holy Prophet Naoozbillah was not true prophet because due to him so many innocent Muslims were martyred in GHAZWA UHAD. And it seems to me that you think death in toilet with in mouth was the best death. Laanat upon Mirza Ghulam and his followers. Bye
Rumy <na>
PK - Sunday, February 01, 1998 at 00:36:02 (EST)
Ali. It is proper for you to have sympathy for this animal. and to purify yourselve so that thereby you may share to a degree the qualities. Do not write him "Murtadd" if he says himself "Muslim"just accept so, Allah who knows better. Disregard altogeather the desire of this animal head, Stop writing him.......Maryam
Maryam <abcde@fghij.com>
- Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 23:14:33 (EST)
BROTHER RUMY ZINDA-ABAD Brother RUMY, I love it the way You explained the Comparison between Mehdi Sudani and the Grand Liar Mirza AGHLAM KAZIB (British PITHU) and Paid agent of British Govt. I wish these QADIANIS (MURTADDS) could have something into their Brains to Understand that Logical Comparison. But That is the Curse of ALLAH (SWT) on this QADIANI CULT that Nothing Goes into there Brains But S.H.I.T., Just like their Fake prophet MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB, who esa Brain was so much full of S.H.I.T. that even it over flowed through HIS MOUTH. You Know that, I know that and even the QADIANI MURTADDS KNOW THAT.
Qadiani Buster <QB@BITCHY Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 22:38:27 (EST)
Cultist Ali Qadiani Why you are afraid of going to Saudi Consulate. You know it very well that these Saudis kick your bum if they find out that you are Qadiani cultist. They never allow you cultists in Holly land Bring the Visa form with you and I will wait for you in the cofee shop. Bring your Murabi with you as well. May be our discussion will provide you a chance to repent and follow the real Islam. And for Abdul Aziz Qadiani Mehdi Sudani kindeled the small fire of Freedom in north Africa and many movements sprungup in north Africa MiddleEast and Asia against all the occupied forces (British, Italians, Dutch). And eventually most of the muslims coutries got their freedom. Aziz Qadiani Sahib freedom does not come with ease. many people sacrifice look at the history of the world in last three hundred years. Imperialist killed many millions people. If the muslims would have followed the docterane of Mirza Al-Kazib Ghulam Qadiani. They would have still the faithful subjects of British, dutch or Italian Imperialism. What Mirza has created a cult nurtured by west till today. Mirza Tahir is trying to extend his cult for his own good and for his family's monopoly. May curse of Allah decend upon him all folds so this lair endsup in disgrace as well.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 21:15:47 (EST)
AHMADIYAT ZINDABAD
Ahadiyat Zindabad <Ahmadiyat Zindabad>
- Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 15:05:17 (EST)
ALI QADIANI MURTADD The explanation you gave about your face, these are the kind of faces (Mirzai Faces) I love to pee on. I did a number of times on MIRZA GHULAM'S Face. , a number of times on MIRZA TAHIR'S Face . I still have picture of MIRZA GHULAM in my bath room, every time i i Put his picture in my Toilet seat, That make my come out very easily. Because the Falls Right on MIRZA'S face.
Bagar Billa <BB@ MIRZA BITCH.CON>
UK - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 11:07:21 (EST)
ALI MURTADD Why You have Only S.H.I.T. in your brains. You have been told that YOU are a QADIANI, A MURTADD, AN IMPOSTER and Follower of a KAZIB (MANHOOS) who died in Utter disgrace (WITH S.H.I.T. in his Mouth) why you keep on beating the Drum that You are muslim? Just tell the SAUDI CONSULATE that you are QADIANI they will understand that You are A F.U.C.K.E.N. MURTADD and they will throw you out in a second, Insha Allah.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 11:02:08 (EST)
Rumy Thy name is lies and ignorance. The history of the Sudanese Mahdi you write is at least made up by you. I agree that he fought against the British and killed General Gordon but then came the British expeditionary force and he had to flee from Khartoum. He died shaortly afterward at his home and not in the battlefield. Also dear readers, look at what he achieved. Thousands of Muslims, almost unarmed against the British guns and cannons, died. The methods of Sudanese Mahdi were so cruel that even the Muslim ulema of India (non-Ahmadis, because Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib had not been ordained by Allah (SWA) as yet) said that the Sudanese Mahdis had hurt Islam more than help. However, that Mahdi did provide a proof of the truth if Quran. In Quran Allah (SWA) says that false prophets will not succeed. Dear readers, Sudanese Mahdi did not succeed. His movement died with him or shortly there-after. Mirza sahib is the true follower of Prophet Muhammad (SAS) and Allah's true messenger. His movement has been successful in every way. There are Ahmadis all over the world. They are doing the duties required of them by Allah (SWA), i.e. spreading Islam. It is time for all of you to reflect upon Quran and hadith in an unbiase mind. Wassalaam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 10:39:58 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, I just read your bottom posting now, Mr. NUT You want to Go to Barrie & asking someone how to get city of Montreal? ARe you nonesense? The Question Is simple & very simple and that Is " Is there a SUCH COLUMN WHERE YOU HAVE TO STATE SECT (shia sunni) Mr. this is what I am challenging you. If you are ready to rquired only this let me know before that I will be there. Again "TO SEE ONLY A SUCH COLUMN WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STATE THEIR SECT"
Ali <ali@canada.com>
Can - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 09:34:17 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, Ofcourse I am coming, just let me know the time?. And also tell me how I will be able to recognize you? Explain, where you want to stand? etc.
Ali <ali@>
Can - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 09:27:24 (EST)
Mirza Kazib the grand liar. Mirzai says they shouldn't be said Mirzai or Qadiani or Ghulami. They want they should be called Ahmadi. While full name of Mirza was Mirza Kazib Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. In this five-part name they have selected Ahmed. And they feel embarrassment in other part of his name. But they claim they are followers of that accursed Mirza. Now I introduce you another person who proclaimed himself the Mahdi. His full name was Muhammad Ahmed. He had born in 1844 at Sudan. In 1872 he proclaimed that he was Mahdi and made tour to of the Sudan fromDongola to Sennar from Blue Nile to Kordofan. And convinced himself of the people's disaffection and discontent with the established order. He preached Jihad against British. In 1881 he started Jihad against the British and other anti Islamic forces. He fought more then ten battles against British army and in all battles he defeated them. He taught a lesson to British and broken the crusade and in 1884 he succeeded to establish a rule of justice on the earth. In 1885 he killed the famous British governor General Charles George Gordon. In this way he killed the pig. Even today Britisher are afraid of his name. Now on the other hand there was a Mirza Kazib in India who proclaimed himself as Mahdi but all of his life licked the ass of governor general of India. Wrote many letters to queen where shown his and family's loyalty with crown. Mahdi Sudani started Jihad against British and enemy of Islam. Mirza Kazib preached against Jihad and started war against Muslim scholars and saints. He wrote the titles of His majesty and Her majesty for governor general and queen of Britain. While used the words like Shit eater, Khabees, son of bitches etc for Muslim scholars. Mahdi Sudani was died in battlefield as a head of Muslim State with sword in his hand. Mirza Kazib died in toilet as a victim of epidemic disease Cholera with in his mouth. The great grand son of Mahdi of Sudan. Sadiq al Mahdi established a Muslim government and cleaned the Sudan with British and American regime while the grand son of Mirza Kazib made his place in the lap of USA and requested her to provide protection. Now American pet pundit Mirza tahir talks barks loudly against Muslims sitting in the lap of Anti Muslims. Shame for Qadianis.
Rumy <nn@no.com>
pk - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 08:21:27 (EST)
Cultist Ali Qadiani - I will have no difficulty to recognize you. As you said you have this cult trade-mark embossed on your face (goaty cult style beard we called it in Punjab Buchi Dahri) No other sign is required this is more than enough. Let me know whether you are coming or not ?
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 07:55:35 (EST)
Cultist Ali Qadiani - Cut the crap. I never said that Mirza's Manhos name is ever printed on the blessed document for Umarah/Hajj. My point is that there is column of Muzhab other than Religion where you have to put Shia or Sunni. What you put over there ? Do you ever write Ahmadi/Qadiani ? Besides you always boast and beat the drum on the net that Ahmadiyyat is the true Islam. I only want you to tell them that you are a Qadiani/Ahmadi. do you allow Qadianis for Haj-Umarah ? and lets see what will be his answer ? I will wait for you in Saudi Consulate (in the visitors room) at 1-PM. Their timings are 10am to 2pm. I am 5-10 with thick Moustache and straight hair age around 30 and I am from Attock (If you are from Pakistan people of Attock are quite distinctly recogniseable). If you are too afraid to come alone bring a few Qadianis with you I don't mind. Anyway if you come alone I will not harm you, this is not the muslims way.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 07:43:35 (EST)
Ali Mirzai, My is 9.7 inch, Strong like iron. Me to have Mirzai cut pubics and very fond of Mirzai bitches. I have some intrest in mirzai gays too.See you there. If fateh will not come. I will come. I had satisfied Mirza Tahir last year.
