From: Jammu Press <jammupress@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: BBC FILM: Jesus is buried in Kashmir.
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 09:12:15 -0700 (PDT)
Assalamo Alaikum, .......... Just for your information, I am no longer a member of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam.

I did not join the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement. Nor am I affiliated with any branch of the sunni or shia or any other branch of the Muslim world.

I had been an Ahmadi for 27 years. But on May 25 at 10:00 p.m. I embraced the Baha'i Faith, due to the presence of Allah I felt when visiting the Baha'i Temple in Wilmette, Illinois.

Since then, I have read many of the works of Bahaullah, Allah's Messenger for this day. I had long ago read the anti-Baha'i literature published by both branches of the Ahmadiyya community. After reading the literature of the Baha'i Faith, I have discovered that the criticisms against the Baha'i Faith that are launched by Ahmadis, Sunnis and Shias are false.

The Baha'i Faith does not argue about religion. The Baha'i Faith focuses on the truth of all religions. In the Baha'i Faith, the issue of whether or not Jesus died on the cross is absolutely meaningless. The most important thing is that Jesus was a Messenger of God. The most important thing is his teachings.

It doesn't matter whether he died in Kashmir or on the cross.

The reason I am telling you this [although I do appreciate your informing me of the BBC program] is to be honest with you. Every Ahmadi who has happened to contact me since May 25 when I accepted the Baha'i Faith, I have openly told them that I am no longer an Ahmadi. I did not want you to be under any misconceptions.

During the time I spent, years back, watch you and others [well, and myself also] argue about religion, I began to see how absolutely ugly all of us where. We all relished the idea of fighting. And, at times, it would often become so ugly as to remove from us our supposed identity as "Muslim." Were were not Muslim. Were were ugly people fighting about religion.

In the Holy Qur'an [which the Baha'i Faith embraces as a true Book of Allah], Allah forbids the establishment of sects. That is another reason why Ieft the Ahmadiyya Community, and why I would never join any other sect of Islam.

If you would attempt to argue and debate with me about Baha'i, you would find no argument. There are some Baha'is, on the web, as I have discovered, who engage in debate. Bahaullah forbade that, although we are allowed to explain and even defend the Faith. But never to argue and bicker and fight.

What about my website? This poses a very difficult question for me. I am trying to either give the website away to someone, or sell the domain name. I still have book stock. But, with each book that someone orders, I include a note explaining that I no longer see the issue of Jesus in India as fundamental to spirituality or religion.

Once the book stock runs out, I will be finished totally with this issue. But, knowing me, there is also a chance that one day I'll simply delete the website, the bookstore and everything, and go on with my life.

You are a very determined individual. I realize that, having read your forum messages over the years. But, as a last effort, I would advise you to return to the purity of your religion, and to avoid the sectarian battles and hatreds that exist between both branches of the Ahmadiyya family.

I have spent a good number of hours with Baha'i people. And not once--not once--has there ever been a single debate about what religion is not.

The Baha'is do what Qur'an says to do: truly recognize the truth of all the revealed religions. At the Mashriqul Adkar, the Baha'i Temple, Baha'is sincerely read from the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedas, the works of Bahaullah and the Bab. And nobody ever points fingers any other religion. Because the Baha'is focus on the central theme of religion, rather than poking at differences.

Baha'is do not stick their chests out proclaiming to be "the one true religion." Baha'is do not make statements that "other religions are false," or "other sects are false," or "We are the one true sect."

The Baha'i Faith does not claim to be the one true sect. It claims to be the last Revelation from Allah, all previous Revelations being episodes in the spiritual history of humanity. We embrace all episodes, and we condemn no religion and no sect.

I wish you the best, .............., in your religious, spiritual and secular life.
 

*This email has been edited by Admin*

A FORMER QADIANI AFTER LEAVING QADIANI CULT CAN NOT FIND COURAGE TO LIE ANYMORE ABOUT WORLD QADIANI POPULATION.
 

Mr. Abubakr Ben Ishmael Salahuddin is author of 'Saving the Savior'. He is also webmaster of site www.tombofjesus.com and is known as 'TombMaster'. Mr. Abubakr is black American and lives in Chicago, USA.

Mr. Abubakr has been STALWART and WARRIOR of Qadianis, especially on the internet. His website www.tombofjesus.com has been very popular among qadianis, and they have propagated it in last few years. Qadianis have been very proud of Abubakr. Many qadianis boasted about book authored by Abubakr and bought and distributed it.

On May 27, 2003 at 10:00 PM Mr. Abubakr after 27 years of service to Qadiani Faith and Qadiani Khalifas has quit Qadaini Organization and joined Bahai faith and has become follower of Bahaullah. For details please see the breaking news section on this website.

Mr. Abubakr published his book ‘Saving the Savior’ in year 2001. Author planned to publish second edition in 2 or 3 years, with UPDATED text/ material in it as he was constantly in search of more evidences/ proofs etc. But now he has abandoned his plans, as for him the basic qadiani mission of telling the world that Jesus (as) is buried in Kashmir, India is NOT important anymore. As a matter of fact he has even condemned his former Qadiani faith.

In his book ‘Saving the Savior’ Mr. Abubakr writes on page 150:
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To this day the followers [i.e. Qadianis] of [Hazrat Mirza] Ghulam Ahmad, who now claim to have an international membership of some 70,000,000 (SEVENTY MILLION) [Please note these are the old figures. As now Qadianis and their Khalifa claims that membership is over 200 Million] have become the number-one target of the orthodoxy in Islam, with the Bahais being not even in the running any longer [This statement by the author gives a highly inflated figures about Qadianis number and called Bahais as extinct].........The Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam is currently headquartered in England, its current leader.......... . His name is Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad......... .
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Now when Mr. Abubakr has renounced Qadiani Cult Faith and has joined Bahai Faith he was asked few questions in e-mail. He gave the following reply [Please note ‘jammupress@yahoo.com’ is his e-mail address. As he is trying to sell the remaining stock of his book, and wants to recover his investment. This is still his e-mail account]:
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Jammu Press <jammupress@yahoo.com>
Re: BBC FILM: Jesus is buried in Kashmir.
Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:35:54 -0700 (PDT)

As regards the numbers of Ahmadis as compared to Baha'is, what is the point?

I'm glad to be out of that "religion." [Qadiani Branch of Ahmadiyya Movement] Such a religion is, for me, a total waste of time.

In short, the issue of whatever I quoted about numbers is meaningless.

Abubakr
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In his above e-mail reply Mr. Abubakr has tried to dodge the question, but it is obvious from his reply that he does NOT believe in the Qadianis world population that he himself published in his book in year 2001.

Anyhow, in another e-mail to Mr. Abubakr the question about Qadiani population was repeated to him. Following is the question:
(1) You in your book Saving the Savior, wrote that Qadiani's population in the world is over 70 MILLION. And now you say it is not important and worth discussing. Does it mean you LIED in your book??

Unfortunately, Mr. Abubakr has not answered it yet.

One thing is clear, when Qadianis leave following of their cult leader i.e. Qadiani Khalifas, they develop honesty to some level and become shy of openly and clearly lying.