Guru <no@mirza.com>
can - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 03:30:57 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, I will be waiting for you at YORK GATE MALL, 2nd floor, there is a coffee shop, (let me know the time)
Ali <ali@canada.com>
Can - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 00:10:28 (EST)
Ahmadi Muslim Brothers who live in Toronto if you like to visit this subscibed place to Fateh are most 'welcome. I just let you know about the location, take west from highway 400 to east, right after 2 traffic lights take left, you will be able to see YORK GATE MALL
Ali <ali@canada.com>
Can - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 00:06:51 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, if you are following me then I hope to see you on Monday Februar 02, 1998 at YORK GATE MALL on Jane & Finch. I already have given you my description, i will be keep following your posting to findout about you---Ali
Ali <ali@america.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:47:07 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, the issue is clear, Is there a such COLUMN? period, | no more no less. La kapoot, La pasta, that's it, end of the story |-----ALi
Ali <ali@canada.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:43:58 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, I say it agian, you might have difficulty to understand becuase i am having hard time to post my writings all once. Now this was the issue raised by you "there is a column on the hujj/ummra application where people have to state the sect of which they belong to" I challenge you in public to show me whether is there a such column ?----Ali
Ali <ali@canada.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:39:02 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, The issue of debate was (yours with mr. aziz) whether hujj/Umra application has a "COLUMN" where each and every Muslim have to state their sect from every corner of the world. That's it . This was the issue if you are forgetting, Now we want you to prove us whether is it true or not.
A. Waraich <awraich@pathcom.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:27:49 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd, OKAY do we believe in your interpretation and whether you believe in us. Thus Mr., clear your mind and stick on the point. I repeat your issue of debate (to Mr. Aziz) "every Hujj and Ummra application has a column where all Muslim of the world have to write their sect of Islam" Now my job is only this to prove you whether there is SUCH COLUMN OR NOT, That's it. If you are ready, SEE YOU ON MONDAY
Ali <ali@america.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:20:35 (EST)
...2....Fateh Murtadd, I am 5'12", I do wear glasses, blach frame, age 22, and I will be wearing blue and white line shirt and a dark blue jacket including some Yellow line. I do have French cut beard. Now, NO MORE QUESTIONS & ANSWERS, it's your turn now let me know your description before monday and then be there on Monday, (i leave time decission on you). In addition, let me know any example where a wahabi goes to apply for visit to Mecca and has to say, he is wahabi or ehle-hadith or ehle-sunna or shia or bralvi or deobundi and etc.? Are you nonsense? Mr. Nut we clearly that we are "Muslims" Now it is you or fellow like you who deny the fact, continue...
Ali <ali@america.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:18:13 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd If you are straight with the question then THA's IT, Let's Go ahead, I will be waiting for you at YORK GATE MALL right on Jane & Finch on Monday February 02 1998.
Ali <ali@america.com>
Can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 23:03:31 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd/ eh eh eh eh Since last two month you are boasting drum on this page that " Every Qadiani, Marzai, Ahmadi has to fill the sect column where they have to state whether they believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a liar or prophet" eh What happened now? Where is your claim? Nut man I am not talking about visa for umra or hujj for myself, my point was simple whether there is a "SUCH COLUMN" in the application for ummra & hujj OR NOT. continue......
Ali <ali@america.com>
can - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 22:42:12 (EST)
Let us see whether Dr. RAS allows me to make a comment
Ali <ali@america.com>
CAN - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 19:07:59 (EST)
I would like to see whether Dr. RAS blacklist me. Apparently, he is quite chickened out.
test <tryout@test.com>
UAE - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 19:06:33 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani Murtadd You have'nt answer my question about you Green Card Yet. That How the hell you got you green Card? Did you get it or Mirza Tahir Kazib is working on your case? May be that's why you are working on this web site very anxciously. Did MIRZA Tahir Kazib offer you any Qadiani (HOOR) yet?
Qadiani Buster <QB@Piggy Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 16:48:28 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI MURTADD What are U talking about Mirza Ka Londa. Brother Fateh Sher Know more than Your MADARI MASTER MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. I challenge you If you send your Mirza Tahir Murtadd-E-Azam for Hajj/Umra Visa, The Saudis Will throw him out. Because MURTADDS , PIGS and DOGS are not allowed in The Holy City Of MAKKAH. Thats why MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB never went for HAJJ, because ALLAH (SWT) did not want that "PIG" in his Home. and so is that NONE OF THE MUSLIM WANT THAT EITHER.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Bitchy Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 16:44:25 (EST)
Brother Ali. Assalamoalakum. Leave Mr. Fateh Sher alone. He stated something of which he did not have adequate information. Now he is stuck with that. He does not have enough courage to swallow his pride. He will change his incorrect information to 'stating in Saudi Consulate that Ahmadiyyat is true Islam'. Even if you do it he will come up with some other excuse not to admit the inaccuracy of his original statement. There are many positive things to be done why waste your time on this matter. Let Allah (SWA) take care of the liars. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu.aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 15:23:58 (EST)
The fact that Jesus(AS) died like anyother prophet is very clearly stated in Quran. (Qad khalat min qablihil rusul). Allah (SWA) addressing to muslim umma says that 'all messengers died before Prophet Muhammad (SAS) and if he dies or is killed then would you turn about towards disbelief. Now dear readers don't you believe that Jesus (AS) was a messenger and thus according to this ayah is dead. This was the undersatnding of the Sahab ikram also. When Prophet Muhammad (SAS) died they were very much sad and distressed. Hazrat Umar (RA) was extremely grieved and in his grief he took out his sword and declared that if any body says that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is dead I shall cut his head off. He stood there by the side of his master till Hazrat Abu Bakar Siddique (RA) came and looking at the situation realized that Umar (RA) was distressed and mistaken. He read the above quoted verse from Quran. Hearing this Hazrat umar simply crumbled and put his sword in sheath resignong to the death of the prophet. Now dear readers if any one says that Hazrat Issa (AS) was not dead but sitting in the heavens at the time of the Prophet's death then for sure some of them particularly Hazrat Umar (RA) would have told Hazrat Abu Bakar that the particular ayah did not support that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) was dead because as Hazrat Issa (AS) was not dead similarly Prophet Muhammad (SAS) was not dead. Dear readers if you believe in Quran then you have to agree with me that Hazrzt Issa (AS) is dead and his second coming will be in another person with similar spirit. Wasslam. May Allah be with you all.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu.aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 15:15:56 (EST)
The holy prophet prophesiesed that before the end of the 13th century on the muslim calender the promised messiah and mahdi would come.It is now 1418.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the only person who has claimed to be the messiah. The holy prophet also said that the messiah would be born in Ramadan.Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was. The holy prophet also said that during that particular month, there will be a lunur eclipse and an eclipse of the sun.Both these things happened. All of this leads down to the simple explanaition that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is the promised messiah and Mahdi.If you have any other good explanaition for all of these things then please post them. I would be interested to know. By the way, the eclipses have been scientificly proven to have happened. Also, I would like to say that you are very good at lying. All those names of books which you have put in your web-site don't seem to exist. I cannot find them in any book stall not are they in the list of books written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. You've lost this won i'm afraid. Eid Mubarak to all muslims
An ahmady <rather not say>
- Friday, January 30, 1998 at 11:20:44 (EST)
People, Listen up, I now know my fate.I have fallen ill. I am to die. I have become an ahmady. I wish all you the same my brothers. May God have merci on me
Rashid Ali <rasyed@emirates.net.>
UAE - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 11:12:46 (EST)
Harami Qadiani Londoo. You are doing a good job. Keep on barking and biting muslims. My boss(Aka Iblees)is very happy with your -ting on this site. Saloo do not forget to send your monthly payment to me. MTA (Maloon Transmission All-times) is running into financial trouble. Harami Londoo I am celeberating cult X-mas with few Qadiani bimbos. Oh Jee they are wild in bed. You can satisfy your lust with each other. Grand father SOB Mirza allowed us this act. Love for all Hatred for None.
Mirza Tahir Qadiani <Mirza@Ghulam.pigery.>
UK - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 07:18:55 (EST)
Cultist Ali Qadiani Just tell him(Saudi Counsaler) that Ahmadiyyat is true Islam(as you always boast on the net) and tell him that you are a Qadiani and lets see what will be his response to your Ummarah visa request ?
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 06:05:05 (EST)
Oh Buster Deya Dushmana Put Tu tay Apnay ABBAY da Dushman Nikleya. Tu Bhul Gaya kay "BUSTER" tera PYO hega. Agar zara vee shak hovay, tay APNI AMMAN nu Puch zara. Kay Kidhay naal mun kala kita teri AMMAN nay. Shakal tay teri Meray naal midi, par teray Janam certificate tay Kisay MURTADD da naam likhya. Teri maan nay tenu SACH nahin bolya. (QADIANI MURTADD JO HOI)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Com>
PK - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 20:03:02 (EST)
Dear Readers Non-Ahmads do not believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is the last prophet. For them the last prophet is Jesus of Bani Israil. If they don't agree with me then I challenge them to refute my argument given in the form of a quiz a few days ago. Only Ahmaids believe in 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <azizhsu.aol.com>
USA - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 17:05:01 (EST)
Buster & other harami creatures of WEB. You people are a shame for the human kind. Worst than animals. Manhoossest, Zaleelest, kameenest, Khabeesest living beings on the face of earth. Ahmadi Muslims (THE REAL) don't mind for your BUK BUK as you are fulfilling the prophesies of our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Just a reminder, Prophet predicted that the ULEMA (MULLAHS) of the time of MEHDI will be the worst/ dirtiest creatures of their time. It is great to see the prophesies of our beloved Muhammad (PBUH) comming true in front of our eyes. URFI TOO NA MANDAISH BAY GOGAYE RAQEEBAN ... AWAZ-E-SAGAN KUMM NAA KANAD RIZQ-E-GADA RAA.
Buster Daa Dushman <bb@hotmail.com>
PK - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 15:55:59 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd What simple sentence ?
Ali <saint patric>
Can - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 14:08:22 (EST)
Eid-Mubarak to Dr. Rashid and all muslims who follow the message of Allah conveyed by our beloved last Prophet(saw).
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 06:35:52 (EST)
Cultist Ali Qadiani - It seems to me that ghost of grand Kazib of Qadian Mirza Ghulam Qadiani is possessing you at this point in time. That's why gutter language is spilling from your mouth. No worries at all cultist . That's what happens with the cult followers after some time. Lakh Lanaat on Mirza (grand Kazib of Qadian) and Makruh faced Tahir who lead you in this state of mind. I told you the details of my getting the Visa from US consulate New York in 1991 I don't need your authentication for it. Tell me cultist you and other munafiqs boast and make lot of noise on the web and say Ahmadiyyat the true Islam. I will go with you to Saudi consulate if you are prepared to tell them this simple sentence and then ask for Visa. And lets see what will be their answer to your visa request for Ummrah. Lets make it plane and simple as that. I will bear the company of cultist like you for an hour or so. Besides why you are wasting money of Canadian govt. Go and parrot some twisted tales from Al-Kazib Tahir's headquarter in London and become a murabi ('Cha-ron ghee mein sir Karahi Mein ') in all respects, you know what I mean ( I know some of the dubious and perverted activities of murabis some of them are real ?)
Fateh Sher <qqqq@none>
Ca - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 06:30:36 (EST)
Brother Q.B. You made a mistake here. The QADIANIS are celebrating the release of "SHAITAN" after the month of Ramadan. So they do celebrate the release of their Master "IBLEES". I am sorry for this correction. OK, QADIANIS, Go ahead and enjoy, may "IBLEES" help you the way he did in the past, to your CHIEF QADIANI MURTADDS i.e. Mirza GHULAM, MIRZA BASHIR, MIRZA TAHIR etc etc.
Hurmat Khan <HURMAT@ALLAH-O-AKBAR>
UK - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 06:28:51 (EST)
Question For QADIANIS (MURTADDS) Muslims celebrate Eids, Christians Celebrate X-mas, Jews celebrate Hanukkah, What do the Qadianis (Murtadds) Celebrate? Answer By ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI (MURTADD) The QADIANIS they do not celebrate anything, because they are the Most Cursed people on this planet. Their MURTADD-E-AZAM died in utter Disgrace (WITH S..H..I..T..) in his mouth, the kind of death no body ever heared nobody ever seen, so their is no reason to celebrate anything for the QADIANIS (MURTADDS). Viewers This answer was provided by ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI, the Current "LONDA" of Mirza Tahir Kazib (The Current Most Disgraced and LAA'NATI) person on this Planet,
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 06:22:00 (EST)
TESTING
bbbbb <bb@hotmail.com>
CAN - Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 13:41:36 (EST)
Dear Readers Allah (SWA) says in Quran, (1). "We have always sent humans as prophets to warn people". (2). "Issa (AS) was a prophet to Bani Israel". (3). When Kafirs of Mecca Asked Prophet Muhammad (SAS) to ascend to the heaven and bring a book which they could see and feel God told the Prophet to say,"SubhanAllah. I am only a human and Rasul". Now it shows that the Prophet could not ascend to the heavens because he was a human. Dear readers because Issa (AS) was a human according to (1) above he could not ascend to heaven. Thus if you believe in Quran you have to agree that Issa(AS) did not go up to heaven where he is sitting now. Insha Allah, next time I will prove to you from Quran that Issa (AS) dies as our master Prophet Muhammad (SAS) died. For a detailed discussion of this topic please visit .alislam.org. Wassalam. May Allah have mercy upon all of you.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Wednesday, January 28, 1998 at 09:33:32 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Qadiani Murtadd What a DUMB Example. As Dumb as Your Liar, Kazib Master MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD. Looks like that you nothing BUT S.H.I.T.. in your brains, and that is the only thing that is gona come out of your mouth too (JUST LIKE MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB) when you gona DIE (IN DISGRACE) just Like MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shity Mirza.Com>
PK - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 20:36:06 (EST)
This is a great website.
Sarah <Asmaa555@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 16:19:03 (EST)
Dear Readers The answer to my Quiz is Mr. Jaggan because when the University was disbanded he was the V.C. and at that time Mr. Malik was dead. Now let us use it to interpret the word 'Khatamannabiyyeen'. We all agree that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) passed away 1400 years ago. If Issa (AS) descends from heaven now and then according to what non-Ahmadis say he will govern this earth till the day of judgement then dear readers he is the last prophet. So according to non-Ahmadis' logic Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is not the last prophet. Now let us look at the interpretation of Ahmadis (also the interpretation of Maulana Rum, Mualan Nanautvi, Ibne Arabi, Shah WaliUllah Muhaddis Delhvi and many others visit . alislam.org for other names). We say that 'khatamannabiyyeen' means the last law bearing prophet. Well since the Messiah promised to the ummah of Hazrat Muhammad (SAS) is to follow him (Muhammad SAS) he will bring no new law. See how simple it is. Now you can easily say that Prophet Muhammad (SAS) is khatamannabiyyeen. Wassalam. May Allah be with you all.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 09:30:34 (EST)
ALI QADIANI MURTADD You know that, Your Mirza Kazib Knows that and the Whole Muslim UMMAH knows that you "QADIANIS" are out of the fold of ISLAM, The word "MURTADD" is ment to be and made for specifically for "QADIANIS" and "MIRZAIS", and followers of a LIAR, A KAZIB and the MOST CURSED person Like MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB, Like YOU. So why You are being so HARD HEADED Like MIRZA KAZIB? Is that into your genes you you are trying to show MIRZA TAHIR ( MURTADD-E-AZAM) your Loyalty? as I have explained you that Just Like a PIG IS A PIG, the same way a "QADIANI" is a "MURTADD" . No doubt about that. So just learn how to face the fact. Dont show the world that your head is FULL OF S..H..I..T.. just like MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB and his AULAAD. YOU "QADIANIS" are MURTADDS, YOU WILL REMAIN MURTADDS, and YOU WILL DIE as MURTADDS, Just Like Mirza Aghlam Kazib (WITH S.H.I.T. In your mouth)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 09:06:35 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd We call ourselves Ahmadi Muslims, you call us Murtadd, kafir, kazib Mirzai, Qadiani. YOU call yourself Muslim (no idea 1 in 72 eh) and we call you Murtadd what is wrong with that ? It is so simple if you have right to call anyone you like to, WHY NOT WE?
Ali <@>
Can - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 08:00:23 (EST)
Fateh Murtadd why to wait for July? When this debate (on visa application) was started at first place between you & Mr. Aziz. I contacted Arabian Consulate and brought these following forms which I posses even at this moment Hujj/Umra application for Canadian citizens, Hujj/Umra application for Pakistani citizen but legal resident of Canada and the form for women to prove their Mahram from any mosque (women if going with men/man has to proof whether the person is husband, father, brother etc). Therefore, I invite you once again let's decide time, date and place to see and to show you what is the truth. Now second question regarding offer of transportation, I am very happy to read that you own a vehicle.(and I do not say you got it by proving yourself a victim of Pakistani Mullans |||||) Anyhow never mind | I guess you misunderstood from beginning, Mr. I do not own any such car, neither I ever claimed, I even can not afford any car, I already owe #50000 student loan to federal and provincial Government to pay back my tuition fee. Mr. I am a student of Seneca College (I hope u know where it exists) YES | I do have a car but it is my brother in-law's. And also yes I do make that much money to afford at least one trip to Arabian consulate and to pay for Gas.
Ali <@>
Can - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 07:47:02 (EST)
GOOD NEWS FOR Ali QADIANI, ABDULAZIZ QADIANI, Usman QADIANI, WARAICH QADIANI , and ANUS QADIANI (All The MURTADDS); In a recent statement from Qadiani Headquarter, Mirza Tahir Kazib wrote in His WILL that ON HIS (MIRZ'S) miserable death, Whatever the S..H..I..T.. will come out of his (MIRZA'S) mouth, will be equally distributed among all the above mentioned QADIANIS (MURTADDS) That reward is being given to all these MURTADDS for their unparalleled devotions and sincerity of all these MURTADDS towards Mirza Tahir Kazib. It is said that This S..H..I..T.. will bring lots of good fortune and blessing for all these QADIANI MURTADDS. This Statement from Mirza Tahir has made some other "Murabbis" very upset and dishearted. Because they been with Mirza Tahir For a Long time and they have already spent large amout of their time and money for Mirza, but they are being deprived of this S..H..I..T..Y.. blessing, they dont know why?........ Now the Qadiani Cult community think that all these Murtadds (i.e Ali Murtadd, Abdul Aziz Murtadd, Waraich Murtadd, Anus Murtadd, and Osman Murtadd) are very blessed and privilged Murtadds among the Qadiani Cult.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 06:01:30 (EST)
ALI QADIANI MURTADD Now I know how you got your car.You are social security recepient, and boasting about the CAR, THE Chips , the Cigaretts, the Booze etc etc. But On the "QADIANI" record you have mentioned the You have "NIGHT" business and "QADIANI ESCORTS" business. But for the business you are using MIRZA TAHIR'S NAME. I believe. Shame On You QADIANI MURTADDS. Any How Ali Qadiani Murtadd, That is a very good business for the Qadiani Community, and I heared that "QADIANIs" excel in this "Night & Escort" business. By the Way are you giving 10% to Mirza Tahir or you are cheating on him?
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 05:35:41 (EST)
Ali Qadiani and Abdul-Aziz Qadiani The full name of Mirza was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. Your cult title is Ahmadiyyat . If we give you the title of Mirzai or Qadiani or Ghulami's. It is all driven from Al-Kazib's name. Why you get offended. You should be proud of these names. Title of our(muslims) deen is Isalm and is not after any personality but it came from Allah(swt). Whatever bad words or language you used for me personally I don't care because I know very well that your cult inventor was a big foul mouthed person. So a follower of this Grand Kazib of Qadian must follow the sunnah of his fake prophet. Ali Qadiani you are shallow person boasting about your car (have you got it by collecting the social security as refugee). Alhumdo-lillah I have my own transportation. So I don't need your help and neither I have desire to see you. Because you guys have the same twisted tales for parroting which Al-Kazib Tahir pour into your mind day-in and day-out. I checked from Saudi consulate and they are not entertaining any application for Ummrah or Hajj till july 98. I asked for the form but they said contact us at the beginning of July.
Fateh Sher <n.r>
Ca - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 04:12:35 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD The story you are telling has no beginning and no end. The Only thing I can tell you from your story is that "Mr. Malik" died in a Normal and Graceful way, But YOUR MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB died in a very disgraceful and miserable way (WITH S..H..I..T.. IN HIS MOUTH), no other human being had such a miserable and disgusting death. SHAME and LAANAT ON MIRZA and UPON HIS FOLLOWERS LIKE YOU, who have nothing but S..H..I..T.. in their brains. GOT IT ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD. Go and tell that to your Kazib Qadiani Pandat "MIRZA TAHIR BITCH".
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 19:45:17 (EST)
A Quiz There was a university in a country Mankovia. In 1979 the president of the country appointed Mr. Jaggan as its vice chancellor (V.C.) of the university. Mr Jaggan performed as V.C. till 1985 when he was recalled by the President for some other duties in 1985. Mr. Malik was then appointed as the V.C. and continued till died in 1994. The President of the country then called back Mr. Jagan and appointed him V.C. of the University. Mr Jagan continued till the end of 1997 when the President decided to disband the Unversity for ever. Who is the last Vice Chancellor of the the University? (Dear Folks apply this reasoning to KHATAMANNABIYYEEN'). Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 18:57:56 (EST)
Ali Qadiani Murtadd The money you are gona spend on Chips, Cigaretts, Gas and Gas etc. Where did you get this money from? Stipend from MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB or Mirza Tahir Kazib paid you for your BED ROOM Services or You have some other Night Job? Any How your money is (The way you made it) is HARAM for Brother Fateh Sher.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 15:59:10 (EST)
AbdulAziz Murtadd Pakistan is the Country where your mother fooled around with some one and you are a by-product of your mother and that absolute SOB, who brought into this world. Now you are showing your real QADIANI (MURTADD) face by cursing Pakistan. Any how that is your Real QADIANI teachings from MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD-E-AZAM. This reflects that how much hatred you (MIRZAI MURTADDS) have against the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 15:54:37 (EST)
AbdulAziz Murtadd Pakistan is the Country where your mother fooled around with some one and you are a by-product of your mother and that absolute SOB, who brought into this world. Now you are showing your real QADIANI (MURTADD) face by cursing Pakistan. Any how that is your Real QADIANI teachings from MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD-E-AZAM. This reflects that how much hatred you (MIRZAI MURTADDS) have against the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 15:53:47 (EST)
AbdulAziz Murtadd Pakistan is the Country where your mother fooled around with some one and you are a by-product of your mother and that absolute SOB, who brought into this world. Now you are showing your real QADIANI (MURTADD) face by cursing Pakistan. Any how that is your Real QADIANI teachings from MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD-E-AZAM. This reflects that how much hatred you (MIRZAI MURTADDS) have against the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 15:53:03 (EST)
Fateh Murtaddh What is the matter with you? I told you earlier we both go to Arabian consulate in Toronto and see what is the truth. Now whether you do not live in Toronto or you are just ignorant about the information of Visa application. Mr. I live in Toronto (city of pickering) the nearest intersection is Port union and Sheppard. I have my own transportation, I will pay for the Gas and oil and a pack of cigarette or chips, let's check it out. Ali
Ali <@>
Can - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 12:58:42 (EST)
Mr. Rashid Ali - regarding your comments on the Mubahillah challenge- it is to be noted that according to Islam- a Mubahillah is a prayer duel between two "believing" parties to ask Allah to decide who is the truthful and who is the liar. It must be openly accepted by the parties involved. It therefore follows that if you are a follower of Iblis as you claim then your so-called acceptance of Mubahillah with or without conditions of going to London, face to face meetings etc. is a joke. As a follower of Iblis you can not even become a party to a Mubahillah. One can not be a servant of Iblis and The Almighty Allah at the same time. There can be no Mubahillah between a follower of Allah and a follower of Iblis| In any case the fate of all liars will ultimately be decided by The Almighty Allah in His own time and way.
Ahmadi, T.A. <none>
USA - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 10:15:43 (EST)
Mr. Fateh Sher Now you know how it hurts to be called a murtadd by others. You and your friends practised calling Ahmadies as Mirzais, Qadianis, murtadds. Do you think you are any more human than they. You better look at how you address Ahmadis otherwise according to Quranic teachings Ahmadis have the right to pay you in the same coin.(2) You think that singing the tale of Yusuf Zuleikha on a regular basis is the way to spread Islam. Great. Then how come the Muslims never changed themselves by listening to the sexually explicit story written by illiterate mullah for the consumption of their Islamically illiterate followers. (3) You praise Dr. Rashid for freedom of speech. You don't know the diting he does in Ahmadis comments. He takes out words, and sometime erases their comments entirely and sometimes does not even post their comments. Also what editing did I request him only the language because non-Muslim visitors would consider Islam a religion of dirty language. Tell me what is wrong with that. Does Islam allow to use filthylanguage against opponents? Your indifference to my request shows your love for Islam. (4). Regarding Umra visa Mr. Fateh Sher be honest. Or put the visa apllication form on this web site. It will show your integrity. (5). You say that Muslims fought against the British in various places in India. I agree with you. All I asked you was to give me the names of the known Muslim ulema who preached Jehad against the British during the period 1870-1908, the period of Mirza Sahib's preching life. I gave you names of well known ulema who advised 'desisting from Jehad' against the British. Now either you know more Islam and the political situation prevailing at that time in India or those ulema. Tell me if you think those ulema were cowards or liars or misguided or ignorant and how you claim yourself to be a better aalim or informed person. (By the way your degree and honesty of information is vouchshafed by the example of Visa application form). (6). You hear speeches of Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. I congratulate you. If you do not find them insightful and leading you to God then I suggest you not to give up for some more time. After all some Kafirs of Mecca used to say the same things about the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (SAS). But many found the right path later. May God show you the right path. Wassalam.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 09:51:31 (EST)
Mr. Nadim Farooqi To your comments please add to "Greetings fron Pakistan, the most anti Qadiani country" listed as the most corrupt country in the world' Thanks
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 09:30:00 (EST)
HELLO MUSLIMS HAPPY EID GREETINGS. OK FROM ANTI QADIANI COUNTRY PAKISTAN.
Nadeem A. Farooqi <u know>
PAK - Monday, January 26, 1998 at 01:17:05 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani At last you jumped into Mirza's shoes to use derogatory language against me and brother Rumi. No surprise at all. But atleast you pretend that you believe that Hazart Yousaf (Pbuh) was Allah's prophet then the way you used his(pbuh) name and taunted about his(pbuh) story reflects the true qadiani colours. This story is not invention of any mullah or Kazib like Mirza It is a story given in the Quran to give us the insight about how this great Prophet (pbuh) lived and spread the grace of his(pbuh) Lord there are many lessons which Quran draws from this story. Don't dare to taunt and disrespectful (you agitative follower of Kazibs of Qadian and London). Many a time your Qadiani lot used so abusive language against Brother Rashid and other muslims where were you at that time? Brother Rashid right on top of this guest book requested to all visitors to use the decent language but he at the same time left the guestbook non-moderated keeping in mind the freedom of speech. In result he got many abusive and threatening messages from Qadiani cult followers. Look at all of Qadiani Guestbooks these are fully moderated and full of praises by qadianis. I appreciate brother Rashid for his brave heart and expect from visitors of this guestbook to keep themselves in the norm of civilised language. As for as the Ummarah Visa is concerned I got the Visa from NewYork (in 1991) not on a Pakistani passport and they asked about the sect and a certificate from Islamic centre Very recently one of my friend went from Sydney Australia also been asked for the same things. Now lets get back to Brits. Muslims of India fought against Brits in 1857 (though lost) and thousands laid their lives at that time traitors like Mirza's father and other Punjabi feudal were providing men and horses to Brits (which your pretender Mirza was always proud of… see his letters to Brits). And from 1857 onwards there were lot of resistance put by Muslims in NWFP, Sind and Baluchistan. Besides all this time muslims were launching their political struggles from different platforms in central India. But at the same time among muslims there were todies who whole heartedly supported Brits (mostly feudal) Mirza Kazib was one of them. But atleast none of them claimed prophethood except Mirza. This shameless individual surpassed all the limits. I have heard Mirza Tahir Speeches many a time and he is fantastic to put twist in every sentence. And don't worry Muslims are spreading Word of Allah all around the world. There are Islamic centres in all the big cities of Europe North America and Australia and doing the work of Dawah. Even according to biased western media Islam is the fastest growing religion in the west. What opposition this fat man (Tahir Qadini ) is putting to Muslim regimes (with the exception of Pakistan) except running a cult TV where his same stupid speech get repeated four times a day which is only watched by die-hard Qadianis( rest of them enjoy the cable channels). He is sitting in London having jolly good time by the money extorted from you fellows. I will not say anything about the sexual perversions of Al-Kazib Tahir and his father. Lahories compiled lot of details about it. Mirza Ghulam Kazib's perversions are given in his own books.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 22:27:30 (EST)
Mr.Rumy Murtadd I gave you examples of Muslim ulema of thee time the Promised Messiah was alive. Most of those ulema were of the same opinion as the Promised Messiah (AS). Are you telling me that you know more Islam than those ulema. Are you telling me that you know more Islam than those ulema? If it is so then could you tell me where those ulema made mistakes? Or do you think they were liars? Tell me what you think about them. Also do you know more Islam than the ulema of other times such as between the 1st Hijri and the 14 th century Hijri? The fact is Mr. Rumy that you have created an Islam for yourself, a new Islam unknwn to Prophet Muhammad (SAS). The proof is the extreme helplessness of the Muslim world in every area. Were you following the true Islam then according to Quran you would have been blessed with might, glory and bliss. Look around the whole Muslim world lacks respecr, nay self-respect. Is this the Islam of Prophet Muhammad(AS). Open up your eyes and ears. Follow the Messiah of the time. The Prohet very clearly said that the only he would bring glory to Islam. You do what you want. Follow the Jews or the Christians. Ultimately you will come to the right path.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 20:18:24 (EST)
AbdulazizQadiani| Our point of view is that All kind of Prophets were messenger of Almighty ALLAH. Therefore they were enemies of those who were the enemy of Allah. But Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani (La'anat of Allah upon him) was the agent of British who are the enemy of Islam (Allah). Inotherwords he was the messenger of Satan. In defence you are misquoting the others scholars of his age. They (those scholars) didn't claim prophethood. Therefore their deeds are not compareable with that Murtad who claimed false prophethood. If you will say that those Moulvis were also British agent and yousucceeded to prove it does mean that Mirza Kazib was true. A wrong doer could be a leader but can,t be a Prophet. This is against the first law of Prophethood to be agent of Non Allah.And don't be upset.
Rumy <na>
pk - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 17:23:41 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD Your writing tells that you are getting very frustrated. Because the money that is being paid to you by Mirza Tahir Kazib, is getting you no where. What about your Green Card? Did you get it Yet or Mirza Tahir is still working on that? You are telling us that a Kazib, a Liar and an agent Of Britts has a Knowledge of Our "HOLY QURAN". The One who belong to the Chain of that Disgraced person (Mirza AGHLAM KAZIB) who died in the most disgraceful way (WITH S...H.....I...T...) in his mouth. Is that the way a "Mujaddad" or a "Prophet " is supposed to die. Look at the "MANHOOS" face of your "Kazib Master "Mirza Tahir", you call him a Scholar? Of Course, Scholar of "SHAITANISM" .
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shity Mirzais.Con>
PK - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 10:32:59 (EST)
Mr. Rumi Murtadd and Mr. Fateh Sher Murtadd Your responses to my request to ask Mr. Rashid to make this site decent and worthy of dignity on the part of non-Muslims indicates how much you love Islam. Even though I do not confirm to your way of thinking tell me what is wrong with my request? The ulema I referred to in my comment were not Tom Dick and Harry types. Ask Ahle hadith what status Maulana Batalvi had and ask sunnis what thay think about Syed Ahmad Brelvi (A mujaddid). Could you please give the names of those ulema who preached Jehad against the British during the period 1870 to 1910, i.e the period during which Mirza Sahib was defending Islam against Christians? Mr. Fateh Sher I know that you are used to expressing opinion on topics of which you have no knowledge. You have not answered my previous questions regarding visa application for Hajj and the Ahmadis. Were you lying at that time or ignorant of facts. Also you people do not know the mettle of Mirza Tahir Ahmad. He is a scholar with insight into Quran and Hadith. Your maulvis do not know an iota of Quran as compared with him. I used to listen to the khutbas of non-Ahmadi maulvis when I was in your shoes. They were telling stories of Yusuf and Zuleikha. Please listen to him sometime with an open mind. Also he has courage you cannot imagine. Single handedly he stands against all the might of you corrupt governments and Islamically illiterate mullahs. God is with him and you people cannot do anything except talk and talk and wag your tail in front of Jews and Christians, nay Hindus too. He has been instrumental in spreading Islam's message in all corners of the world. Could you tell me what your mullah have done. Talk is cheap just mention some deeds also. Please listen to God and don't try to stand up against Ahmadiyyat. I tell you. You will die, you children will die and you will not be able to stop the spread of Ahmadiyyat because it is true Islam and Allah and His Prophet are with us. What have you got? People like Buster spreading all over the world on a page you have designated for Islam (your kind of Islam). Open your eyes and ears for when Allah's hand strikes you will have no place to run.
abdul aziz <no>
USA - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 09:36:12 (EST)
Mr. Rumi Murtadd and Mr. Fateh Sher Murtadd Your responses to my request to ask Mr. Rashid to make this site decent and worthy of dignity on the part of non-Muslims indicates how much you love Islam. Even though I do not confirm to your way of thinking tell me what is wrong with my request? The ulema I referred to in my comment were not Tom Dick and Harry types. Ask Ahle hadith what status Maulana Batalvi had and ask sunnis what thay think about Syed Ahmad Brelvi (A mujaddid). Could you please give the names of those ulema who preached Jehad against the British during the period 1870 to 1910, i.e the period during which Mirza Sahib was defending Islam against Christians? Mr. Fateh Sher I know that you are used to expressing opinion on topics of which you have no knowledge. You have not answered my previous questions regarding visa application for Hajj and the Ahmadis. Were you lying at that time or ignorant of facts. Also you people do not know the mettle of Mirza Tahir Ahmad. He is a scholar with insight into Quran and Hadith. Your maulvis do not know an iota of Quran as compared with him. I used to listen to the khutbas of non-Ahmadi maulvis when I was in your shoes. They were telling stories of Yusuf and Zuleikha. Please listen to him sometime with an open mind. Also he has courage you cannot imagine. Single handedly he stands against all the might of you corrupt governments and Islamically illiterate mullahs. God is with him and you people cannot do anything except talk and talk and wag your tail in front of Jews and Christians, nay Hindus too. He has been instrumental in spreading Islam's message in all corners of the world. Could you tell me what your mullah have done. Talk is cheap just mention some deeds also. Please listen to God and don't try to stand up against Ahmadiyyat. I tell you. You will die, you children will die and you will not be able to stop the spread of Ahmadiyyat because it is true Islam and Allah and His Prophet are with us. What have you got? People like Buster spreading all over the world on a page you have designated for Islam (your kind of Islam). Open your eyes and ears for when Allah's hand strikes you will have no place to run.
abdul aziz <no>
USA - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 09:36:01 (EST)
AbdulAziz Qadiani Murtadd On one side all you QADIANI (Murtadds) curse out the Mislim Ummah, especially Look at the language of Qadiani Cult against Brother Rashid, Brother Rumy, Brother Fateh Sher etc etc and on the other side you complain about My Language? I know that all the Qadiani Murtadds including Chief Qadini OPandat Mirza Tahir Kazib have Night mares when they hear the name "Qadiani Buster". But You think that whatever the trash come out of Mirza Tahir's Mouth against Muslim Ummah is perfactly ligit and OK. Why? Because he is paid by the Brits to do so? and because He (Mirza Tahir Kazib) has to make "Brainless & Lost people like you" laugh, like a clown. Wake up Abdul aziz Murtadd. Smell the Coffee. Repent from this non sense before you die in a miserable and shameful way, Just Like Mirza GHULAM KAZIB (With in HIS MOUTH).
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 07:04:22 (EST)
Abdul-Aziz Qadiani - You are protesting to Brother Rashid for Mr. Buster's posting. Have you ever protested to Pontiff maximus (al-kazib Tahir) for his cursing and praying doom for muslims ? Have you ever protested to him that he should edit the adult themes and nudity from the books of Mirza (the grand kazib of Qadian)? Where is your conscience regarding to these facts. And you are quotating some maulvis who gave favourable remarks for brits why didn't your fake prophet followed the example of thousands of muslim scholars who opposed brits and some laid down their lives and others did bear extreme hardships like prison.But He was too busy praising the brits and churning the money out the pockets of his illitrate and delusioned followers. Curse of Allah be upon Mirza who mislead the ignorant people and brought doom to their lives hereafter. Now his grandson is deceiving the world with deceptive slogans like 'Love for all hatred for none'.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Sunday, January 25, 1998 at 00:02:17 (EST)
AzizQadiani| What a nonsense exuses you have? O | Qadiani dumm you don't know Mirza Kazib had claimed Prophethood and Messiahhood and non of Moulvis of any age claimed this nonsense. Do you think Mirza was not more than those Moulvis whose refference you are quotong? Shame for you and La'anat upon Mirza Kazib Ghulam.
Rumy <na>
pk - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 21:04:04 (EST)
Non-Ahmadis accuse Mirza Sahib for asking Muslims not to take up arms against the British Govt of that time. Here are some examples from the opponents of Mirza Sahib. (1)Maulvi Muhammad Hussain of Batala writes,"It is not permissible for Muslim subjects to fight, or to help with men and money those who fight against a government, whether Christian, or Jewish, or of some other faith, under whom the Muslims carry out their religious duties and obligations freely. For the Muslims of India it is forbidden to oppose or rebel against the British Governmen" (Ishatus Sunnah, Vol VI, No. 10). He further writes "Brethre, this is not the time of the sword; (2). Hazrat Syed Ahmad Brelvi wrote,"Our true purpose is the propagaation of the unity of God and the revival of the practice of the Chief of the Prophets, and that we carry ut without hinderance in this country. Then why should we fight the British Governmentand shed the blood of both sides contrary to the principles of our religion". (3). Dear readers these two were recognized leaders of Muslims. For many more such writings please visit the site .alislam.org. Thank you.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 19:36:14 (EST)
Non-Ahmadis accuse Mirza Sahib for asking Muslims not to take up arms against the British Govt of that time. Here are some examples from the opponents of Mirza Sahib. (1)Maulvi Muhammad Hussain of Batala writes,"It is not permissible for Muslim subjects to fight, or to help with men and money those who fight against a government, whether Christian, or Jewish, or of some other faith, under whom the Muslims carry out their religious duties and obligations freely. For the Muslims of India it is forbidden to oppose or rebel against the British Governmen" (Ishatus Sunnah, Vol VI, No. 10). He further writes "Brethre, this is not the time of the sword; (2). Hazrat Syed Ahmad Brelvi wrote,"Our true purpose is the propagaation of the unity of God and the revival of the practice of the Chief of the Prophets, and that we carry ut without hinderance in this country. Then why should we fight the British Governmentand shed the blood of both sides contrary to the principles of our religion". (3). Dear readers these two were recognized leaders of Muslims. For many more such writings please visit the site .alislam.org. Thank you.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 19:36:01 (EST)
Non-Ahmadis accuse Mirza Sahib for asking Muslims not to take up arms against the British Govt of that time. Here are some examples from the opponents of Mirza Sahib. (1)Maulvi Muhammad Hussain of Batala writes,"It is not permissible for Muslim subjects to fight, or to help with men and money those who fight against a government, whether Christian, or Jewish, or of some other faith, under whom the Muslims carry out their religious duties and obligations freely. For the Muslims of India it is forbidden to oppose or rebel against the British Governmen" (Ishatus Sunnah, Vol VI, No. 10). He further writes "Brethre, this is not the time of the sword; (2). Hazrat Syed Ahmad Brelvi wrote,"Our true purpose is the propagaation of the unity of God and the revival of the practice of the Chief of the Prophets, and that we carry ut without hinderance in this country. Then why should we fight the British Governmentand shed the blood of both sides contrary to the principles of our religion". (3). Dear readers these two were recognized leaders of Muslims. For many more such writings please visit the site .alislam.org. Thank you.
Abdul Aziz <n.o.>
USA - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 19:35:52 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI MURTADD Brother Rashid Dont have to tell the people that The QADIANIAT is against the Islam , The People who have BRAINS, Have Common Sense and Do Understand the Logic, Who have Love of Mohammad (SAW) into their Hearts and Souls, They already know that MIRZA GHULAM WAS A LIAR, AN IMPOSTER, A MURTAD, and His followers are the Murtadds and Out of the Fold of ISLAM. Now you talk about the Impression, What about the IMPRESSION they get when they see MIRZA TAHIR'S MANHOOS face on the Screen, and when they hear the Lies coming out of his Mouth, and when they HEAR THE REAL STORY OF MISERABLE DEATH OF MIRZA GHULAM (AGHLAM) KAZIB, DEATH WITH IN HIS MOUTH, What kind of Impression would they get? May ALLAH (SWT) save all the MUSLIM UMMAH from The QADIANI FITNAH and Keep the Miserable Death Like MIRZA GHULAM for all the Qadianis Like You, Waraich, Anus Qadiani, and Chief QADIANI PANDAT MIRZA TAHIR (AMEN)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 15:21:21 (EST)
Dear Readers According to Dr. Rashid, the owner of this Guest Book, the objective of this page is to disseminate information about Ahmadiyyat and show that it is against Islam. Since he uses the world Islam in his web address there have to be a number of non-Muslim visitors who want to have information about Islam and use various search engines to locate such sites on the internet. Imagine what impression they get when they read comments of the so-called 'Qadiani Buster'. I protest to Dr. Rashid for permitting this gentleman to post his comments full of dirty language. These comments make this site look like an 'adult' of 'pornographic' source of information. I request all visitors to this page to join me in asking Dr. Rashid to edit the comments of 'Qadiani Buster's writings for the language
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 12:12:42 (EST)
A. Waraich Qadiani (MURTADD) Watch your language Yo Murtadd Waraich. You should have written i.e. Allegations raised by "MUSLIMS", not non-ahmadies, also Just Call yourself "QADIANIS" , because "AHMED" was neme Given To Our Beloved Prophet by HIS Mother Side, and You (QADIANIS) have nothing to do with Our Beloved Prophet (SAW), except denounse him (MAY CURSE OF ALLAH BE UPON ALL OF YOU MURTADDS and UPON YOUR CHIEF PANDAT MIRZA TAHIR)
Qadiani Buster <QB@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 12:12:19 (EST)
Mr. Rashid why have you delete my writing in response to different alegations raised by non-ahmadis.
A. waraich <*****>
Can - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 09:33:01 (EST)
Mr.Qadiani Muslim Buster first of all do not get mad over this poor, your boss did claim to be a "prophet of iblees" on page (see articles) where he declared himself that iblees has told him to stand against this(nouzubillah) liar and apostle prophet mirza ghulam ahmad of qadian, and he declares that he is THE PROPHET OF IBLEES" (original wording) secondly, the response has given to ghulam ali in full detail by me and mr aziz and might be some other writers but this Bud has ball in his hand, he deltes --Ali
Ali <@>
Can - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 09:30:52 (EST)
Mr.Qadiani Muslim Buster first of all do not get mad over this poor, your boss has a "prophet of iblees" on page (see articles) where he declared himself that iblees has told him to stand against this(nouzubillah) liar and apostal prophet mirza ghulam ahmad of qadian. secondly, the response has given to ghulam ali in full detail by me and mr aziz and might be some other writers but this Bud has ball in his hand, he deltes --Ali
Ali <@>
Can - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 09:25:22 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ QADIANI (MURTADD) YOU are a BIG LIAR. You do not have BALLS to answer Brother GHULASM ALI and now you are Blaming Br. Rashid. Looks like that You Have MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S BLOOD in your body. I believe even your Chief Pandat Mirza Tahir Kazib cannot answer Brother Ghulam Ali. Because HE (MiRZA TAHIR) do not have BALLS Either (You Know then What Else Could HE HAVE)
Qadiani Buster <Q.B@shity Mirza.con>
PK - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 06:52:48 (EST)
Brother Ghulam Ali Assalam-O-Alaikum Job Well done. I liked the information you gave about these QADIANI "MURTADDS" and the Grand MURTADD "MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB". If these QADIANIS have a little bit of sjhame, after reading your article they (QADIANIS) should dip their noses into "YOUR" PEE and then into "MY PEE" too. Mau ALLAH(SWT) bless you and Brother Fateh Sher and Brother RUMY and also Brother RASID. Insha Allah.
QB <Q.B.@Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 06:11:00 (EST)
ALI QADIANI MURTADD You are confused again (The QADIANI WAY) Just like your Grand master Mirza Aghlam Kazib Used to Be. MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB was not only a prophet of IBLEES Himself bet also a "LONDA" of IBLEES. Just Look at his (MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S) own writing when he Said that HE (MIRZA) used to have MENSES. Actually it was a cover up. As a matter of fact IBLEES USED TO SCREW HIM (MIRZA) up, to Inject SATANIC knowledge into MIRZA through HIS (MIRZA'S) ass. When MIRZA BLEED, He named it MIRZA'S MENSES. and MIRZA THEN got so much used to ANAL SEX that when SHAITAN "IBLEES" was not there the "Hakim NOOR-UD-DIN" used to do this Job. so tell me who was the prophet of IBLEES. and Ali Qadiani Murtadd, Also I did some research about your BIRTH events, I wasreally amazed, that How did your mother GOOFED with someone Like ME, but you were named after your fake father. If You want I can write a detailed STORY about your BIRTH EVENTS and the HISTORY OF YOUR MAMA'S Goofing around. Tell me whenever You are ready.
Qadiani Buster <Q.B.@Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 05:57:37 (EST)
Good Articles from Brother Rumi and Ghulam Ali I was recently reading the book which is sitting in one the qadiani web site 'Massieh Hindostan main'(Jesus in India). When he wrote this book, at that time some of his muslim opponents raised the question that Hazart Mehdi's appearence and efforts will bring fall of the evil forces who suppose to dominate the world at that time. Mirza (Grand Kazib of Qadian) sensing that this might put a little bit suspicion in the mind of his british masters. He surpased all bounds and used words like Bllody Masseih and Bloody Mehdi to clear the minds of his masters by saying that Mehdi has nothing to do with struggles against brits. The fake reasearch which Mirza and his co-inventer of Qadianism (Maulvi Nurruddin) had concocted about Jesus so-called Migration to India, is so apppaling and half-baked that a true researcher and archiologist can only cry after reading it.
Fateh Sher <n.r.>
Ca - Saturday, January 24, 1998 at 00:04:26 (EST)
Mr. Prophet of Iblees (oh sorry eh well i guess that's what u claimed) anywya, why did u delet my posting is response to Ghulam Ali at 1853
Ali <@>
Can - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 21:40:03 (EST)
AbdulAziz Murtadd It is amazing that how you judge other people's qualifications. By the way What kind of "DOCTRATE" do you have? I know that the Thesis you wrote had a topic "MISERABLE DEATH OF MIRZA AGHLAM KAZIB" & "WHY DID THE CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH". Abdul Aziz (Ph.D. In Mirzayology), I think Brother RUMY has more qualifications than your QADIANI PANDAT "Mirza Tahir Kazib". Do You Wana See Brother RUMY'S "BIG DIPLOMA" Come I will show you. But Dont try to touch it.
Qadiani Buster <Q.B @Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 18:30:36 (EST)
ABDUL AZIZ MURTADD LAA'NAT ON YOU and ON YOUR MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB You are asking Brother Rashid about the Existance of Brother Rumy and Qadiani Buster.? Let Me tell you (MIRZA KA LONDA) that QADIANI BUSTER and RUMY are MORE REAL than Your FATHER. YOU can DOUBT about YOUR FATHER (That Who Was That Punk), but Q.B and RUMY are the REAL CREATION of ALLAH (SWT).
Qadiani Buster <Q.B@ Shity Mirza.Con>
PK - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 18:24:35 (EST)
Abdulaziz Qadiani | Is Qadianism gives you permission to ruin the all work of Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani (La'anat of Allah upon him) just to win the table. Your claim is that Mirza Kazib was not against the Jehad in Islam but Mirza Kazib wrote in his book "Tiryaq al Qulub" at page 335 that " The third clock which will be installed in some part of the wall of the minaret, signifies that people should realise their time, that the time for the opening of the doors of the heavens had arrived. From now on there shall be no terrestrial Jehad and wars shall cease, as has been mentioned earlier in the traditions that when the Messiah will come, wars for the sake of religion shall be declared prohibited. From now on whosoever shall raise the sword for the sake of religion and slay the infidels by proclaiming himself to be aGhazi, he will be disobedient rebel of God and His prophet."
Rumy <na>
PK - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 16:00:49 (EST)
Shame on you Dr. Rashid for not posting my response to Ghulam Ali. Probably you like the Buster's ful messages and illiterate Rumy's baseless repititions. Are the two of them products of your imagination or real humans? Dear readers, for a well documented response to questions such as British and Ahmadiyyat, Khatamannabiyyeen, and Jehad, please visit the web site .alislam.org. You will find how deceitful are the writings of these Rumys, Rashids, and Ghula Alis.
Abdul Aziz <n.o>
USA - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 09:17:49 (EST)
QADIANISM AN INDEPENDENT RELIGION PART II. These Qadianis who believe that Mirza Kazib Ghulam A Qadiani (La'anat of Allah be upon him and his all family) was a prophet, they also believe that his (Mirza's) companions were also of same level as esteemed companions of Hazarat Muhammad (Peace and bless of Allah be upon him and his family). Sometimes they claim superiority of Mirza's companions upon Muslim Sa'ahaba (companions of Hazarat Muhammad SAW) . In the same manner, they regard the grave of the Mirza to be similar to the resting- place of the Holy Messenger Hazarat Muhammad SAW and green dome of the MASJID-E-NABVI (Mosque of Holy messenger Hazarat Muhammad SAW in Medina, Arab). Even Qadiani pilgrimage is different from Muslim's HAJJ (Pilgrimage). They do go Qadian for HAJJ. And it's a essential part of their HAJJ. Mirza Kazib Ghulam (La'anat of Allah be upon him and his family) said "THE LAND OF QADIAN IS NOW A PLACE OF VENERATION. IT IS LIKE THE SANCTIFIED LAND BY THE RUSH OF PEOPLE" (Durrr-e-Thamin p 52). Therefore it is very cleared that Qadianism is a different and independent reliogion but problem is this that they base on total lies. Therefore they want to attach a Muslim name with them to hide their lies. Qadianiat is a curse of Allah on accursed family of Mirza Kazib Ghulam of Qadian and his followers. Wassalam.
RUMY <na>
pk - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 03:43:07 (EST)
WELL DONE RASHID BROTHER.
SOBIA <na@net.com>
USA - Friday, January 23, 1998 at 03:39:17 (EST)
ANUS QADIANI Looks like that your foolish Parents (If you have any) named you after "MIRZA GHULAM KAZIB'S " ANUS. That's why you are playing and acting like "ANUS". Or YOU are acting like "LONDA" of MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB. ANUS Murtadd, By the way does Mirza Tahir Kazib pay you for your services? You Know what I mean. Just whisper it.
Qadiani Buster <Qaiani ANUS BUSTER@Shitty Mirza.con>
PK - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 22:40:54 (EST)
Attn QADIANIS (MURTADDS) and CHIEF MURTADD (MIRZA TAHIR) The Mischievous Ploy of Qadianis Mustafa Hashim The mischievous mission of the Qadianis' movement should be exposed for what it is - a deliberateattempt to target Muslim youth and the downtrodden. To the former, literatures are distributedhoping to win over the juvenile minds, and the latter, are lured with cash and the kind. In both thesemission, they have been able to bank upon Zionist elements, both united by a marriage ofconvenience. How did it all start? The origin of the Ahmadiya sect goes back to the days of the British rule in India, when the Britishcolonial power sought to counter the notion of Jihad among Muslims. Their assigning prophethood toMirza Ghulam Ahmad was part of a grand design to scuttle Muslim solidarity on the basis of jihad,which is a basic tenet of Islam. To this end, they found a willing tool in Ghulam Ahmad who launcheda movement in the north Indian town of Qadian. It later split into two factions, one of which is afterthe founder, hence the name Ahmadiya. Both, however, share the same deviant beliefs which ascribethe status of prophethood to their man. The Holy Qur'an makes it clear that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is the last in the line of prophets. This is stated clearly in the verse 40 of surah 33, entitled "Al- Ahzab" or the "Confederates." In which Allah describes Muhammad as "God's messenger andthe last of all prophets." The Ahmadis and the Qadianis call themselves Muslims, claiming that their movement heralds thesecond mission of the message of Islam and their man, Ghulam Ahmad, is God's messenger. They try to reconcile this with the above quoted Qur'anic verse by saying that the Arabic word"last" in the foregoing verse means "seal" which means Muhammad serves as a seal whichendorses every new message. This twisted logic, by a person who has tried to justify his false claimon the basis of his half baked knowledge, shows a wilful attempt to misinterpret the relevant verse.This Arabic verse does have a connotation of a "seal" but in the sense of putting an end tosomething, or bringing it to a completeness that admits of no additions. Besides, he has used indecent language against the grandmother of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and also insulted the Holy Prophetand his Companions. No Muslim can tolerate such blasphemy. Mirza has intentionally attributed tohimself the verses of the Holy Qur'an by giving them his own created meanings with a wilful intentionto mislead others. It is claimed by the Ahmadis in "Al Fazl" of the 17th July, 1922, that "any man can get any highoffice and that he can even go ahead of Muhammad Rasool Allah." (God forbid) On page 163 of "Haqiqatul Wahi" he says "He who does not believe in me is a Kafir." He alsosays "God has revealed to me that one who does not follow me and enter into my fold andremains an opponent shall be deemed as being guilty of rebellion against God, His prophetthus making himself deserving of Hell." He also said "I am the promised Messiah and am the same whom the greatest of prophets hasnamed Nabi Allah (Prophet of God)." Mirza (may God's curse be on him) gave a different concept regarding Jesus Christ (pbuh), which isquite opposed to the well-established beliefs of Muslims and the injunction of Qur'an. Mirza said thatJesus Christ was crucified but did not die on the cross. He came out alive and went to Kasmhir werehe died a natural death. He says that the second advent of Jesus would be fulfilled not by Jesuscoming back in person but by his spirit incarnate in another man and that advent has been fulfilled bythe advent of himself (Mirza). Islam believes that Jesus Christ would come back to follow the Islamic Shariat of Muhammad(pbuh). According to a Hadith the Prophet is reported to have said "Had there been any Nabiafter me, he would have Umar bin Khattab." This hadith clearly rules out any prophethood afterMuhammad. The British were aware of the fact that Islam was a force to reckon with. They therefore, thoughtthat by sabotaging their unity, their subjugation would be easier. The British found in Mirza a handytool to cause disruption among the Muslims. Instances are not wanting to show that Mirza was instrumental in the British plan to sow chaos and disruption among the Muslims. In "Tabligh-e-Risalat" (Vol.7 P10) Mirza says "From my childhood till this age which is about60 years. I have earnestly been trying through speeches and writing to foster and fraternityfor the British Government in the heart of Muslims. I am also trying to discard the idea of'Jihad' against them." In "Shadatul Qur'an'' he says "As I have repeatedly been stressing that Islam has two parts init one, to obey God and the second, to obey the Government which has brought with it peaceand had saved us from the tyrants of the land." In another place he says "I had written a number of books in Urdu, Persian and Arabic toinform the Muslim countries of the world that the Muslims were passing a very happy andcontented life under the suzerainty of the British Rulers." In "Tabligh-e-Risalat" Vol. VI, he says "I cannot spread my faith in Madina, nor in Rome,Syria, Iran or Kabul but only under this Government (British) for whose prosperity I alwayspray." From this it is very clear that Mirza obtained an unfettered licence to cause disruption among theMuslims only to please his masters. He has himself complained in his writing that he was beingdubbed an agent of British Imperialism. The following excerpt from the letter of noted Muslim female author Maryam Jameela to MaulanaAbul Ala Maudoodi throws light on the personality of Mirza "... Mirza Ghulam Ahmad struck me asa man completely lacking in any moral sensitivity and of very mediocre intellectual stature. There isno doubt in my mind that he was insane. His vision (or more accurately his hallucinations) assure himthat God in heaven glorifies him and invests him with the highest decorations. The Jesus born is noneelse than Mirza himself. Isn't that proof he was a madman? I don't know why his relatives failed torecognize that and committed him to the asylum. If Mirza Ghulam had been locked up in a mentalhospital, he would have had no opportunity to spread his mischief. If he were alive today, hisdelusions of grandeur and persecution would have quickly been diagnosed by the medical world asschizophrenic - paranoid type. Every line of his writings indicate this malady. In the end he sees in a vision that he has in fact become God Almighty and denounced those whowho refused to attest to the truth of his mission as "bas....ds." But I think that his books, particularly"Haqiqat ul Wahy" "(The Truth About Revelation)," would be of great interest to students ofpsychology. It should be regarded as a valuable document on schizophrenia which provides theprofessionals with first-hand knowledge of how a paranoid mind works. Viewed in this light, anobjective study of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's books could help scientific research in mental diseases."
Ghulam Ali <None>
UK - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 18:46:05 (EST)
Abdul Aziz Murtadd (MIRZA KA LONDA) You came out of your HOLE? I thought you are still chained up along with MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB (During Ramadan). AbdulAziz Murtadd You are talking about Mubahala? Why is your MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB afraid to come out ? and show his "MANHOOS" face ? Does HE (MIRZA TAHIR KAZIB) has inferiority complex? Just Like HIS GRANDPA (The Grand Liar Mirza Ghulam Kazib)? Looks like that He (Mirza Tahir Kazib) is hiding with his tail Tucked into his ASS. Any How, dont worry. That is QADIANI WAY. QADIANIS are creating "FITNAH" in the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan (from where all the MURTADDS like you and Your MIRZA TAHIR MURTADD ran away as fugitives)
Qadiani Buster <Qadiani Buster@Shitty Mirza.Con>
PK - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 18:17:57 (EST)
Dr. Rashid (1). You say you have accepted Mubahla. Give me a break. You dare not do it. You have ifs and buts. You say I want to come to London, I want face to face. If you are brave then why not simply say, "I accept the Mubahla against Jamaat Ahmadiyya". Forget about place or faces. Make it easy on every body. Let God decide it. (2). You say you are the biggest enemy of Ahmadiyyat. Please substitute 'cheapest' for the 'biggest'. The type of articles you have posted on your site is an ample proof of what I say. (3). You say Mirza Tahir Ahmadi is spreading sectarian violence in Pakistan. Please go and tell it to Maulana Qasmi of the Sipah e Sahaba. He has publicly stated the causes of sectarian violence in Pakista. Who is lying? You or he? Who has the inside information? Go and give it the police and the political leaders of Pakistan who are busy rounding up your type of mullahs. (4). Lastly I say fear God. Don't make lies a source of income for yourself. All the money will be left behind.
Abdul Aziz <yo have it>
USA - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 17:42:05 (EST)
Guestbook updated. Wishing you all the very best of Ramadan and EID ul FITR|
Mani Syed <syedma@interlog.com>
CA - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 04:53:14 (EST)